Yeah...it'll only drive some players away on the edge if they find they lost everything in the bags, i really hope it didn't cost me my heroic peices on my main....
I basically agree with everything that cybersoldier said.
I think that complete FF is very unbalanced, unless it had mroe restrictions and/or skills were more balanced themselves.
From a logic point it doesn't make much sense to have random skills on our chars, most superheroes have some kind of theme to their powers, not one fire, one ice, one electric, one ninja, one demon, one magical, one with guns, etc.
I know many people love their FFs so I'm probably alone on this though.
CoX system looked pretty good to me, it was somewhat free but not completely free, but much more balanced. Too bad I couldn't stand the graphics in that game enough to play it more than 10 mins.
About the story and quests in CO, even though I know it was aimed more to be like those old suoperhero cartoons I still would have prefered something more serious (like DCUO) but I guess that's rather personal.
Your idea of "most heros" has a very narrow scope my friend. CO isn't just all tights-wearing, one dimensional, element heroes. We also have magic users here... you know, the kind who might know a fireball spell, a lightning spell, a freeze spell, a magical shield spell etc... We have magi-tech heroes, multi-elemental heroes, and heroes from other dimensions where you notion of theme might not even apply.
Then look at some of the NPCs in game, you'll actually find a few that cross over the powerset boundaries. Ever noticed how many DEMON npcs use chest beam? Check out Rakshasa and his mix of bestial and telepathy. Shadow D thinks its cool to mix magic and technology. There's many more examples.
If you want to be restricted to a one-dimensional single-set hero, there's always archetypes.
I always preferred CO to CoH, there is more action and more customization. Only problem is a lot of people are fairly single minded about their 'builds' and just end up choosing something because they see someone else using it.
My game is patching while the server is down again! :U
Not sure how this works
POWERFRAME REVAMPS, NEW POWERS and BUG FIXES > Recycled Content and Events and even costumes at this point Introvert guy who use CO to make his characters playable and get experimental with Viable FF Theme builds! Running out of Unique FF builds due to the lack of updates and synergies! Playing since 1 February 2011 128 + Characters (21 ATs, 107 FFs) ALTitis for Life!
Yes, but it should be encouraged such people explore things and different tactics. The freeform system, I am sighing in defeat, it's an illusion because it doesn't encourage any variety of strategy in this game, CoX's archtype/powerset system did that, toon A played very, very different than toon B yet both were solo, CO you don't see that.
You actually do see that... I think your problem is you're only looking at the fotm copybuilders and convincing yourself that that's all there is.
I mean, since you're talking about this, you yourself do of course use unique builds and different tactics, right?
If that's the case... then what's the problem?
If that's not the case... then why are you doing the thing you're criticizing others for? u_u
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I always preferred CO to CoH, there is more action and more customization. Only problem is a lot of people are fairly single minded about their 'builds' and just end up choosing something because they see someone else using it.
Or they pick something because it has the biggest number, then complain that the freeform system isn't freeform because that big number is "forcing" them to use certain powers instead of what they "want" to use .-.
Which i've asked for, and theres a sledgehammer nerf and the people who want everything to be nerfed(refraining from that word and that term), get there way.
You probably won't see that, if this game doesn't make it.
You guys are DESTROYING yourselves here. Really, you guys are doing this to yourselves. The things said and whatnot, it reflects badly on everything in CO.
Who's destroying themselves? You're being melodramatic. Go drink some tea and watch a movie on lifetime u_u
laughinxan: Please understand and better represent that your posts are your own ideas/opinions and that just because YOU do not see something does not actually mean it's not there and/or possible. Also, might want to be careful with the word "all" since I know that at least I am the exception to most of those claims....and I would suspect I am not alone in this.(Edit: Oh look there's Kenpo, see what I mean?)
Lordgar: Thanks for the timely communication and efforts. Good luck. :biggrin:
The majority of everyone else: Could we please take a break from the doom parades and apocalyptic grandstanding so that these types of posts don't get in the way of relevant thread information about the current problems/bugs? I, personally, am way more concerned about losing a bag slot full of interesting pretties than I am another week in the "Let's theorycraft dodge doom" discussion. Please?
