Are you unhappy with Champions Online?

nextnametaken · March 2013

Did you have high hopes and bright feelings in your heart for this game?
Are those feelings gone?
Do you feel let down, mad, sad, anxious and generally uneasy about the present state and future of the game?

You may suffer from repetitive stress injuries and cytokine induced depression and/or an addiction.

Recent research points to repetitive stress injury induced sick worker syndrome.
The forums reflect the aggressive antagonistic hopeless behavior symptom.

This happens before any sign of physical injury appears. So you might find yourself with a bad neck, shoulder, back, posture, wrist ailment, eye strain, ear exhaustion (thats a thing). Maybe you already have one, and its only being aggravated.

Nature doesn't want you to sit on one spot and suck on one root for all your nourishment and development, it pumps you full of immune system cells that cause inflammation, that inflammation includes your brain.

If you are addicted to something that you can never get a higher more exciting dosage of you will be a miserable person. Especially if you are inducing injuries the whole time you try to get your joy.

Good thing is you can recover from addiction and you can freshen your brains response to things.

Take a break, choose diverse distractions, interact with other human beings, work for your dopamine fixes instead of expecting it at each and every click and key press.

Stay healthy Champions Online.

cyrone · March 2013

In before Jaybezz!

#TelepathyNow!

:biggrin:

But to be completely honest, not happy with the way the game has gone.

Though I do feel a lot better with other things since my computer is still in UK. Back in warm weather and sunshine with my kids means more Nerf wars in the backyard. Nerf guns, swords and shields. My kiddos can get vicious.

flyingfinn · March 2013

flamingbunnyman · March 2013

flyingfinn wrote: »

This.

I could be happier, but I am not unhappy.

roughbearmattach · March 2013

Likewise, I hope for more, but I'm not unhappy.

cornivic · March 2013

Nope, I am not unhappy, if this games dies then I will be

This game is still one of the best game ever made, it just have nothing new do.

theravenforce · March 2013

cyrone wrote: »

In before Jaybezz!

#TelepathyNow!

:biggrin:

But to be completely honest, not happy with the way the game has gone.

Though I do feel a lot better with other things since my computer is still in UK. Back in warm weather and sunshine with my kids means more Nerf wars in the backyard. Nerf guns, swords and shields. My kiddos can get vicious.

XD:biggrin:

#TelepathyRightHereRightNOW!

I envy your warm weather...its freezing and wet over here...nothings changed much like the state of telepathy >_>

I'm saddened at not being able to play a hero I wanted to play, my way, like the game advertised..

Not being able to play your main for half a year so far...is sort of depressing.

BUT having said that, I am not unhappy with CO as a game, it has so much potential, I think it will have a long time getting there though. I'm sure if some money was pumped into this game...I don't even know what it would be like, but as it stands, I am able to enjoy content with new concept builds, get beaten to death in PvP and RP effectively, so I am just fine ^^ (except for the large and extremely heavy psychic supression units clamped onto my main character Mentella..Q_Q..T^T...T________________T)

astarth26 · March 2013

"3. Cut Scenes You Can?t Skip

Cinematic breaks can be a powerful tool for developers when used right. They add story and flair that couldn?t be added with the player in control. However, as a gamer I should have the right to skip it if I want to. Especially if I am replaying the game for a second time and know exactly what?s going to happen in the cut scene even before it plays. This is a feature that can ruin the excitement of gaming and destroy any chances for replay value..."

Found at: http://leviathyn.com/games/editorials/2012/04/23/why-did-they-add-that-10-terrible-game-features/?utm_source=zergnet.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=zergnet_21907

Let us skip cut scenes from alerts and comic series, please.

smoochan · March 2013

kemmicals · March 2013

I think I'm perfectly content with what I have now.

cascadence · March 2013

I am quite happy with the game, that's why I am still in here playing it right?

zahinder · March 2013

I'm very unhappy with the game. I love the game but can't bear to play it -- I feel utterly bored within minutes every time I log in.

So 'get out of the chair' doesn't really apply -- I'm not in it.

I just keep holding out wan hope that by some miracle PWE takes an interest again and we see CO Foundry.

Sigh.

gandales · March 2013

It is not so much different from when your favorite sport team is having a bad season and you think it is team coach/owner's fault.

Some take it harder than others.

gamehobo · March 2013

HA.. none of you were at my Superbowl Party. If you were you'd know that have enough visceral energy to last for ages.

I also warn you to beware internet forum psychologists giving medical advice.

