Umm in their defense... People have been demanding a double rp event for a month or longer before the update... Yeah it's <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>, but they're like yea we gave them what they want... They even had zen and refinement stuff on sale too.
I've so far made a bunch of rad by doing dungeons and skirmishes and salvaging a lot of <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> I found on my journeys. But it's so new this update so I need to give it more time to have a full opinion....
I think there will be an adjustment in the amount of AD in the overall economy but only at the higher end of it.
Us nubs who only made AD from dailies, prayers and a small amount of selling tat from drops will not be affected at all but people making huge amounts pw REFINED due to multiple characters will lose big time.
The effect of this? Lower price for Zen due to reduced buying (that's a win for me) and lower prices on the AH.
People with large amounts of AD tend to spend it on the higher end stuff, artificially inflating the prices at that end of the market - these prices will now come down to more realistic levels.
Yes I do sympathise with people that invested time getting a good AD farm going but please don't try to tell me this is going to ruin the game - it will do the opposite. Yes, people will leave but tbh they were probably close to that point anyway and the $$ generation held them here.
I don't expect those losing income to feel good about it and for them personally this IS a huge negative but you have to look at the macro-economy too.
This imo is a necessary change. Even though it will greatly inconvenience many, I believe 6 months down the line most will appreciate it.
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Zohar De Armadeon: TR
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What exactly is the monstrous grind we call Leadership used for now? A few copper pat on the head? A chest with a T1 runestone? Maybe I can run three 8 hour tasks to get 3 pieces of paper so I can run another rare 8 hour task and make 1 silver and 100 experience.
There should be mandatory drug tests for the developers tomorrow.
I'm honestly gonna farm up leadership cause there is no other profession once I'm done with plates nothing alchemy and jewlcrafting that I wanna do... Plus I wanna save up marks and resonance stones for the next rp event which can happen... Y'all are just negative but I'll take your leadership assets off your hand...
The time it takes to level between 60 and 70 is much, much longer than between 1 and 60 btw...
Not really, no. I've leveled a second character (GWF) just recently. The time it takes is roughly the same give or take. Make sure that you are wearing Azures +6 or better yet +7 in 4/5 slots. And then keep running Vigilance tasks in Drowned Shore until you are 67. After that go ahead and complete the quest line, you'll reach 70 at about the same time. It takes 2-3 hours per level. They say DCs are a different story, can't speak of that.
Well, you realize that if you use those azure's while going from 0-60 you'll be there a lot faster too?
The simple fact is, that going from 0-60 takes 910.2k exp. and from 60 to 70 will require 6 174.6k exp...
And if you compare the relative amount of exp. quests gives you, you'll find that the lvl 60+ quests gives nowhere near the same amount as the earlier quests.
No matter how you spin it, it takes (a lot) more time to go from 60 to 70 under the same conditions...
Wow... i am disgusted, sad, angry, all at the same time. I spent hours raising up leadership to 16 and now i am being cut even before being able to get a decent cut...
I am no chinese farmer or whatever you people talking about, i am an honest player that just did what he could to get a minimum of AD. I never was able to refine more than my 25k daily...
First they remove the skirmish from my queue so i can't do them during event, after that there is only the 3 same boring dungeons, and for even having acces to the chest you need a key, a key you can get only one per day... Cause if you buy another whats the point, you spend 2500 for the key, and get 3000 from the chest... wow 500AD... your too kind.
Basically i don't know whats in there mind. I don't care about PC, i play Xbox and on Xbox AD was all fine... Now i can't do AD more or less exept by getting a tiny ammount by praying...and 3000 if i happen to match my gaming hours with dungeon event... wow. Im not lev 70 super boosted dude, im trying to improve my character and AD was the only way to buy some good armors and gear off the market, now im screwed...
I put 20$ on this game this month, i was happy about getting VIP and all, i got myself a bigger bag cause i had no space left. Now i feel im just gonna let go the game... removing of AD leadership just simply remove the will for me to play...
I think ill just rush my second character to 60, and maybe finish my lev 65 one to 70 for achievements, but then ill call it a wrap...
So far since i started playing this game, it just gotten worst and worst... The expension did add a couple zones wich i enjoyed playing but it removed so much content too ...
