Limiting AD per account wont help much, cause people have multiple accounts and you can easily transfer AD via Gmops, RP points or w/e you buy from AH. However, it would definitely slow down those who have 20+ characters on single account.
Best way would be to replace AD from invoking and Leadership with RP points. Those BIS guys wouldnt even notice the differece, because they get maxed RP quite fast anyway, but it would lower the price for RP and let new / casual players get RP a lot easier.
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icyphishMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,255Arc User
if they would remove all the artifact equipments and reveal it back to Castle Never time where the BIS gears are just one single drop from a very challenging content, this would be nice. Less gear grinding more fun and meaningful running dungeons
And yes I also agree that if they remove tenancity and just design pvp gears' stats to be just more pvp focused then the pve players would have an eaiser time stepping into pvp without the necessarity of grinding tenancity gears
8 atifacts , 22 !!! slots to buff stats, 2 enchants , 2 glyphes, on top 8 equipementenchants, 3 gazillion boons
thats just silly, there is no need for all that, it disbalances the hole game too much
boons, ok but not new ones every mod, just fix the old ones first
2 enchants ok, but no degree of refinement
22 slots? 4 is enough
glyphes? skip them, no need
equipementenchants? skip it, most even don´t use them in case your equip changes all 6 month
8 artifacts...too much
broken set boni? gamebreaking, skip
think creative about other things to make ppl spend money
1) negation enchant
2) immortal healers that make EVERYONE ELSE immortal.
3) Immortal OP.
4) Permastealth TR with perma CC.
5) CWs that can mitigate more damage than a GF.
Agreed. I'd add anything with perma CC (stun, daze, whatever).
A new breed of GWF using Trans Feytouched and able to withstand ridiculous damage while healing constantly and dealing insane 3 swipes and you are dead kind of damage has become widespread as of late. I'm assuming there are some "math errors" and "unintended power interactions" at work here as a class so completely dominant over all the others doesn't seem WAI. Don't mean to turn this into a boo-hoo gwfs too powerful plz nerf thread, but there does seem to be something about this particular setup being passed around the elite pvp community that may need looking into.
It's working as intended and they are getting a buff next mod, so don't expect any of the calamity you are seeing now to change.
You have a number of BIS GWF with high HAMSTER Armorpen on top of T. Feytouch one shotting a lot of people, currently with IDS, so while there is a number of things at work here, there are no plans t nerf it.
My suggestion is this, make you a GWF, find out what the top PvP BIS FoTM builds are from guilds such as Absolute, Daybreak Express, Black Lotus, Holy Crusaders and the rest of the PvP/PvE guilds farming SH PvP are running and put in for membership.
If you don't like what you are seeing, put your game on hold, don't spend any time or money on the game and wait until you see things you like to come back (the top guy of the company and developers made the game to be played in this manner anyways, "leave for a year, come back and play, rinse and repeat.".
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I may not be considered by most the BEST PVP Warlock on the server but, I am the most HATED amongst them.
A new breed of GWF using Trans Feytouched and able to withstand ridiculous damage while healing constantly and dealing insane 3 swipes and you are dead kind of damage has become widespread as of late. I'm assuming there are some "math errors" and "unintended power interactions" at work here as a class so completely dominant over all the others doesn't seem WAI. Don't mean to turn this into a boo-hoo gwfs too powerful plz nerf thread, but there does seem to be something about this particular setup being passed around the elite pvp community that may need looking into.
A new breed of GWF using Trans Feytouched and able to withstand ridiculous damage while healing constantly and dealing insane 3 swipes and you are dead kind of damage has become widespread as of late. I'm assuming there are some "math errors" and "unintended power interactions" at work here as a class so completely dominant over all the others doesn't seem WAI. Don't mean to turn this into a boo-hoo gwfs too powerful plz nerf thread, but there does seem to be something about this particular setup being passed around the elite pvp community that may need looking into.
It's working as intended and they are getting a buff next mod, so don't expect any of the calamity you are seeing now to change.
You have a number of BIS GWF with high HAMSTER Armorpen on top of T. Feytouch one shotting a lot of people, currently with IDS, so while there is a number of things at work here, there are no plans t nerf it.
My suggestion is this, make you a GWF, find out what the top PvP BIS FoTM builds are from guilds such as Absolute, Daybreak Express, Black Lotus, Holy Crusaders and the rest of the PvP/PvE guilds farming SH PvP are running and put in for membership.
If you don't like what you are seeing, put your game on hold, don't spend any time or money on the game and wait until you see things you like to come back (the top guy of the company and developers made the game to be played in this manner anyways, "leave for a year, come back and play, rinse and repeat.".