Also, YES i am very UNHAPPY with Champions Online. Get used to hearing it until they either fix forum ignore features or give me #TelepathyNow

visionstorm01 · March 2013

nextnametaken wrote: »

Take a break, choose diverse distractions, interact with other human beings, work for your dopamine fixes instead of expecting it at each and every click and key press.

This is exactly what I've been doing for like a year now. Still doesn't change how I feel about this game in particular or the fact that there's no other online RPG out there that offers the same level of customization that originally made me make this game my home. So I now I can't get that fix here or anywhere else.

And to top it off Cryptic made sure they had their WORST character models and customization options on their next upcoming game and STO doesn't quite do it for me* so there is no hope.

*plus my character keeps advancing with DOFF missions alone and I have no clue what to do anytime I log cuz I've already outleveled every mish I had and don't have the gear or knowledge the world to know where to go next or the resources to buy new level appropriate gear

sigmaseven0 · March 2013

I'm loosing interest, but my LTS compels me to keep tabs on this game more than i would otherwise.

If i was a subscriber or silver i would have walked away by now. Currently, i only play when a new event happens. Also the build i like the most at the moment is stuck in limbo because he needs the telepathy review to be complete.

smoochan · March 2013

zahinder wrote: »

I'm very unhappy with the game. I love the game but can't bear to play it -- I feel utterly bored within minutes every time I log in.

So 'get out of the chair' doesn't really apply -- I'm not in it.

I just keep holding out wan hope that by some miracle PWE takes an interest again and we see CO Foundry.

Sigh.

That happened to me. I took a long break, came back, and despite the lack of any real additions to the game managed to start having fun again. I'm sure I'll end up taking a break again... but hey, that's the best part about a casual friendly game isn't it?

If you take a break from something like WoW... well, when you come back, everyone's like 3 tiers ahead of you and you have to play catchup. Not here!

malvou · March 2013

I will say that my fun has dwindled down once I've seen and done everything, but it's fun to build new characters and such.

roughbearmattach · March 2013

Yep--it is still a great casual game.

kallaniden · March 2013

Oh, don't get me started on this. I could go all night.

blumoon8 · March 2013

I was at that state and that's why I stopped playing regularly. I believed in the spirit of Champs more than anything else but as you that spirit get underfed it kind of makes you sad... I have no doubts that they can turn it around but there's still a couple of rough months ahead I think before we see new shinies. For now... we just aren't good for each other! ;~; *runs off into the rain*

Also anyone else noticed a new guy rules the coup? No wonder there was all that silence at the end of last year. Internal restructuring indeed...

kojirohellfire · March 2013

It's depressing, having come here after my game of choice had a bridge dropped on it and recognizing it has potential to be just as great as that other game, but the developers just aren't bothering.

tskales · March 2013

I enjoy this game immensely.

Most MMOs are rubbish, and tend to be sword and sorcery WoW knock offs, whereas Champions is unique and currently two of a kind along with DCUO. It actually surpasses it's only competition in most areas, and truly embarrasses it in some.

This game could be a huge success, but Cryptic seemingly wants to kill it, and that makes me unhappy.

zahinder · March 2013

gandales wrote: »

It is not so much different from when your favorite sport team is having a bad season and you think it is team coach/owner's fault.

Some take it harder than others.

'a bad season'?

It's more like a team that has some players you really like, but has consistently been underutilized and poorly supported from the beginning. And over the last few seasons it's clear the owners are devoting all of their energies into other teams they own.

You long gave up your season tickets, going to any of the home games, and now can't even bear to watch the bungles on local news channel.

You keep hoping that maybe they'll build that new stadium they keep promising, but it's been years. The stadium isn't coming.

rexcelestis · March 2013

Over three years into it, I'm happy with CO. I came here after being unsatisfied with CoH and have enjoyed hours of fun game play and excellent RP in this environment.

Could I be happier? Who knows? I think there remains a lot of untapped ideas and potential here. Still, I am enjoying what I have.
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jennymachx · March 2013

kallaniden · March 2013

One of the many gripes I have with the game is that certain content has been lost due to this On Alert crap. I want the Gladiator shoulders, dammit. >:C

keikomyst · March 2013

jennymachx wrote: »

This is it. This is the Telepathy pass.

gingervitos · March 2013

I dont have a cardboard box stealth device so this game sucks for me.

gamehobo · March 2013

keikomyst wrote: »

This is it. This is the Telepathy pass.

This made me giggle in my best LaToya Jackson voice.. tee her

ashensnow · March 2013

jennymachx wrote: »

And the, "BS," mentioned there does not refer to a degree.

chalupaoffury · March 2013

Nope. This game rocks.

