yes... not only did we see the effect of them being used, but the players using them were examined and plainly had them slotted.
As per forwarding to you privately, I'm pretty sure that's as much of a violation of rules as is posting here in the forum. I'm not sure if requesting that information is though....
Wut? Big-time guild and their leaders and members voicing concerns about broken balance and bug exploits? What are you guys smoking!! LOL
You guys have me laughing in the streets there. As if we don't know how that's ever worked out in the past RRRRRROFL. We've seen from the days of beta just exactly which sort of people abuse which bugs and never get punished for it. Everything from economy ruiners, systematical exploitation of mechanical oversight, and plain straight-up abuse.
What makes you think any of those "big guilds" give a chit? LOL. They already don't care what the state of the game is in. They still abuse bugged stuff. And they do things detrimental to the game which drive out new players and just brutally punish anyone that's still left that's not on their side.
You guys are dreaming.
Stop making excuses. Be a man. If you know something to be broken, stop using it. Otherwise, you've got no right to be speaking of 'balance.'
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vinceent1Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,264Arc User
agree, even if you directly name them, ask them, request them, answer is literally missing. elite in neverwinter means only negatives and no positives.
yes... not only did we see the effect of them being used, but the players using them were examined and plainly had them slotted.
As per forwarding to you privately, I'm pretty sure that's as much of a violation of rules as is posting here in the forum. I'm not sure if requesting that information is though....
I was there in the same GG match as @aimeesellers and I can confirm at least one member of one of the big PvP guilds was using an AP drain overload. Unfortunately I didn't take a screenshot of it, but as they already have these overloads, you can bet they will be using them again.
Hey guys, this is a pretty serious issue. If you have details about exploits, please message @strumslinger or @panderus (or any of the Cryptic names you see here) directly. Please don't post details of the exploit, even if it's just speculation.
I snipped a couple posts here and moved them to a private forum where the Developers could review them, but posting details of exploits is against the rules here, and further violations of the rules will result in some infractions being handed out, so please be careful with your posting.
Again, when it doubt, use the mail system to message directly.
good job in sending the devs to wrong places.
1. there is no exploit in stronghold (no jk) 2. what this guy encountered in PVP (gauntle grym) was the AP bug from the Devoted Cleric.
file a report on how the bug works along side of all the other bugs.
so the DC AP BUG makes your AP go blue while it drains from it, but at the same point it will also give you AP if u attack ur target, how it works? the DC needs to be in enemy team.
if he saw people with that overload he should've taken a screenshot right? since the Inspect is free to use for everyone.
Ok... first off let's get our pronouns correct... I am a SHE... not a HE.
I could name the guild... but I wont. Nor will I send that information to anyone who isnt a developer. I did not take a screenshot, I was a little too angry to think of doing it, however I did see the Mark slotted, and was hit with AP drain, as was @kiraskytower during the same match.
I am not pointing fingers at anyone in public... nor accusing anyone specifically. I saw what I saw, and I wanted to make people aware of it.
Will anyone but a developer get any additional information about who it was or what guild they were in from me? No.
aimeesellersMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 342Arc User
If there is a bug that is being exploited it needs to be found. I have posted what info I have about what I saw... and I wasnt the only one who saw it. Can I prove it? Nope. But if there is something like that going on, it should be easy to find out from the developer side.
In a few days it wont matter anyway, because they will legitimately be available to anyone who has been able to rank up their hall fast enough.
aimeesellersMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 342Arc User
edited August 2015
I made the thread to ask how it was possible... and to hope it gets looked into. If others have seen them being used, they may not be aware of how long it actually takes to get them. I wasnt aware they shouldnt have been in use yet until after the match was over and I added up the upgrade time requirements.
It was at that point I made the connection that there was no way those marks should be available to anyone.
Relax... @metalldjt ... not sure I understand why you are being so defensive about this. I saw something that shouldnt be possible... I made people aware that it shouldnt be possible. No part of this post was directed at you, so I dont see why you are so worked up.
You have stated you dont believe me, and you dont agree with it. I accept that... I am now moving on. I suggest you do the same. Hopefully you are able to log in and play without massive lag and constant disconnects like a lot of others are experiencing today.
i am pretty sure my guild isn't involved, neither 2 of the other good PVP guilds that are out there. so i am waiting for that private.
Describe a "good" PVP guild, please. You can always PM me.
play in one , and you will see for yourself.
yeah, you get good percentage of winning matches. thats that good
p.s. someone use words " good pvp guilds" , this forum is really amazing, so much more fun be here than play that lagfest
I'm curious at to what you even know about pvp guilds at all. My guess is very little. Most use a few bad apples as a representation and act as if there are no bad apples in the pve world or portray those who pvp without a pvp guild as innocent little victims.
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vinceent1Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,264Arc User
i am pretty sure my guild isn't involved, neither 2 of the other good PVP guilds that are out there. so i am waiting for that private.
Describe a "good" PVP guild, please. You can always PM me.
play in one , and you will see for yourself.
yeah, you get good percentage of winning matches. thats that good
p.s. someone use words " good pvp guilds" , this forum is really amazing, so much more fun be here than play that lagfest
I'm curious at to what you even know about pvp guilds at all. My guess is very little. Most use a few bad apples as a representation and act as if there are no bad apples in the pve world or portray those who pvp without a pvp guild as innocent little victims.
i wanna write - "good percentage of winning matches, which they fully deserved for their skilled hardwork. And describing themselves being innocent little victims, hiding themselves behind - thats all cryptic fault " - just saying
i am pretty sure my guild isn't involved, neither 2 of the other good PVP guilds that are out there. so i am waiting for that private.
