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Starting a new blog

oliboypholiboyph Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 627 Arc User
in The Guard Barracks
Check it out at nwobarthos.com/

Will be working on more content of the next few days. I'll be posting more positioning guides and a lowbie guide.
"As the good archmage often admonishes me, I ought not to let my mind wander, as it's too small to go off by itself." -Danilo Thann[/quote]

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  • scathiasscathias Member Posts: 1,174 Arc User
    On your tactician build, why do you advocate for running with a OP protector? The whole point of running a SM tactician build is that you run KV as your main tanking skill allowing you to build up massive AP = spamming dailies = very constant immunity. Not to mention that Villians Menace gives you a stackable DR buff that you can pass along to your group via ITF (you need to use VM first before you cast ITF or they miss out on the extra 20% DR).

    If you run with a OP you just lost a lot of your AP generation and you have no cause to run steel defense since you are just a off tank now with 3 buffs. You deprived your group of a DPS slot essentially by taking a OP to do the job you could have done as well as buffing.

    On your protector build you list as a disadvantage that it doesn't have any AP charging buffs, but since you use ITF in that build, which increases AP gain, it does have one. Or are you drawing a line between something like ITF and the tactician capstone? (which is fine, just not clear from what you wrote).

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  • oliboypholiboyph Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 627 Arc User
    edited January 2016
    @scathias you are right, I should have indicated the AP gain as a comparison to tactician.

    I recommend running tactician GF with an OP (if you can) because it allows you to focus on buffing and debuffing. Most people will think that you need as many dps classes in the party as you can fit, but in fact it is much better to have all 3 utility classes in a party. Leaving tanking to OP, having GF concentrating on buffs, and a DC to debuff and further improve AP recharging is extremely potent even if you have just 2 DPS in our party. I plan to run a test on martial mastery, if it still procs even though damage is being transferred to OP, only think I can say for sure is that you still recharge your AP taking hits, even when you are receiving 0 damage i.e. when steel defense is up.

    But still I should probably run another edit to say that I recommend it but it is not necessary.

    BTW I have to check on that VM adding to ITF. As far as I know only DR from defense and AC is counted when using ITF. External buffs and powers that add to DR instead of defense do not improve ITF's damage buff.
    "As the good archmage often admonishes me, I ought not to let my mind wander, as it's too small to go off by itself." -Danilo Thann[/quote]
  • scathiasscathias Member Posts: 1,174 Arc User
    I have tested and confirmed that hallowed ground, astral shield, and VM all add to ITF. these sources of DR need to be cast first before ITF though or their bonus will not transfer through ITF. Testing it yourself though is a good idea :)
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  • oliboypholiboyph Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 627 Arc User
    scathias said:

    I have tested and confirmed that hallowed ground, astral shield, and VM all add to ITF. these sources of DR need to be cast first before ITF though or their bonus will not transfer through ITF. Testing it yourself though is a good idea :)

    This is exactly why i posted this here. I appreciate the info.
    "As the good archmage often admonishes me, I ought not to let my mind wander, as it's too small to go off by itself." -Danilo Thann[/quote]
  • blindfury11blindfury11 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited January 2016
    scathias said:

    Not to mention that Villians Menace gives you a stackable DR buff that you can pass along to your group via ITF (you need to use VM first before you cast ITF or they miss out on the extra 20% DR).

    This does not work. VM or any other GF self DR buff does not change the dmg buff from ITF. I have tested this with and without ACT. Don't test on yourself since VM will boost your dmg in the first place, you need another party member to test it.

    DC Buff on the other hand are delicious.
  • oliboypholiboyph Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 627 Arc User
    blindfury11 said:

    scathias said:

    Not to mention that Villians Menace gives you a stackable DR buff that you can pass along to your group via ITF (you need to use VM first before you cast ITF or they miss out on the extra 20% DR).

    This does not work. VM or any other GF self DR buff does not change the dmg buff from ITF. I have tested this with and without ACT. Don't test on yourself since VM will boost your dmg in the first place, you need another party member to test it.

    DC Buff on the other hand are delicious.
    I just tested VM on party, and yes you are right it doesn't work, well at least not anymore if ever did in the past. I'm also gonna try out DC debuffs, and every other stuff that are said to improve ITF. Will make a good addition to my blog :)
    "As the good archmage often admonishes me, I ought not to let my mind wander, as it's too small to go off by itself." -Danilo Thann[/quote]
  • shazza53shazza53 Member Posts: 147 Arc User
    Thanks for starting your blog. I hope you put more content in about strategies for specific battles / dungeons / dragons. Good job!
  • scathiasscathias Member Posts: 1,174 Arc User
    blindfury11 said:

    scathias said:

    Not to mention that Villians Menace gives you a stackable DR buff that you can pass along to your group via ITF (you need to use VM first before you cast ITF or they miss out on the extra 20% DR).

    This does not work. VM or any other GF self DR buff does not change the dmg buff from ITF. I have tested this with and without ACT. Don't test on yourself since VM will boost your dmg in the first place, you need another party member to test it.

    DC Buff on the other hand are delicious.
    I tested this with a DC in my party and they were reporting an increase in damage as well when i used VM+ITF, beyond that of what i got when just using ITF. You need to use VM before you cast ITF or it doesn't transfer.
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  • blindfury11blindfury11 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 52 Arc User
    scathias said:



    I tested this with a DC in my party and they were reporting an increase in damage as well when i used VM+ITF, beyond that of what i got when just using ITF. You need to use VM before you cast ITF or it doesn't transfer.

    Yep, I did VM before ITF. I tested with multiple different players, and they all reported to me that there was no dmg increase.

    @oliboyph The OP artifact is also said to work. I haven't tested it yet but I believe the person who has told me since he has done a lot more testing than me. At legendary/Mythical, it will give you 20% DR.
  • oliboypholiboyph Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 627 Arc User
    blindfury11 said:

    scathias said:



    I tested this with a DC in my party and they were reporting an increase in damage as well when i used VM+ITF, beyond that of what i got when just using ITF. You need to use VM before you cast ITF or it doesn't transfer.

    Yep, I did VM before ITF. I tested with multiple different players, and they all reported to me that there was no dmg increase.

    @oliboyph The OP artifact is also said to work. I haven't tested it yet but I believe the person who has told me since he has done a lot more testing than me. At legendary/Mythical, it will give you 20% DR.
    Unfortunately I don't have an OP to test that. I'll try to get some help from the other GF's. Will be doing some tests soon, just waiting for the preview shard to come back up.
    "As the good archmage often admonishes me, I ought not to let my mind wander, as it's too small to go off by itself." -Danilo Thann[/quote]
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