I don't even like mmos and I've dumped a stupid amount of money into this one. I'll be here, off and on, until it dies.

chaelk · March 2013

Nope, 60 characters and counting and from a RP perspective, I mean characters literally, unfortunately in both senses of the word.

fantasy MMO's... YAAAAAWWWWWWWWNNNn. same as.

same people, same classes. same enemies, same grind, though nobody grinds quite like *********.

Think I got most of the speeling mistakes

lucyinspacewithdiamonds · March 2013

lulz

I don't see how an "advice thread" on how to cope with "depression" in CO can be anything more than useless. But I agree with smoochy again, finally. :P I would quote it but I'm too lazy. :P

jennymachx wrote: »

OMG Telepathy so OP! NOOB!

nextnametaken · March 2013

Lets say there was part of your body that was really sensitive and fun to touch and you stay at home touching it hour after hour until it is raw swollen and bleeding.

Your hypothalamus is that tiny sensitive organ. Stress hormones and immune system cells rub it raw and squeeze the life out of it. This is known from just the last ten years of research.

Your brain constantly saying in one part "This should be pleasure" and saying "i'm so bored and frustrated" in another part causes a stress response, which means a flood of immune system cells, just like a allergic reaction.

So, in the case here, you go to the forums and complain that the product that you touched yourself to bleeding enflamed agony with is the problem.

Its Cryptic's fault. Its the fault of players who chat ban you, quit alerts, clone a costume, ERP in your ear, charge too much for Purple Gang Tommy Guns, because you pay them its not your fault that you are unhappy, whatever.

Its always someone else's fault.

kojirohellfire · March 2013

Now he's a pretend biologist too.

bwdares · March 2013

I don't see much of a future for this game. I currently play it due to my RP SG, if it wasn't for them i would be gone.

I tire of the lockboxes, non-permenant contect, no new powers or zones.

While I did love the Lemurian event on test where it felt like our voices were heard, it was all undone by the horrible Ask Cryptic. One step forward, two steps back.

Unless we get Devs back after Neverwinter I dont see a great future for CO. It'll just be more and more talk with crap content.

It took till March to get the Lemurian Invasion completed, and in all honesty it you take the time verse what we have to actually play...it is just crap. One mission worth doing.

I love this game, I just hate seeing how it has been treated, and I don't really care for what is coming-from what Cryptic has said.

crypticarmsman · March 2013

1) I do think the CO Dev team is a bunch of hard working folks, doing their best to keep CO going with the Dev and financial resources budgeted to them by PWE/Cryptic.

2) I still think this MMO has a lot of untapped potential that may or may not be able to be somewhat realized based on PWE and Cryptic resource allocation - but at the current level of resource allocation, I don't think this MMO can be expanded on very much.

3) I disagree with the idea of having 'rotating content' as this game (after 3 1/2 years is STILL very light of unique mission content - any new content missions or storylines added would serve this game better if they were permanent (always available in some form) to the CO playerbase (the more variety, the slower bordem/burnouty will set in for the casual player (IMO).

but, my LARGEST dissapointment:

4) I am VERY disappointed no real/substantive effort has yet been made or even approved by PWE/Cryptic to make their Foundry system available to the Champions Online software codebase.

(And I guess I do not understand why Cryptic/PWE upper management won't even consider a temporary boost of the CO Dev team's size to accomplish this; given that Cryptic/PWE touts 'The Foundry'(tm) as a 'conerstone' of their MMOs, along with character appearance customization. Th fact that Cryptic/PWE management have taken this stance with CO is what, more than anything else, leads me to believe CO - even with all the work the CO Dev team is doing - has one foot in the maintenance mode/soon to sunset 'grave' as it were. <---- And I really wish I didn't believe this was the case, but PWE/Cryptic management and resource allocation actions with regard to CO point to this (IMO)).

nepht · March 2013

I find this game fun and in the end thats all that matters for anyone. Do you find the game your playing fun?

bioshrike · March 2013

crypticarmsman wrote:

3) I disagree with the idea of having 'rotating content' as this game (after 3 1/2 years is STILL very light of unique mission content - any new content missions or storylines added would serve this game better if they were permanent (always available in some form) to the CO playerbase (the more variety, the slower bordem/burnouty will set in for the casual player (IMO).

I wholeheartedly agree with this - make *all* the new stuff accessible at any time. You want to have a little bonus for doing certain ones at certain times, fine, but perhaps I want to run Nighthawk over and over again... so why not let me?

smoochan · March 2013

bwdares wrote: »

I don't see much of a future for me playing this game.[...]