How am i even gonna be able to finish Tyranny of Dragon now? Those thing to do cost 20 000 AD each
How am i even gonna be able to finish Tyranny of Dragon now? Those thing to do cost 20 000 AD each
Yep, I'm was going to do some critical strike kits for my different alts, but at 100k each + the regular resources, nope, they're not getting anything.
Probably just going to log in and get the daily key from now on, I just wish my Fallout 4 Pip Boy ed. would get here a month earlier
Oh well, Halo 5 is not that far off, and since I've had ESO+ since launch and only played it 10 hours yet, I might check that out and spend some of those Crowns...
The game isnt about making AD people. Its about the grind and having a good time. Why does everyone want millions of AD so badly. Like i said, you all act like its the end of the world and threaten to quit cause you dont get your way. There are other ways to make AD in the game. run elol. I have gotten Lostmauth drops from it and made some good AD, I have friends who just farm well of dragons and made a ton of AD from the Heroic Encounters. You all want the easy way, which is pretty sad if you ask me and pathetic. Find a way. There is always a way
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Blindmonkey, this is all stuff i CAN'T DO !!! Thats what you need to understand. All i am able to do right now is the HAMSTER basic dungeon wich reward 3000 AD per run (what a waste of time) and praying...
I CAN'T even get to well of dragons, and even if i could, i would get my butt whooped by it cause now everything that was doable at 60 as been dramatically inscrease in difficulty.
When i was 45-50 i was getting tired of having HAMSTER gear, people said "get to 60, thats when the game really start", i got to 60 and a couple days later they made the expension wich made everything now useless and im back at grinding to finally get 70 and be able to do stuff, while during that time AT LEAST i could up my leadership and all...
The game isnt about making AD people. Its about the grind and having a good time. Why does everyone want millions of AD so badly. Like i said, you all act like its the end of the world and threaten to quit cause you dont get your way. There are other ways to make AD in the game. run elol. I have gotten Lostmauth drops from it and made some good AD, I have friends who just farm well of dragons and made a ton of AD from the Heroic Encounters. You all want the easy way, which is pretty sad if you ask me and pathetic. Find a way. There is always a way
You really don't get what the real issue is, do you? Or are you just jealous of those who did leadership?
The ADX is an integral part of Neverwinter, and for sustainability it is calculated that the optimal value is somewhere around 250-280 AD/Zen.
Very few times have the ADX been at those rates on the XB1, and that is because there is were no excessive amount of AD being produced in the XB1 economy, even if you thought so.
Nobody in their right mind will buy Zen to exchange at the current rate: 150AD/Zen
Leadership was a profession that was made with the clear intent of adding RAD to the game, and in no way was removing that part neccessary for the price-reduction in the WB (which should never have been that expensive anyways)
Also, I like how you say the game isn't about making AD, when that currency is one of the most important aspects of the game, all the way from upgrading gear to advancing the campaign...
Removing leadership won't break my bank, I make most of my AD other ways, but the way all of this have been handled is very poor. When you remove the (primary) reward of a very, very time-consuming profession, you have to REPLACE it with something of equal value to the player, and not like this. Saying "we're not done changing it yet isn't how you do it, you make the changes, and THEN you implement it...
I've played this game every day since launch, 1620 hour so far, and I really liked it all the way up to the disaster that is mod 6, but kinda hoped they would shape it up. Now though, with all the removed content (why do you have to remove to rework?) and recent horrible decisions by the developer, not so sure about where this is going...