I just got into the office, so I'm catching up on what exactly happened. I promise that we're working to resolve this as soon as possible -- our intent with this VetRewards change was to make a positive change, and we're going to do what it takes to keep it positive. Stay tuned, I'll have more information soon.
We get free retcons, Justice gear seems to be in limbo, they didn't push the offense changes when they saw some potential numbers, etc.
Not happy, but it could have been worse.
Yeah, but what does Bank of America say about this patch? Is their army of lawyers still going to fight it on your behalf, or do they need to playtest it a little more first? :biggrin:
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POWERFRAME REVAMPS, NEW POWERS and BUG FIXES > Recycled Content and Events and even costumes at this point Introvert guy who use CO to make his characters playable and get experimental with Viable FF Theme builds! Running out of Unique FF builds due to the lack of updates and synergies! Playing since 1 February 2011 128 + Characters (21 ATs, 107 FFs) ALTitis for Life!
All freeforms are tank mages that don't use crowd control.
Some freeform system....
To many powers are underpowered, to a point of being very stupid to use....
...some freeform system...
...there aren't enough buffs that are in theme for people who want to play real support....
....some freeform system...
...support in fact tends to be healing healing healing...
....some freeform system.
You make me laugh. I find this to be single minded and fairly ignorant.
In what way are all FF's tanky mages with no control? I'm a dps techno controller that knees people in the shins and hits people under the belt as I'm a small imp, it's my theme. Most others have themes too. If someone doesn't want a theme then sure, it's up to them. IT'S THEIR CHOICE. Some free form system, giving us choice! I want to be forced into a theme!
Every power has a use, currently although I agree that some powers are underpowered to the point of not having that much of a point. You get this on most games though and you are in no way being forced NOT to use them.
There are plenty of buffs, many powers have advantages too which open up much more possibilities.
Support isn't ONLY healing. Support also makes CC strong, get manipulator and int and you'll have a super strong hold / root. You can also make it so when you root someone you make them take more damage, there are many more things like this. I don't see where you are getting all this from.
Apparently no one gets that this is JUST A F:mad:CKING GAME. If the 'Obamacare' website can't even function after this long, I'd say it's a miracle that CO is up-and-running most of the time.
Just putting things in perspective, ya know. But in all seriousness, if you don't like CO, then y'all can get out. Just like 'Murica. You love 'Murica, don't you?
Well, CO and America is one and the same.
(ok, that's quite a stretch, but I think I made my point... whatever that may be)
It makes sense, if you don't think about it.
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- Veteran Rewards now unlock immediately for Lifetime Subscribers. You can read more about this change here.
Powers
- Dodge and Avoid have changed substantially in this patch. Dodge Rating will now only be found on equipment and in specs, and will provide less dodge than in the past. In addition to this many of the powers that previously granted dodge rating now grant flat Dodge Chance. You can read more about these changes in this dev blog by Gentleman Crush.
- All characters created before October 24th 2013 have been given a Free Retcon.
Items:
- Recognition tokens that are dropped on the ground now have a unique appearance and will automatically picked when you walk over them.
The Drifter Store:
- The Drifter store now has Armadillo costume pieces for sale.
- The Drifter store has a new vehicle for sale: AV-55C Akema VTOL
- You can now store Drifter Salvage in your Account Bank.
UI:
- Added a Change Character button to the game menu that goes to the Character Select screen.
- Added a Sort button to the inventory and bank windows.
You didnt warn abuot the maint at 17hours EST How long will it last?
You guys are destroying yourselves by telling CoX players to move on, alienating us.
You guys are destroying yourselves by asking for sledgehammer nerfs and getting it.
You guys are destroying yourselves by closing out anyones suggestion based on the game they played in the past, even when they tell you repeatedly they are not asking for a copy of the game
You guys are destroying yourselves by ENCOURAGING the neglect at large and not allowing for any conditions in this game for any truer variety of tactics.
