What is wrong with my CW?!?

kitana25pt

Sooo my CW is driving me crazy. ( First sorry for my grammar english is not my mother language)
Here is the problem... I can't make any damage at strongholds dragons.... I have 15.399Power 11682 Critical Strike ( i also have Eye Of STorm that give me every 20 sec 100% critical strike) and 11709 sooo with this status i should be able to make some damage right? But i barely can do any damage even at epic dungeons bosses... What is wrong with it? What should a changed?

mrimsogood

kitana25pt said:

Sooo my CW is driving me crazy. ( First sorry for my grammar english is not my mother language)
Here is the problem... I can't make any damage at strongholds dragons.... I have 15.399Power 11682 Critical Strike ( i also have Eye Of STorm that give me every 20 sec 100% critical strike) and 11709 sooo with this status i should be able to make some damage right? But i barely can do any damage even at epic dungeons bosses... What is wrong with it? What should a changed?

11709 what?

kitana25pt

Armor Penetration

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kitana25pt

Eye of the storm is a paragon power not a feat... I also use storm spell, tried with chilling presence and didnt notice any diference. I have the feat icy veins too but only 3... Ok now i changed a boon from guild now i have 17.399 power, same critical and 8 709 armor penetration. Im gonna try a dungeon using chilling instead of eye. Ty for your answer.

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kitana25pt

Well i tried some dungeos and still the same

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kitana25pt

My artifacts all mytic my gear is dragonflight and for now my gems are lvl 10, im working hard to get better but make me a bit sad when i dont see any decent damage at boss dungeos or dragon. I should be able to make some damage and that is not happening right now. I am a 3.3k gear im tired looking for some builts to make hight damage i tried alot of them and i dont see nothing get better.

indylol

Kill empowereds. your damage isn't all that matters on the final scoreboard in SH Dragons.

kitana25pt

Yea i dont care much about that cuz i normally im 2 and without gwf 1 on the scoreboard at dungeons and top 3 most of the time at SH dragons just by killing empowereds, i dont wanna be better than everyone. The only thing im trying understand is if i have power( 18569) critical 12070 and enough armor penetration why i cant make damage at boss dungeos or dragons

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kitana25pt

Thank you once again

kitana25pt

After reading my build is almost like the built he advice for ss thaum path... the good pic is from his built the bad is from mine... do you think is gonna make a big diference?

thefabricant

If you need any help just ask, im happy to

kitana25pt

Thank you, i will if anything come up. My built have some dif from what i saw at your post, going to try yours to see if helps make more damage
Good job making a such big cw built

stuckthrottle

I know this is a week old, but I would like to know if you saw improvements. BTW, if possible, I'd also like to see pics of your feats, stats, and know what your weapon enchantment is.

kitana25pt

Hi right now i see a little not much improvements i have about 19685 Power, 12309 Critical S and 7923 ArmP all my offense slots are azure and defense some are dark and radiante my weapon enchant are greater vorpal and working to level up... my feats are the same as the build is mention here above from defiantone99(look at Thaumaturge one is like mine)

stuckthrottle

What is your damage when you do run Stronghold Dragons without killing empowereds. I know it fluctuates depending on how much you die and whether you can keep your buffs and debuffs rocking, but I'd like to know a round a bout number.

7923 arm pen still seems a little high. What's that put your resistance ignored at? Also, your companions can play a big role in your dps. As with what defiantone99 said, you should be running the Lostmauth Set. If your artifacts are mythic, what are they? Sorry for all of the questions.

kitana25pt

Hmmm no problem if you have ideas to help me i don't mind at all
I'm using Lostmauth Set, yea right now im trying lowering ArmP but i have a beak is a bit hard, i'm waiting for Double Refinement to change the weapons artifacts that would make me go to 62% ArmP... I don't remember how much damage I make for killing only dragons at SH but is not much is a little damage that's why i started this post to see why this is happening. Im using Lostmauth's Horn, Sigil of Controller, Sigil of devoted and Wheel of elements im not using Lantern of revelations cuz gonna level up my ArmP and i need lowering it... About companions im using Cantankerous Mage(rare), Galeb Duhr(Epic), Ioun Stone of Allure(rare), Fire and Air Archon(epic).
Resistance Ignored is 70.9%

Ps: Sometimes i think my Cw is glitched i use Ice Knife at bosses spider and only make about 25k damage and i have level 4, i don't know why this is happening when i choose to use a daily 1 attempt i see the knife going though boss but no damage made and the bar daily is full, sometimes takes 3 tries to make dailies make some damage and isn't the damage at should be.