nope not jealous, i made millions other ways. called having people to party with, run dungeons, have other professions up to 25 and make stuff and sell it. And from drops from dungeons. Why would i be jealous? you crack me up. AD isnt the primary reward. Playing the game is the primary reward. I guess your new to the MMORPG world. you should go play Tetris or Sonic the Hedgehog if you want quick satisfaction. This is about the grind, not quick fixes to get what you want. Its amazing, first you complain about the 4 new expansions, and the amount of time to level to 70, then cause you dont have double refinement when you want it, now you complain cause AD is removed from professions and cause the price of GMOP are dropped after double refinement. Whats next, i hate to see how much you all complain when Strongholds comes out. I just got over 1000 hrs in the game and have 3 characters over 70, 1 with 3k item level, and my alt is on the way there. I dont buy zen and convert it. I find ways to make my AD. and i farm like crazy when i can. This game isnt centered around AD. So why make it about making AD? None of the changes or expansions are disasters. You just gotta know how to play the game. I see so much complaining and such, its entertainment. Makes me enjoy the game that much more. I guess you all didnt get the keyword from them, updates that are on PC will be on Xbox also. I get it, people dont like change. You get set in your ways, then a monkey wrench gets thrown in and you all freak out. But again i will say this, its not the end of the world. Find a way. There is always a way to make AD other than leadership, it just means you all have to stop being lazy and grind. Rank your professions up and sell rings or clothes or unified elements. run dungeons, pvp and skirmishes to get your 21600 a day. Stay focused on 1 character and build it up. get in groups, farm dread ring on tues and thurs for greater marks. join an active guild that helps out there guildies.
There is so much you all can do to make AD. in my guild there is only 1 person who used leadership. You would be amazed at what you can do if you just try. Actions speak louder than words
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... I guess your new to the MMORPG world. you should go play Tetris or Sonic the Hedgehog if you want quick satisfaction. ... I dont buy zen and convert it. I find ways to make my AD.
Yeah, you clearly don't understand how an economic environment like the ADX works, and I'm guessing that trying to explain it for you would be a waste of time...
Still dont see why you keep telling people to go play Tetris and Sonic instead, just because they appreciated one of the aspects of this game, that are required to keep it alive...
I'll give it one more try, and if I put it like this even you might understand: Take one reward away - Replace with another reward.
Do you think they did that with Leadership?
Nevermind, don't answer, I guess it's going to be about playing Battleships or Monopoly anyways...
Gotta like when somebody is so selfish... You have lots of friends to play this game? Good for you, i don't, i just have one buddy.
You have the time to put that much hours into ONE game? Good for you, i don't. I have a life, and i didn't pay 500$ for a machine to only play ONE game...
I couldn't care less that some no life nerd farm this game like crazy and become the Donald Trump of NW and have everything he want.
I want me the ordinary block to be able to able to enjoy the game and still experience the same fun on it.
I get it, people dont like change. You get set in your ways, then a monkey wrench gets thrown in and you all freak out. B
It's not change that bothers me, it's nerfing the most difficult profession in the game to level up...the real problem with it all is that instead of correcting the abuse that was occurring they simply brought a hammer down on the whole profession with no alternative to improve things.
Yes, people spent hours into the profession to leveling up, and now its like slap in the face, haha, all this time you just wasted it. Thanksfully i farmed diamond too, not just XP it til last level. It would had been heart breaking if i did that for nothing.
But now i feel i won't get much out of my leadership...
I get it, people dont like change. You get set in your ways, then a monkey wrench gets thrown in and you all freak out. B
It's not change that bothers me, it's nerfing the most difficult profession in the game to level up...the real problem with it all is that instead of correcting the abuse that was occurring they simply brought a hammer down on the whole profession with no alternative to improve things.
^^^Pretty much this...
Also, not sure if I've gotten this through, fine, you remove the RAD reward, but then you need to replace it with something of value to the player, like refining stones or something, not just remove the RAD part and call it a day. And yes I'm fully aware of the pittance of RP you recieve from some of the higher level tasks...
My point is, you don't remove things until you have the replacement ready, at least not if you want to keep the players happy and therefore around... Just like the dungeons, why the need to remove them before the "new" versions are ready?
(also, I read a post from one of the mods last night that said "if the dungeons return" so there's no guarantee for that either)
Seriously, why do you all think this game is all about the leadership profession? So if there was no leadership profession would you of played this game? Why does everything some of you do have to rely on leadership? Seriously?
Destrowod - so if you dont have anyone to run dungeons and party with, come join my guild, we are active and adding people everyday and partying with them everyday. doing dailies and dungeons and helping them build their character. I love to help others and will always help out. feel free to add me. My gamertag is the same as my forum name.