And you ultimate destroy yourselves by making yourselves look bad.
Have you watched hell on wheels? When the Cheyenne visit the town in the first season? They see a dying animal, a woman vomiting covered in her own filth, and get subject to biggotry and racism. Well, us CoX players are the cheyenne, you guys come off as the europeans. When someone said we were welcomed, I think that was bullcrap, you let a few bad apples among us, like golden girl, paint this negative image on ALL of us.
Well, you guys get a negative image painted on yourselves.
Calm down man. Look, you clearly are being way to naive by saying that you are being forced to FOTM for one. Plus there are many more tactics to use, I don't see nearly enough people using props like trees to cut of field of view.
You are saying you being an old CoX player gives you the right to step all over other peoples opinions. There are MANY more CoX players, not everyone is you, you do not represent CoX as the game it once was. Calm down.
Have you watched hell on wheels? When the Cheyenne visit the town in the first season? They see a dying animal, a woman vomiting covered in her own filth, and get subject to biggotry and racism. Well, us CoX players are the cheyenne, you guys come off as the europeans. When someone said we were welcomed, I think that was bullcrap, you let a few bad apples among us, like golden girl, paint this negative image on ALL of us.
Well, you guys get a negative image painted on yourselves.
Ok, I normally don't make posts like this but you, sir, have just earned an exception. As a full blooded Tsalagri Cherokee(and a member of the human race) I find your comparison to be absolutely moronic. I think, if anything, you've proven that you maybe shouldn't be using the forums as much as you do and should, at the very least, take a break and try to get your synapses firing again. Anytime someone brings a video game community into direct comparisons with biggotry and racism...they failed an IQ Test.
To everyone else: Sorry you had to see that but...wow...just wow.
I have to say in CO's behalf, that I myself played both CoX and CO and I stuck with CO. The levels of customization in FF are quite amazing. A big part of the fun for me is to keep trying to mix different powersets to see how they will work together. I have 40+ characters and not one of them is exactly like the others.
At first i thought this is the end of CO. On a second look i noticed that it doesn't affect my AT too much and i can beat the fancy FF to pulp, even better now ^^.
Duel anybody? :rolleyes:
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They have brought the servers down to fix it. Lol
A Playlist of my CO PvP video's (starting from post nerf PTS team duels)
Bloody hell you can hear text ona screen O_O"
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They all thought I was out of the game....But I'm holding all the lockboxes now..
I'll......FOAM FINGER YOUR BACK!
And I'll wait until it's F2P.
Your idea of "most heros" has a very narrow scope my friend. CO isn't just all tights-wearing, one dimensional, element heroes. We also have magic users here... you know, the kind who might know a fireball spell, a lightning spell, a freeze spell, a magical shield spell etc... We have magi-tech heroes, multi-elemental heroes, and heroes from other dimensions where you notion of theme might not even apply.
Then look at some of the NPCs in game, you'll actually find a few that cross over the powerset boundaries. Ever noticed how many DEMON npcs use chest beam? Check out Rakshasa and his mix of bestial and telepathy. Shadow D thinks its cool to mix magic and technology. There's many more examples.
If you want to be restricted to a one-dimensional single-set hero, there's always archetypes.
My super cool CC build and how to use it.
I always preferred CO to CoH, there is more action and more customization. Only problem is a lot of people are fairly single minded about their 'builds' and just end up choosing something because they see someone else using it.
A Playlist of my CO PvP video's (starting from post nerf PTS team duels)
Not sure how this works
Stuff broke. Need fix. Relax.
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You actually do see that... I think your problem is you're only looking at the fotm copybuilders and convincing yourself that that's all there is.
I mean, since you're talking about this, you yourself do of course use unique builds and different tactics, right?
If that's the case... then what's the problem?
If that's not the case... then why are you doing the thing you're criticizing others for? u_u
My super cool CC build and how to use it.
Or they pick something because it has the biggest number, then complain that the freeform system isn't freeform because that big number is "forcing" them to use certain powers instead of what they "want" to use .-.
My super cool CC build and how to use it.