I met a 3k GF in domination that one- or twoshotted my 2,8k-full-burning-set-warlock in the blink of an eye with ease again and again worse than GWF in imo, because there was nothing I could do I also met these monster GWF who deal with absurd ammounts of damage Imo GF has the most redicules burst damage of all classes, feels worse than TR or GWF nearly same equip and oneshotted? 3,1k vs 2,8k no room to react or counter this c.rap
Btw i was happy killing that kraps (attacking by betray as a Rogue i am) but today i meet someone inmortal SE in tha face 13k damage other of my team still hitting him was like attacking a paladín but this one does tons of damage with at Wills... I couldnt dodge well and when i inspected him he was not using stronghold overloads but the red dragon one and other i dont remember but first time i read that name ....
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mamalion1234Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 3,415Arc User
It's the worst thing to ever happen in this game. I've played one PVP game only since the past 3 weeks.
Think I might check Skyforge out.
Agree, but lets be honest PvP is in the worst state EVER, in each module before this one, PvP had SOMETHING broken, now its everything broken just to make a fast apendix.
1) negation enchant
2) immortal healers that make EVERYONE ELSE immortal.
3) Immortal OP.
4) Permastealth TR with perma CC.
5) CWs that can mitigate more damage than a GF.
And the list goes on and on. And the game got so broken that this time i really don't believe that cryptic can do anything to fix it as they worked very hard for ruin the game to this point some examples of bad cryptic "logic" that made the game reach this state:
- No one wanted healers in their party cause they got too little damage. So instead of raising the healers damage, cryptic buffed their healing to absurd reaches and made every single stupid mob single shoot a player to FORCE players to always have a healer in the party. So in PvP the effect is that every healer become imortal and makes every other player close to him imortal as well.
And well, i could keep talking about this the whole weekend so i will call a day here.
PvP is uterly ruined i can't even do my PvP dailies anymore.
About the cw shield stop about this please. 2 att wills are enough to break it. or a dot enchant like feytouched once the dot applies bb shield.
Btw i was happy killing that kraps (attacking by betray as a Rogue i am) but today i meet someone inmortal SE in tha face 13k damage other of my team still hitting him was like attacking a paladín but this one does tons of damage with at Wills... I couldnt dodge well and when i inspected him he was not using stronghold overloads but the red dragon one and other i dont remember but first time i read that name ....
you should have inspected his compagnion instead, read about that pig?
Btw i was happy killing that kraps (attacking by betray as a Rogue i am) but today i meet someone inmortal SE in tha face 13k damage other of my team still hitting him was like attacking a paladín but this one does tons of damage with at Wills... I couldnt dodge well and when i inspected him he was not using stronghold overloads but the red dragon one and other i dont remember but first time i read that name ....
Cesuke...do you perhaps use google translator? Just asking...
feanor70118Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,170Arc User
GWF has always been the overcompensating no-skill button masher's class of choice, even more so than TR and (now) OP. They have to be overpowered and easy to play or they will whine endlessly about it how unstoppable isn't active 100% of the time or they actually have to come with two lengths of their ludicrously long weapon's length in order to do damage. Heaven forbid they should actually have to make contact with a target like a genuine melee class. And yes, the devs made it even worse by throwing the enchantments completely out of balance (and not fixing the bug with elven battle).
How hard would it have been, really, to give every enchantment 100% uptime like feytouched and negation, or make them all equally useful? Any harder than changing about a dozen numbers in code and taking, say, five minutes?
GWF has always been the overcompensating no-skill button masher's class of choice, even more so than TR and (now) OP. They have to be overpowered and easy to play or they will whine endlessly about it how unstoppable isn't active 100% of the time or they actually have to come with two lengths of their ludicrously long weapon's length in order to do damage. Heaven forbid they should actually have to make contact with a target like a genuine melee class. And yes, the devs made it even worse by throwing the enchantments completely out of balance (and not fixing the bug with elven battle).
How hard would it have been, really, to give every enchantment 100% uptime like feytouched and negation, or make them all equally useful? Any harder than changing about a dozen numbers in code and taking, say, five minutes?
yes, the threads about GWF in the Preview pre mod 6 was epic :```( probably needed in some aspects
About the cw shield stop about this please. 2 att wills are enough to break it. or a dot enchant like feytouched once the dot applies bb shield.
Actually...
There is a bug with TR atm... no one cares, but consistantly, and quite constantly, if a TR uses Fey, its impossible to weaken a CW shield
In stealth (which is a normal bug that happens without fey enchant)
and out of stealth.