Mighty - i get it. i am not dumb. But you all make a huge deal out of nothing. FIND A WAY. Keyword. Just cause they remove something doesnt mean you stop playing. If you can make leadership level 25, then make jewelcrafting 25 and a few others and make items to sell. You will make more AD by doing that then you do from leadership anyways... LOL Battleship and Monopoly are fun. Come on now dont knock them. I say Tetris and Sonic cause people want something simple and quick. Well there you go. Go play something simple and is quick to play... LOL
Removing AD from leadership isnt a punishment, its done to force people to actually play the game. You can make over 20k a day from doing your PVP, Dungeons and Skirmishes. So do those geez. LOL. Just might take a little longer for those of you that like to have your armies to make yourselves rich. If you remember right you could only get 3k from each, PVP, Dungeons and Skirmishes. So they boosted them to compensate the loss from leadership. i actually think this is a win. Cause i never went to Rhix to get my dailies. Now i just get the AD automatically.
Hey i have a life and a career. I work 10 hrs a day and every other weekend. I get a couple hrs here and there. And some weekends when i am free and no plans i will play more. I also have played this since the beginning people. But i am not complaining. I adapt to the changes and welcome them. The only thing constant in life is CHANGE.
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Mighty - i get it. i am not dumb. But you all make a huge deal out of nothing. FIND A WAY. Keyword. Just cause they remove something doesnt mean you stop playing. If you can make leadership level 25, then make jewelcrafting 25 and a few others and make items to sell. You will make more AD by doing that then you do from leadership anyways...
Well, I have 8 characters with lvl 25 Jewel- Leather- Plate- and so on, it's not really about AD, the thing is that they need to replace the RAD with something that makes all the time and resources people spent on Leadership worth it.
Unbound or BtA refinement items, or whatever, but they needed to do these changes before they remove the RAD...
Also, consider what would happen to the price of accessories and clothes if those with "leadership armies" turned to that instead? Pretty much no profit would be had then on anything... I switched most of my characters professions at the start of this mod, so it's not a big deal for me, but it's the principle of not just taking things away, but replacing stuff when you remove stuff, and not just saying you might make it up later on... (And if going by the account-wide companion promo screwup on PC, there's not much hope they'll get to any time soon)
But they gave us more AD on PVP, Dungeons and Skirmishes. sure its not 24k. But its 21k. So its still there, just moved. Oh wait, people want to be lazy and just log in and do their leadership and make 24k x 49 characters and only play 1. I got it. Everyone wants to make 1 mil a day on their armies. So they can support their main. Now i see why some people dont know how to play and have a high item level. Well like i said this will weed out the real players from the players.
Play the game and earn it the right way. SO that way when you pop into a dungeon, your not dead weight.
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if you check the AH you will see refinement items and enchants and runestones have dropped ALOT. 400k for a Brilliant Diamond now. 90k for ruby, 1 mil for Rank 10 enchant. you get your armor from running dungeons
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I am just an average player. Not spectacular or anything, nor do i brag about my character. Today is the first i have ever said my ilvl. And my stats are where they are supposed to be. Everyone has a different play style. But i do pretty well in dungeon runs. I do as well as a control wizard can do and paladin. I didnt say pop into a dungeon with me. I said pop into a dungeon. So dont go twisting words.
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Thank you for just plain removing content without actually putting anything in it's place. It is so nice of you to remove all AD from a very difficult and EXTREMELY time consuming profession and not re-work it at all so now it is completely useless. Although I am sure that 800 exp for a 16 hour task will help me progress through those 400,000 exp req levels a lot.
I know right. I have alot of professions at 25. This game is still very easy. The new mods made things prolonged for getting your gear which i love and getting to 70. people are making a big deal out of nothing. I am getting too entertained from this, i may have to stop. Cause i am sure i am pissing people off. And not trying to.
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Thank you for just plain removing content without actually putting anything in it's place. It is so nice of you to remove all AD from a very difficult and EXTREMELY time consuming profession .
Seriously? lol no profession is difficult OR time consuming. you get on select the task and your done. 10secs worth of "time consuming" lol.
I will say again, to yet another clueless player, Leadership AD was the cheapest, most lazy, and most pointless profession in game. Used by lazy players who did not want to run dungeons/skirmishes to make REAL AD the proper way. Instead they make 20 characters, level leadership, and get AD that way.
If you, or anyone crying about this, would actually run dungeons/skirmishes you would see that you can make more from them in 1 hour then you can with leadership in an entire day.