spiritualxbl

kitana25pt said:

Hmmm no problem if you have ideas to help me i don't mind at all
I'm using Lostmauth Set, yea right now im trying lowering ArmP but i have a beak is a bit hard, i'm waiting for Double Refinement to change the weapons artifacts that would make me go to 62% ArmP... I don't remember how much damage I make for killing only dragons at SH but is not much is a little damage that's why i started this post to see why this is happening. Im using Lostmauth's Horn, Sigil of Controller, Sigil of devoted and Wheel of elements im not using Lantern of revelations cuz gonna level up my ArmP and i need lowering it... About companions im using Cantankerous Mage(rare), Galeb Duhr(Epic), Ioun Stone of Allure(rare), Fire and Air Archon(epic).
Resistance Ignored is 70.9%

Ps: Sometimes i think my Cw is glitched i use Ice Knife at bosses spider and only make about 25k damage and i have level 4, i don't know why this is happening when i choose to use a daily 1 attempt i see the knife going though boss but no damage made and the bar daily is full, sometimes takes 3 tries to make dailies make some damage and isn't the damage at should be.

Replace the Galeb Duhr, firstly. Also, I'm assuming you're using the Ioun Stone as a summoned companion? That's a big no-no if you're trying to compete for leaderboard spots. I don't know what your budget is, but summoned companions with bonding stones are infinitely better for CWs. I get as much as 30k power and 15k crit bonuses when my bondings over-proc. It's an expensive endeavor, but a necessity for DPS CW's, unfortunately. Some might also argue against the Cantankerous Mage, but I use one also. The difference is quite noticeable for freezing purposes. Longer freezes=more DPS from Chilling Presence.

The last bit you described sounds like lag. I get spurts where it doesn't register my dailies and I die out of nowhere because the lag prevented me from seeing the red circle under my feet. It's not often, but frequent enough to notice.

Also, you don't need the Sigil of the Devoted AND the Wheel of Elements. Pick one and move on.

stuckthrottle

What spirit said.

I am one of those that would argue against the Mage, but that's a small point. I should point out that I'm a CW, but don't consider myself an awesome dps. We kind of need a baseline for you. How much damage you are actually doing. I usually place great on paingiver, but at SH Dragons and T2 Dungeon bosses, I don't do squat.

So aside from what other have said, what exactly is your build? Are you a renegade with spell twisting? A Thaum with icy veins? Where are your feat points put in to? Also, I recommend trying for the Twisted Set. Keeping the 24 stacks of Bloodlust is cake for a CW and it's a nice power boost.

mrimsogood

If you can, record yourself doing a dungeon

kitana25pt

spiritualxbl said:

kitana25pt said:

Hmmm no problem if you have ideas to help me i don't mind at all
I'm using Lostmauth Set, yea right now im trying lowering ArmP but i have a beak is a bit hard, i'm waiting for Double Refinement to change the weapons artifacts that would make me go to 62% ArmP... I don't remember how much damage I make for killing only dragons at SH but is not much is a little damage that's why i started this post to see why this is happening. Im using Lostmauth's Horn, Sigil of Controller, Sigil of devoted and Wheel of elements im not using Lantern of revelations cuz gonna level up my ArmP and i need lowering it... About companions im using Cantankerous Mage(rare), Galeb Duhr(Epic), Ioun Stone of Allure(rare), Fire and Air Archon(epic).
Resistance Ignored is 70.9%

Ps: Sometimes i think my Cw is glitched i use Ice Knife at bosses spider and only make about 25k damage and i have level 4, i don't know why this is happening when i choose to use a daily 1 attempt i see the knife going though boss but no damage made and the bar daily is full, sometimes takes 3 tries to make dailies make some damage and isn't the damage at should be.

Replace the Galeb Duhr, firstly. Also, I'm assuming you're using the Ioun Stone as a summoned companion? That's a big no-no if you're trying to compete for leaderboard spots. I don't know what your budget is, but summoned companions with bonding stones are infinitely better for CWs. I get as much as 30k power and 15k crit bonuses when my bondings over-proc. It's an expensive endeavor, but a necessity for DPS CW's, unfortunately. Some might also argue against the Cantankerous Mage, but I use one also. The difference is quite noticeable for freezing purposes. Longer freezes=more DPS from Chilling Presence.

The last bit you described sounds like lag. I get spurts where it doesn't register my dailies and I die out of nowhere because the lag prevented me from seeing the red circle under my feet. It's not often, but frequent enough to notice.