Ah that might explain something I encountered and I could not figure out just why I was unable to do any meaningful damage to this CW after a chain over over 3 flurries . Fortunately I was on my MI and not my WK and the MI is so idiot proof that I was able to effectively survive and make my escape after terribly over-committing myself into the situation initially.
Im still waiting for any Super hyper mega over game breaking GWF without Lostmauth, Feytouched and Negation to show up... Ops, sorry, i forgot that all those items are used by most PvP Players too... My bad.
I saw one using Feytouched / Imperial dragon set, and Negation, so he was missing the lostmauth at least haha but he had20k+ Armorpen. he was pretty scary. No Lostmauth since his crit was like sub 20% but he killed a similary geared (they were both around 4k) GWF who was the lostmouth crit build with little problem.
long gone the time ...of " if i dont miss " . Now with those stamina drain all it takes few hits and there u go u have a 100% sitting duck in ur font . U wont miss unless ur blind
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Best way would be to replace AD from invoking and Leadership with RP points. Those BIS guys wouldnt even notice the differece, because they get maxed RP quite fast anyway, but it would lower the price for RP and let new / casual players get RP a lot easier.
And yes I also agree that if they remove tenancity and just design pvp gears' stats to be just more pvp focused then the pve players would have an eaiser time stepping into pvp without the necessarity of grinding tenancity gears
Author of GWF Speed Demon PvP Build (Mod 11) <- Click to reveal the Speedy Beast! >:)
thats just silly, there is no need for all that, it disbalances the hole game too much
boons, ok but not new ones every mod, just fix the old ones first
2 enchants ok, but no degree of refinement
22 slots? 4 is enough
glyphes? skip them, no need
equipementenchants? skip it, most even don´t use them in case your equip changes all 6 month
8 artifacts...too much
broken set boni? gamebreaking, skip
think creative about other things to make ppl spend money
Agreed. I'd add anything with perma CC (stun, daze, whatever).
You have a number of BIS GWF with high HAMSTER Armorpen on top of T. Feytouch one shotting a lot of people, currently with IDS, so while there is a number of things at work here, there are no plans t nerf it.
My suggestion is this, make you a GWF, find out what the top PvP BIS FoTM builds are from guilds such as Absolute, Daybreak Express, Black Lotus, Holy Crusaders and the rest of the PvP/PvE guilds farming SH PvP are running and put in for membership.
If you don't like what you are seeing, put your game on hold, don't spend any time or money on the game and wait until you see things you like to come back (the top guy of the company and developers made the game to be played in this manner anyways, "leave for a year, come back and play, rinse and repeat.".
-Kymos
got three words for you: companion active bonus
once its gone gwf are not that op anymore.worse than GWF in imo, because there was nothing I could do
I also met these monster GWF who deal with absurd ammounts of damage
Imo GF has the most redicules burst damage of all classes, feels worse than TR or GWF
nearly same equip and oneshotted? 3,1k vs 2,8k no room to react or counter this c.rap
Agree, but lets be honest PvP is in the worst state EVER, in each module before this one, PvP had SOMETHING broken, now its everything broken just to make a fast apendix.
1) negation enchant
2) immortal healers that make EVERYONE ELSE immortal.
3) Immortal OP.
4) Permastealth TR with perma CC.
5) CWs that can mitigate more damage than a GF.
And the list goes on and on. And the game got so broken that this time i really don't believe that cryptic can do anything to fix it as they worked very hard for ruin the game to this point some examples of bad cryptic "logic" that made the game reach this state:
- No one wanted healers in their party cause they got too little damage. So instead of raising the healers damage, cryptic buffed their healing to absurd reaches and made every single stupid mob single shoot a player to FORCE players to always have a healer in the party. So in PvP the effect is that every healer become imortal and makes every other player close to him imortal as well.
And well, i could keep talking about this the whole weekend so i will call a day here.
PvP is uterly ruined i can't even do my PvP dailies anymore.
About the cw shield stop about this please. 2 att wills are enough to break it. or a dot enchant like feytouched once the dot applies bb shield.
Just asking...
There is a bug with TR atm... no one cares, but consistantly, and quite constantly, if a TR uses Fey, its impossible to weaken a CW shield
In stealth (which is a normal bug that happens without fey enchant)
and out of stealth.
How hard would it have been, really, to give every enchantment 100% uptime like feytouched and negation, or make them all equally useful? Any harder than changing about a dozen numbers in code and taking, say, five minutes?
probably needed in some aspects
Drunken Goose of MidNight Express. - 3.3k Paladin , 3.6k GWF , 3.1k GF,
Author of GWF Speed Demon PvP Build (Mod 11) <- Click to reveal the Speedy Beast! >:)