Who's destroying themselves? You're being melodramatic. Go drink some tea and watch a movie on lifetime u_u
My super cool CC build and how to use it.
This is not true of several characters in my stable.
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laughinxan: Please understand and better represent that your posts are your own ideas/opinions and that just because YOU do not see something does not actually mean it's not there and/or possible. Also, might want to be careful with the word "all" since I know that at least I am the exception to most of those claims....and I would suspect I am not alone in this.(Edit: Oh look there's Kenpo, see what I mean?)
Lordgar: Thanks for the timely communication and efforts. Good luck. :biggrin:
The majority of everyone else: Could we please take a break from the doom parades and apocalyptic grandstanding so that these types of posts don't get in the way of relevant thread information about the current problems/bugs? I, personally, am way more concerned about losing a bag slot full of interesting pretties than I am another week in the "Let's theorycraft dodge doom" discussion. Please?
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I just got into the office, so I'm catching up on what exactly happened. I promise that we're working to resolve this as soon as possible -- our intent with this VetRewards change was to make a positive change, and we're going to do what it takes to keep it positive. Stay tuned, I'll have more information soon.
I think he means all the young people.
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Yeah, but what does Bank of America say about this patch? Is their army of lawyers still going to fight it on your behalf, or do they need to playtest it a little more first? :biggrin:
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So, sit down, have a beer. If underage, have a soda.
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You make me laugh. I find this to be single minded and fairly ignorant.
In what way are all FF's tanky mages with no control? I'm a dps techno controller that knees people in the shins and hits people under the belt as I'm a small imp, it's my theme. Most others have themes too. If someone doesn't want a theme then sure, it's up to them. IT'S THEIR CHOICE. Some free form system, giving us choice! I want to be forced into a theme!
Every power has a use, currently although I agree that some powers are underpowered to the point of not having that much of a point. You get this on most games though and you are in no way being forced NOT to use them.
There are plenty of buffs, many powers have advantages too which open up much more possibilities.
Support isn't ONLY healing. Support also makes CC strong, get manipulator and int and you'll have a super strong hold / root. You can also make it so when you root someone you make them take more damage, there are many more things like this. I don't see where you are getting all this from.
A Playlist of my CO PvP video's (starting from post nerf PTS team duels)
Just putting things in perspective, ya know. But in all seriousness, if you don't like CO, then y'all can get out. Just like 'Murica. You love 'Murica, don't you?
Well, CO and America is one and the same.
(ok, that's quite a stretch, but I think I made my point... whatever that may be)
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**** happens, jonnyboy.
But i agree. Trailturtle needs to forsee the future.
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Calm down man. Look, you clearly are being way to naive by saying that you are being forced to FOTM for one. Plus there are many more tactics to use, I don't see nearly enough people using props like trees to cut of field of view.
You are saying you being an old CoX player gives you the right to step all over other peoples opinions. There are MANY more CoX players, not everyone is you, you do not represent CoX as the game it once was. Calm down.
Also have you ever tried the 12 second stuns?
A Playlist of my CO PvP video's (starting from post nerf PTS team duels)
Ok, I normally don't make posts like this but you, sir, have just earned an exception. As a full blooded Tsalagri Cherokee(and a member of the human race) I find your comparison to be absolutely moronic. I think, if anything, you've proven that you maybe shouldn't be using the forums as much as you do and should, at the very least, take a break and try to get your synapses firing again. Anytime someone brings a video game community into direct comparisons with biggotry and racism...they failed an IQ Test.
To everyone else: Sorry you had to see that but...wow...just wow.
Join Date: Aug 2009 | Title: Devslayer
/sunglasses
/MyGod.
Apathy is on the rise, but nobody seems to care.
Duel anybody? :rolleyes:
P.S. Send anybody you want, don't send anybody you want back. *manly hug*
Thats evil I wouldn't wish a Movie showing on Lifetime on anyone.
Nepht and Dr Deflecto on primus
They all thought I was out of the game....But I'm holding all the lockboxes now..
I'll......FOAM FINGER YOUR BACK!