Fixed. I know we're all industry experts but let's pretend for a moment that we're not.

zahinder · March 2013

crypticarmsman wrote: »

4) I am VERY disappointed no real/substantive effort has yet been made or even approved by PWE/Cryptic to make their Foundry system available to the Champions Online software codebase.

So agreed. SOOO agreed.

Because the ability to make such diverse-looking characters with diverse powersets blows the doors off the possibilities of Foundry. Heck, even if you put in some rather stock maps and limited customization of maps, the sheer range of what characters can be gives you MASSIVE flexibility you don't have in STO (or, presumably, NW, though I haven't betad it yet).

I mean, you can have the Vulture robots with red military uniforms fighting plant elves while allied to the rhino beetle psychic astronauts from Mars when suddenly shadow demons attack on their fire clouds with 50s noir thugs backing them up.

I mean. MAN.

crypticbuxom · March 2013

I think that is the biggest reason why we don't have the Foundry. There is so much customization in the game already that if it had the Foundry to back it up, it would take customers from their other game titles that they rather make money with.

zahinder · March 2013

Eh, I think it more comes down to devotion of resources. I would hazard that the codebase of CO would take a lot of tinkering to integrate Foundry into it, plus it would take a lot of development energy to think of how to work with such an open range of options, lots of high level decisions, etc.

smoochan · March 2013

crypticbuxom wrote: »

I think that is the biggest reason why we don't have the Foundry. There is so much customization in the game already that if it had the Foundry to back it up, it would take customers from their other game titles that they rather make money with.

You can't spell customers without custom.

What? You can't.

fr0gurt · March 2013

Boy, I love this MMO. Sure the updates are non-existent and the content is stale. The executive producer is M.I.A. and the clientele are neurotic. The game engine is outdated and the bugs haven't been fixed in years. The lockboxes suck and the powers are unbalanced. But, gosh darn it, Champions Online is still my favorite hangout in all of the Internetz!

bwdares · March 2013

smoochan wrote: »

Fixed. I know we're all industry experts but let's pretend for a moment that we're not.

Who are you to say what my opinion is? I said what I said because it is my opinion. I don't see much of a future for this game. Cryptic has given us little reason to expect much for it.

I will be happy to be proven wrong, but with PWE at the helm I doubt that will happen.

kenpojujitsu3 · March 2013

nextnametaken wrote: »

Are you unhappy with Champions Online?

No

iceih03 · March 2013

crypticbuxom wrote: »

I think that is the biggest reason why we don't have the Foundry. There is so much customization in the game already that if it had the Foundry to back it up, it would take customers from their other game titles that they rather make money with.

I do not think the problem comes from that way, I do not think the investors really care if money comes from CO, STO or NW. I think that with the level of customization CO offers adding the foundry they are opening the door to unlimited IP problems. I have seen level 25 hu1k huklk and so on, it proves it is not possible to stop players at low levels. Imagine if they are NPCs created in the foundry or even the mission stories copied from other IP, it would be impossible to track them all. With STO and NW it is easier the game environment itself keeps you inside those universes, with CO those limits are all easily broken.

iceih03 · March 2013

nextnametaken wrote: »

Did you have high hopes and bright feelings in your heart for this game?
Are those feelings gone?
Do you feel let down, mad, sad, anxious and generally uneasy about the present state and future of the game?

I m happy with the game, it is a game that lets me play with my imagination powered by the CO lore and mechanic, this is something no other game offers.

crypticbuxom · March 2013

iceih03 wrote: »

I do not think the problem comes from that way, I do not think the investors really care if money comes from CO, STO or NW. I think that with the level of customization CO offers adding the foundry they are opening the door to unlimited IP problems. I have seen level 25 hu1k huklk and so on, it proves it is not possible to stop players at low levels. Imagine if they are NPCs created in the foundry or even the mission stories copied from other IP, it would be impossible to track them all. With STO and NW it is easier the game environment itself keeps you inside those universes, with CO those limits are all easily broken.

The problem with this argument is that it would require gold to make Foundry missions. And anyone who intentionally infringes on other IPs using the system can easily be banned from its use. That would eliminate at least 99% of those people. The other 1% is players who are dedicated to reporting Foundry missions and all those reports go to a real person to review. That's how it works in STO and NWO so far.

Also to make Foundry missions you have to agree to a terms of use that is slightly different then the regular one to play the game. Violate this and you can risk the termination of your account.

Are you unhappy with Champions Online?

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