Also, why do you butt hurt people keep deciding to make a new thread about he same thing. There is already a thread started by someone else crying about this.
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I've so far made a bunch of rad by doing dungeons and skirmishes and salvaging a lot of <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> I found on my journeys. But it's so new this update so I need to give it more time to have a full opinion....
Us nubs who only made AD from dailies, prayers and a small amount of selling tat from drops will not be affected at all but people making huge amounts pw REFINED due to multiple characters will lose big time.
The effect of this? Lower price for Zen due to reduced buying (that's a win for me) and lower prices on the AH.
People with large amounts of AD tend to spend it on the higher end stuff, artificially inflating the prices at that end of the market - these prices will now come down to more realistic levels.
Yes I do sympathise with people that invested time getting a good AD farm going but please don't try to tell me this is going to ruin the game - it will do the opposite. Yes, people will leave but tbh they were probably close to that point anyway and the $$ generation held them here.
I don't expect those losing income to feel good about it and for them personally this IS a huge negative but you have to look at the macro-economy too.
This imo is a necessary change. Even though it will greatly inconvenience many, I believe 6 months down the line most will appreciate it.
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Xane De Armadeon: CW
Zen De Armadeon: OP
Zohar De Armadeon: TR
Chrion De Armadeon: SW
Gosti Big Belly: GWF
Barney McRustbucket: GF
Lt. Thackeray: HR
Lucius De Armadeon: BD
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There should be mandatory drug tests for the developers tomorrow.
Do not fear though next step is to make all high value dungeon loot account bound so you can not make money by selling it on the TH.
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Brienne: GWF
Guild : Mystic Dawn (GH20)
The simple fact is, that going from 0-60 takes 910.2k exp. and from 60 to 70 will require 6 174.6k exp...
And if you compare the relative amount of exp. quests gives you, you'll find that the lvl 60+ quests gives nowhere near the same amount as the earlier quests.
No matter how you spin it, it takes (a lot) more time to go from 60 to 70 under the same conditions...
I am no chinese farmer or whatever you people talking about, i am an honest player that just did what he could to get a minimum of AD. I never was able to refine more than my 25k daily...
First they remove the skirmish from my queue so i can't do them during event, after that there is only the 3 same boring dungeons, and for even having acces to the chest you need a key, a key you can get only one per day... Cause if you buy another whats the point, you spend 2500 for the key, and get 3000 from the chest... wow 500AD... your too kind.
Basically i don't know whats in there mind. I don't care about PC, i play Xbox and on Xbox AD was all fine... Now i can't do AD more or less exept by getting a tiny ammount by praying...and 3000 if i happen to match my gaming hours with dungeon event... wow. Im not lev 70 super boosted dude, im trying to improve my character and AD was the only way to buy some good armors and gear off the market, now im screwed...
I put 20$ on this game this month, i was happy about getting VIP and all, i got myself a bigger bag cause i had no space left. Now i feel im just gonna let go the game... removing of AD leadership just simply remove the will for me to play...
I think ill just rush my second character to 60, and maybe finish my lev 65 one to 70 for achievements, but then ill call it a wrap...
So far since i started playing this game, it just gotten worst and worst... The expension did add a couple zones wich i enjoyed playing but it removed so much content too ...
How am i even gonna be able to finish Tyranny of Dragon now? Those thing to do cost 20 000 AD each
Probably just going to log in and get the daily key from now on, I just wish my Fallout 4 Pip Boy ed. would get here a month earlier
Oh well, Halo 5 is not that far off, and since I've had ESO+ since launch and only played it 10 hours yet, I might check that out and spend some of those Crowns...
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Reagents of Death - Leader
CW - Phoenix lvl 70 4034 (Main)
GF - Spectre lvl 70 4012 (Main)
GWF - Ice lvl 70 4010 (Main)
SW - Zor lvl 70 3230 (Main)
OP - Box lvl 70 3002 (Retired)
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GWF - Ice lvl 70 3875 (Main)
GF - Spectre lvl 70 2669 (Alt)
I CAN'T even get to well of dragons, and even if i could, i would get my butt whooped by it cause now everything that was doable at 60 as been dramatically inscrease in difficulty.
