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treesclimbertreesclimber Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,161 Arc User
edited January 2016 in The Militia Barracks
I've seen this(not sure about base feats, lets just assume):http://nwcalc.com/index.html#/gwf?b=2iev:k6rwk5:8dep:5tb7d,1ri0u2i:1000000:1uu50zv:15u0000&h=0&p=smr
with outstanding dps with a T.feytouched and mainly power GWF (26k pow, 8k critic + zhentharim with bondings), coment and give opinion pls.

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  • treesclimbertreesclimber Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,161 Arc User
    metalldjt said:

    I've seen this(not sure about base feats, lets just assume):http://nwcalc.com/index.html#/gwf?b=2iev:k6rwk5:8dep:5tb7d,1ri0u2i:1000000:1uu50zv:15u0000&h=0&p=smr
    with outstanding dps with a T.feytouched and mainly power GWF (26k pow, 8k critic + zhentharim with bondings), coment and give opinion pls.

    your race should be half orc fo extra 5% crit severity
    mighty blade the feat from destroyer paragon seems it doesn't work.
    battle awarness is not bad, if u are goin to use , but i've chosen relentless battle fury.

    while t.feytouch will debuff ur enemy, it wont give you that much damage in pve, a t.vorpal will help you more.
    and Power is great, but gettin 100% crit chance is way better in pve.
    I am half orc, carying perfect vorpal, il 2.5k with jaged dancind blade with p. bondings, the GWF in question was 3,7k outdpsing me 4 TIMES, i asked for some feats the answer was 2 in sentinel, relentless battle fury and battle awareness, so i deducted the others, focussed destroyer, great weapon focus and disciple of war was obvious, not sure about mighty blade or deep gash, staying power is useless if the only 3 encounters sloted deal minimal damage, question is, does deep gash stack? And assuming these stats what should be the expected final stacked critic chance?



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  • treesclimbertreesclimber Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,161 Arc User
    metalldjt said:

    deep gash doesn't stack , it proccs only once.
    as 2 feats in sentinel are for powerful challenge: when the target is marked you deal 15% damag., Also 1 mark gives 20% more damage, a 2nd mark is another 12% more damage.
    and encounters : hidden dagger and IBS are good buffers and damage dealers.

    This build is for battle fury instead IBS, so the staying power would only be for hiden daggers, if it's true that mighty blade doesnt work, deep gash is the best choice even only proccing once at a time, but even so, i've recently changed my build to pve and beeing outdpsed this way by this build was a bit.....unexpected.


  • scathiasscathias Member Posts: 1,174 Arc User
    Might blade only works on aoe encounters/dailies that have the "burst" description tagged onto them.

    Also, marks do not stack anymore according to my testing with ACT on dummies in PE. Daring shout gives a mark that gives you 20% more damage but the mark from threatening rush only gives a 8% damage boost. For the gwf that applies either of those marks daring shout overrides the TR mark. For allies it doesn't matter which mark is applied
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  • treesclimbertreesclimber Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,161 Arc User
    metalldjt said:

    scathias said:

    Might blade only works on aoe encounters/dailies that have the "burst" description tagged onto them.



    Also, marks do not stack anymore according to my testing with ACT on dummies in PE. Daring shout gives a mark that gives you 20% more damage but the mark from threatening rush only gives a 8% damage boost. For the gwf that applies either of those marks daring shout overrides the TR mark. For allies it doesn't matter which mark is applied

    yes they do stack.
    2 marks from daring shout do not stack with eachother.
    i havent tested 2 marks from TR.
    but TR and Daringshout stack with eachother.
    And first mark is 20% , 2nd is 12%, not 8%.
    Also T.Vorpal the 2 % damage resistance debuff, works exactly like a MARK does and it's 2%

    as for the OP:
    you will get outdpsed , cus you are more likely outgeared.
    No doubt im outgeared but the only time i was outdpsed that way way was by one of the "toppest" GWF i've encountered so far, and he was using a Crit build with a vorpal, not power, i mean, if there is such a effective power build that empowers flat damage instead critic it's very weird there arent more GWF using it.

    As for mighty blade, if it only applies to powers with burst on the description, that's pretty much useless, dailies spinning strike is ok, encounters, daring shout, but daring shout doesn't even do damage.
    Is there any restriction to GF TAB mark, OP bane and the powerfull challenge when applied togheter with daring shout or threatening rush or it all just stacks?

  • scathiasscathias Member Posts: 1,174 Arc User
    edited January 2016
    metalldjt said:

    scathias said:

    Might blade only works on aoe encounters/dailies that have the "burst" description tagged onto them.



    Also, marks do not stack anymore according to my testing with ACT on dummies in PE. Daring shout gives a mark that gives you 20% more damage but the mark from threatening rush only gives a 8% damage boost. For the gwf that applies either of those marks daring shout overrides the TR mark. For allies it doesn't matter which mark is applied

    yes they do stack.
    2 marks from daring shout do not stack with eachother.
    i havent tested 2 marks from TR.
    but TR and Daringshout stack with eachother.
    And first mark is 20% , 2nd is 12%, not 8%.
    Also T.Vorpal the 2 % damage resistance debuff, works exactly like a MARK does and it's 2%

    as for the OP:
    you will get outdpsed , cus you are more likely outgeared.
    I'd love for marks to stack. How/when did you last test this if you don't mind my asking?
    I took a IV GWF and tested on dummies in the trade of blades with ACT running. I applied mark, and then hit the dummy until the mark wore off and then looked at the ACT results to see the efficiency of the hit. I applied both the TR mark and DS mark alone and in various combinations.
    Daring Shout mark alone was 120% efficient.
    Threatening Rush mark alone was 108%.
    DS and then TR was 120%
    TR and then DS was 120%

    If the marks from DS and TR stacked then the result should have been 128% efficient if they were additive, or 129.6% if they were multiplicative.

    When I got a swordmaster GF friend to join my party and applied marks the marks to a dummy and then had him hit the dummy ACT said his hits were always 108% efficient, when they should have been 116% for 2 marks.

    When the GF applied his tab mark and the mark from Enforced Threat, those did not stack either, for him or for me, and the GF marks did not stack in combination for either of us.

    If I did something wrong with how I tested this I'd love to know.
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  • treesclimbertreesclimber Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,161 Arc User

    These numbers posted by OP pretty much fit my current PvE build I do sometimes switch to. High power, using T.fey + Zhentharim with bondings as well. So, not sure if it's me you have seen.



    If you are interested in the build, send me an invitation in-game.

    I know you from ingame, your char name is saya, you're very powerfull, but i did not run with you in the run that this post about, it was with a male character. I now know one thing that explains a lot, at the time i was surprised to see bondings r10, r11 and r12, but i found this video and it explains a lot, really a lot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRZ2efX1u10.

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