Describe a "good" PVP guild, please. You can always PM me.
play in one , and you will see for yourself.
yeah, you get good percentage of winning matches. thats that good
p.s. someone use words " good pvp guilds" , this forum is really amazing, so much more fun be here than play that lagfest
I'm curious at to what you even know about pvp guilds at all. My guess is very little. Most use a few bad apples as a representation and act as if there are no bad apples in the pve world or portray those who pvp without a pvp guild as innocent little victims.
i wanna write - "good percentage of winning matches, which they fully deserved for their skilled hardwork. And describing themselves being innocent little victims, hiding themselves behind - thats all cryptic fault " - just saying
If I understand what you mean then I will say "fair enough".
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vinceent1Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,264Arc User
i am pretty sure my guild isn't involved, neither 2 of the other good PVP guilds that are out there. so i am waiting for that private.
Describe a "good" PVP guild, please. You can always PM me.
play in one , and you will see for yourself.
yeah, you get good percentage of winning matches. thats that good
p.s. someone use words " good pvp guilds" , this forum is really amazing, so much more fun be here than play that lagfest
I'm curious at to what you even know about pvp guilds at all. My guess is very little. Most use a few bad apples as a representation and act as if there are no bad apples in the pve world or portray those who pvp without a pvp guild as innocent little victims.
i wanna write - "good percentage of winning matches, which they fully deserved for their skilled hardwork. And describing themselves being innocent little victims, hiding themselves behind - thats all cryptic fault " - just saying
If I understand what you mean then I will say "fair enough".
i am pretty sure my guild isn't involved, neither 2 of the other good PVP guilds that are out there. so i am waiting for that private.
Describe a "good" PVP guild, please. You can always PM me.
play in one , and you will see for yourself.
yeah, you get good percentage of winning matches. thats that good
p.s. someone use words " good pvp guilds" , this forum is really amazing, so much more fun be here than play that lagfest
I'm curious at to what you even know about pvp guilds at all. My guess is very little. Most use a few bad apples as a representation and act as if there are no bad apples in the pve world or portray those who pvp without a pvp guild as innocent little victims.
i wanna write - "good percentage of winning matches, which they fully deserved for their skilled hardwork. And describing themselves being innocent little victims, hiding themselves behind - thats all cryptic fault " - just saying
If I understand what you mean then I will say "fair enough".
as i know you, i dont think you understand enough
I probably don't understand what you mean because you seem to be mostly lost. If you care to explain, go ahead.
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vinceent1Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,264Arc User
Good percentage of winning matches. "which they fully deserved for their skilled hardwork" (sarcasm)
And describing their pvp guilds being innocent little victims and hiding behind the mindset : "thats all cryptic fault "
Good percentage of winning matches. "which they fully deserved for their skilled hardwork" (sarcasm)
And describing their pvp guilds being innocent little victims and hiding behind the mindset : "thats all cryptic fault "
I give up...I don't think you can explain it. Language barrier.
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ironzerg79Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 4,942Arc User
And that's a wrap folks. I don't think this thread is going anywhere productive anymore.
Regardless, the concerns about possible Stronghold exploits have been passed along to the devs. In the future, please remember to PM those directly, including any screenshots you might have.
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You guys have me laughing in the streets there. As if we don't know how that's ever worked out in the past RRRRRROFL. We've seen from the days of beta just exactly which sort of people abuse which bugs and never get punished for it. Everything from economy ruiners, systematical exploitation of mechanical oversight, and plain straight-up abuse.
What makes you think any of those "big guilds" give a chit? LOL. They already don't care what the state of the game is in. They still abuse bugged stuff. And they do things detrimental to the game which drive out new players and just brutally punish anyone that's still left that's not on their side.
You guys are dreaming.
If you know something to be broken, stop using it.
Otherwise, you've got no right to be speaking of 'balance.'
Winter Lily (CW) / Winter Rose (DC) / Winter Ivy (HR)
Pandora's Misfits Guild Leader
I could name the guild... but I wont. Nor will I send that information to anyone who isnt a developer. I did not take a screenshot, I was a little too angry to think of doing it, however I did see the Mark slotted, and was hit with AP drain, as was @kiraskytower during the same match.
I am not pointing fingers at anyone in public... nor accusing anyone specifically. I saw what I saw, and I wanted to make people aware of it.
Will anyone but a developer get any additional information about who it was or what guild they were in from me? No.
Pandora's Misfits Guild Leader
In a few days it wont matter anyway, because they will legitimately be available to anyone who has been able to rank up their hall fast enough.
Pandora's Misfits Guild Leader
It was at that point I made the connection that there was no way those marks should be available to anyone.
Relax... @metalldjt ... not sure I understand why you are being so defensive about this. I saw something that shouldnt be possible... I made people aware that it shouldnt be possible. No part of this post was directed at you, so I dont see why you are so worked up.
You have stated you dont believe me, and you dont agree with it. I accept that... I am now moving on. I suggest you do the same. Hopefully you are able to log in and play without massive lag and constant disconnects like a lot of others are experiencing today.
Oh... and have a nice day.
Pandora's Misfits Guild Leader
Pandora's Misfits Guild Leader
Pandora's Misfits Guild Leader
Pandora's Misfits Guild Leader
p.s. someone use words " good pvp guilds" , this forum is really amazing, so much more fun be here than play that lagfest
And describing their pvp guilds being innocent little victims and hiding behind the mindset : "thats all cryptic fault "
Regardless, the concerns about possible Stronghold exploits have been passed along to the devs. In the future, please remember to PM those directly, including any screenshots you might have.