When i was 45-50 i was getting tired of having HAMSTER gear, people said "get to 60, thats when the game really start", i got to 60 and a couple days later they made the expension wich made everything now useless and im back at grinding to finally get 70 and be able to do stuff, while during that time AT LEAST i could up my leadership and all...
The ADX is an integral part of Neverwinter, and for sustainability it is calculated that the optimal value is somewhere around 250-280 AD/Zen.
Very few times have the ADX been at those rates on the XB1, and that is because there is were no excessive amount of AD being produced in the XB1 economy, even if you thought so.
Nobody in their right mind will buy Zen to exchange at the current rate: 150AD/Zen
Leadership was a profession that was made with the clear intent of adding RAD to the game, and in no way was removing that part neccessary for the price-reduction in the WB (which should never have been that expensive anyways)
Also, I like how you say the game isn't about making AD, when that currency is one of the most important aspects of the game, all the way from upgrading gear to advancing the campaign...
Removing leadership won't break my bank, I make most of my AD other ways, but the way all of this have been handled is very poor. When you remove the (primary) reward of a very, very time-consuming profession, you have to REPLACE it with something of equal value to the player, and not like this.
Saying "we're not done changing it yet isn't how you do it, you make the changes, and THEN you implement it...
I've played this game every day since launch, 1620 hour so far, and I really liked it all the way up to the disaster that is mod 6, but kinda hoped they would shape it up.
Now though, with all the removed content (why do you have to remove to rework?) and recent horrible decisions by the developer, not so sure about where this is going...
There is so much you all can do to make AD. in my guild there is only 1 person who used leadership. You would be amazed at what you can do if you just try. Actions speak louder than words
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Reagents of Death - Leader
CW - Phoenix lvl 70 4034 (Main)
GF - Spectre lvl 70 4012 (Main)
GWF - Ice lvl 70 4010 (Main)
SW - Zor lvl 70 3230 (Main)
OP - Box lvl 70 3002 (Retired)
PS4
Look Good Play Good
GWF - Ice lvl 70 3875 (Main)
GF - Spectre lvl 70 2669 (Alt)
Still dont see why you keep telling people to go play Tetris and Sonic instead, just because they appreciated one of the aspects of this game, that are required to keep it alive...
I'll give it one more try, and if I put it like this even you might understand:
Take one reward away - Replace with another reward.
Do you think they did that with Leadership?
Nevermind, don't answer, I guess it's going to be about playing Battleships or Monopoly anyways...
You have the time to put that much hours into ONE game? Good for you, i don't. I have a life, and i didn't pay 500$ for a machine to only play ONE game...
I couldn't care less that some no life nerd farm this game like crazy and become the Donald Trump of NW and have everything he want.
I want me the ordinary block to be able to able to enjoy the game and still experience the same fun on it.
But now i feel i won't get much out of my leadership...
Also, not sure if I've gotten this through, fine, you remove the RAD reward, but then you need to replace it with something of value to the player, like refining stones or something, not just remove the RAD part and call it a day.
And yes I'm fully aware of the pittance of RP you recieve from some of the higher level tasks...
My point is, you don't remove things until you have the replacement ready, at least not if you want to keep the players happy and therefore around...
Just like the dungeons, why the need to remove them before the "new" versions are ready?
(also, I read a post from one of the mods last night that said "if the dungeons return" so there's no guarantee for that either)
Destrowod - so if you dont have anyone to run dungeons and party with, come join my guild, we are active and adding people everyday and partying with them everyday. doing dailies and dungeons and helping them build their character. I love to help others and will always help out. feel free to add me. My gamertag is the same as my forum name.
Mighty - i get it. i am not dumb. But you all make a huge deal out of nothing. FIND A WAY. Keyword. Just cause they remove something doesnt mean you stop playing. If you can make leadership level 25, then make jewelcrafting 25 and a few others and make items to sell. You will make more AD by doing that then you do from leadership anyways... LOL
Battleship and Monopoly are fun. Come on now dont knock them. I say Tetris and Sonic cause people want something simple and quick. Well there you go. Go play something simple and is quick to play... LOL
Removing AD from leadership isnt a punishment, its done to force people to actually play the game. You can make over 20k a day from doing your PVP, Dungeons and Skirmishes. So do those geez. LOL. Just might take a little longer for those of you that like to have your armies to make yourselves rich. If you remember right you could only get 3k from each, PVP, Dungeons and Skirmishes. So they boosted them to compensate the loss from leadership. i actually think this is a win. Cause i never went to Rhix to get my dailies. Now i just get the AD automatically.