Also, you don't need the Sigil of the Devoted AND the Wheel of Elements. Pick one and move on.

Can you explain why Augment is worse? I get 100% status from him and if i change to a companion with bondings im only gonna get some % from his status not 100% like from a Augment right? I have some Ad Tell me what do you think i should be using?

About the lag, i don't think it is lag, i tried a few times alone with only 1mob and it happen too, i saw the animations about 3 diferent times only the 3 time did damage and a low one and i didn't make more attacks to see if was lag or not.

kitana25pt

stuckthrottle said:

What spirit said.



I am one of those that would argue against the Mage, but that's a small point. I should point out that I'm a CW, but don't consider myself an awesome dps. We kind of need a baseline for you. How much damage you are actually doing. I usually place great on paingiver, but at SH Dragons and T2 Dungeon bosses, I don't do squat.



So aside from what other have said, what exactly is your build? Are you a renegade with spell twisting? A Thaum with icy veins? Where are your feat points put in to? Also, I recommend trying for the Twisted Set. Keeping the 24 stacks of Bloodlust is cake for a CW and it's a nice power boost.

Yea im trying to get Twisted Set but no lucky at epic Demo people just give up, is hard to get what i need to buy it... i only play at night i have really bad luck with the epic demo groups

My Feats...http://s12.postimg.org/5zjgtb38t/IMG_20160323_014339.jpg

mrimsogood

kitana25pt said:

spiritualxbl said:

kitana25pt said:

Hmmm no problem if you have ideas to help me i don't mind at all
I'm using Lostmauth Set, yea right now im trying lowering ArmP but i have a beak is a bit hard, i'm waiting for Double Refinement to change the weapons artifacts that would make me go to 62% ArmP... I don't remember how much damage I make for killing only dragons at SH but is not much is a little damage that's why i started this post to see why this is happening. Im using Lostmauth's Horn, Sigil of Controller, Sigil of devoted and Wheel of elements im not using Lantern of revelations cuz gonna level up my ArmP and i need lowering it... About companions im using Cantankerous Mage(rare), Galeb Duhr(Epic), Ioun Stone of Allure(rare), Fire and Air Archon(epic).
Resistance Ignored is 70.9%

Ps: Sometimes i think my Cw is glitched i use Ice Knife at bosses spider and only make about 25k damage and i have level 4, i don't know why this is happening when i choose to use a daily 1 attempt i see the knife going though boss but no damage made and the bar daily is full, sometimes takes 3 tries to make dailies make some damage and isn't the damage at should be.

Replace the Galeb Duhr, firstly. Also, I'm assuming you're using the Ioun Stone as a summoned companion? That's a big no-no if you're trying to compete for leaderboard spots. I don't know what your budget is, but summoned companions with bonding stones are infinitely better for CWs. I get as much as 30k power and 15k crit bonuses when my bondings over-proc. It's an expensive endeavor, but a necessity for DPS CW's, unfortunately. Some might also argue against the Cantankerous Mage, but I use one also. The difference is quite noticeable for freezing purposes. Longer freezes=more DPS from Chilling Presence.

The last bit you described sounds like lag. I get spurts where it doesn't register my dailies and I die out of nowhere because the lag prevented me from seeing the red circle under my feet. It's not often, but frequent enough to notice.

Also, you don't need the Sigil of the Devoted AND the Wheel of Elements. Pick one and move on.

Can you explain why Augment is worse? I get 100% status from him and if i change to a companion with bondings im only gonna get some % from his status not 100% like from a Augment right? I have some Ad Tell me what do you think i should be using?

About the lag, i don't think it is lag, i tried a few times alone with only 1mob and it happen too, i saw the animations about 3 diferent times only the 3 time did damage and a low one and i didn't make more attacks to see if was lag or not.

Because bonding stones can stack, augmented pets can't
It's easy to hit over 100% with 3 bonding stones plus if your companion can use 1 or 2 underdark rings

katamaster81899

My feats are pretty similar to yours, and last SH dragonflight, according to ACT, I did 54m dmg to one dragon in six minutes (Dragons have 80m HP total). Your feats are fine, I can tell you that much. Now, I will note that I had a Bubble Pally and Debuff DC with me, and there were two other mediocre DPSes with me that probably added some debuffs as well. Regardless, CW has the potential to solo a dragon, with the right build.

And if you want to see what I'm using, it's in my signature, click on the big letters! I believe that run I was using my normal PVE rotation, except I swapped steal time for RoE.