Hey i have a life and a career. I work 10 hrs a day and every other weekend. I get a couple hrs here and there. And some weekends when i am free and no plans i will play more. I also have played this since the beginning people. But i am not complaining. I adapt to the changes and welcome them. The only thing constant in life is CHANGE.
LGPG Alliance
Reagents of Death - Leader
CW - Phoenix lvl 70 4034 (Main)
GF - Spectre lvl 70 4012 (Main)
GWF - Ice lvl 70 4010 (Main)
SW - Zor lvl 70 3230 (Main)
OP - Box lvl 70 3002 (Retired)
PS4
Look Good Play Good
GWF - Ice lvl 70 3875 (Main)
GF - Spectre lvl 70 2669 (Alt)
Unbound or BtA refinement items, or whatever, but they needed to do these changes before they remove the RAD...
Also, consider what would happen to the price of accessories and clothes if those with "leadership armies" turned to that instead?
Pretty much no profit would be had then on anything...
I switched most of my characters professions at the start of this mod, so it's not a big deal for me, but it's the principle of not just taking things away, but replacing stuff when you remove stuff, and not just saying you might make it up later on...
(And if going by the account-wide companion promo screwup on PC, there's not much hope they'll get to any time soon)
Play the game and earn it the right way. SO that way when you pop into a dungeon, your not dead weight.
LGPG Alliance
Reagents of Death - Leader
CW - Phoenix lvl 70 4034 (Main)
GF - Spectre lvl 70 4012 (Main)
GWF - Ice lvl 70 4010 (Main)
SW - Zor lvl 70 3230 (Main)
OP - Box lvl 70 3002 (Retired)
PS4
Look Good Play Good
GWF - Ice lvl 70 3875 (Main)
GF - Spectre lvl 70 2669 (Alt)
LGPG Alliance
Reagents of Death - Leader
CW - Phoenix lvl 70 4034 (Main)
GF - Spectre lvl 70 4012 (Main)
GWF - Ice lvl 70 4010 (Main)
SW - Zor lvl 70 3230 (Main)
OP - Box lvl 70 3002 (Retired)
PS4
Look Good Play Good
GWF - Ice lvl 70 3875 (Main)
GF - Spectre lvl 70 2669 (Alt)
That's what you concluded from all of this?
Somehow, I'm fairly certain you're not as good as you seem to think you are...
LGPG Alliance
Reagents of Death - Leader
CW - Phoenix lvl 70 4034 (Main)
GF - Spectre lvl 70 4012 (Main)
GWF - Ice lvl 70 4010 (Main)
SW - Zor lvl 70 3230 (Main)
OP - Box lvl 70 3002 (Retired)
PS4
Look Good Play Good
GWF - Ice lvl 70 3875 (Main)
GF - Spectre lvl 70 2669 (Alt)
LGPG Alliance
Reagents of Death - Leader
CW - Phoenix lvl 70 4034 (Main)
GF - Spectre lvl 70 4012 (Main)
GWF - Ice lvl 70 4010 (Main)
SW - Zor lvl 70 3230 (Main)
OP - Box lvl 70 3002 (Retired)
PS4
Look Good Play Good
GWF - Ice lvl 70 3875 (Main)
GF - Spectre lvl 70 2669 (Alt)
Seriously? lol no profession is difficult OR time consuming. you get on select the task and your done. 10secs worth of "time consuming" lol.
I will say again, to yet another clueless player, Leadership AD was the cheapest, most lazy, and most pointless profession in game. Used by lazy players who did not want to run dungeons/skirmishes to make REAL AD the proper way. Instead they make 20 characters, level leadership, and get AD that way.
If you, or anyone crying about this, would actually run dungeons/skirmishes you would see that you can make more from them in 1 hour then you can with leadership in an entire day.
Also, why do you butt hurt people keep deciding to make a new thread about he same thing. There is already a thread started by someone else crying about this.