So basically, CoI in mastery, Disintegrate, RoE, Icy Terrain.

kitana25pt

mrimsogood said:

kitana25pt said:

spiritualxbl said:

kitana25pt said:

Hmmm no problem if you have ideas to help me i don't mind at all
I'm using Lostmauth Set, yea right now im trying lowering ArmP but i have a beak is a bit hard, i'm waiting for Double Refinement to change the weapons artifacts that would make me go to 62% ArmP... I don't remember how much damage I make for killing only dragons at SH but is not much is a little damage that's why i started this post to see why this is happening. Im using Lostmauth's Horn, Sigil of Controller, Sigil of devoted and Wheel of elements im not using Lantern of revelations cuz gonna level up my ArmP and i need lowering it... About companions im using Cantankerous Mage(rare), Galeb Duhr(Epic), Ioun Stone of Allure(rare), Fire and Air Archon(epic).
Resistance Ignored is 70.9%

Ps: Sometimes i think my Cw is glitched i use Ice Knife at bosses spider and only make about 25k damage and i have level 4, i don't know why this is happening when i choose to use a daily 1 attempt i see the knife going though boss but no damage made and the bar daily is full, sometimes takes 3 tries to make dailies make some damage and isn't the damage at should be.

Replace the Galeb Duhr, firstly. Also, I'm assuming you're using the Ioun Stone as a summoned companion? That's a big no-no if you're trying to compete for leaderboard spots. I don't know what your budget is, but summoned companions with bonding stones are infinitely better for CWs. I get as much as 30k power and 15k crit bonuses when my bondings over-proc. It's an expensive endeavor, but a necessity for DPS CW's, unfortunately. Some might also argue against the Cantankerous Mage, but I use one also. The difference is quite noticeable for freezing purposes. Longer freezes=more DPS from Chilling Presence.

The last bit you described sounds like lag. I get spurts where it doesn't register my dailies and I die out of nowhere because the lag prevented me from seeing the red circle under my feet. It's not often, but frequent enough to notice.

Also, you don't need the Sigil of the Devoted AND the Wheel of Elements. Pick one and move on.

Can you explain why Augment is worse? I get 100% status from him and if i change to a companion with bondings im only gonna get some % from his status not 100% like from a Augment right? I have some Ad Tell me what do you think i should be using?

About the lag, i don't think it is lag, i tried a few times alone with only 1mob and it happen too, i saw the animations about 3 diferent times only the 3 time did damage and a low one and i didn't make more attacks to see if was lag or not.

Because bonding stones can stack, augmented pets can't
It's easy to hit over 100% with 3 bonding stones plus if your companion can use 1 or 2 underdark rings

hmmm got it thank you

kitana25pt

katamaster81899 said:

My feats are pretty similar to yours, and last SH dragonflight, according to ACT, I did 54m dmg to one dragon in six minutes (Dragons have 80m HP total). Your feats are fine, I can tell you that much. Now, I will note that I had a Bubble Pally and Debuff DC with me, and there were two other mediocre DPSes with me that probably added some debuffs as well. Regardless, CW has the potential to solo a dragon, with the right build.

And if you want to see what I'm using, it's in my signature, click on the big letters! I believe that run I was using my normal PVE rotation, except I swapped steal time for RoE.

So basically, CoI in mastery, Disintegrate, RoE, Icy Terrain.

When i play alone i use Sudden Storm in mastery then Icy Terrain, still time and Disintegrate.

For dungeons i use the same as you...next time SH Dragon im only gonna hit the dragon to see my damage

stuckthrottle

58 million to a SH Dragon? I hope I read that wrong, because that means I SUUUUUUUCK lol. I don't think I've ever seen anyone do 1 million to a SH dragon. My puny average is usually between 100K to 200K without killing empowereds. Maybe that's a PC thing though.

About the Bonding stones: I ran with an Augment until about two days ago. Just started with a bonding companion. For it to be worth more than an augment, you need to make sure you are using at least Greater Bonding stones. Also using a companion that can proc them fast. Katamasters "A Thaumaturge's Time To Shine" guide explains which companions work well.

Side Note about "lag": Don't worry about that Kitana. I see it all the time. I'll launch Ice Knife or something and hear it go off three times before I see anything. I've grown so used to it that I hit every button now three times just to be sure the spells go off.

kitana25pt

Ahah me too i really really suck i did a SH just now my damage was 213156, when i kill empowereds i make more , i make about 580k...my best at SH was 720k off course killing dragon +empowereds ... only 1 time i saw someone making 1m at SH dragon.