Do People Do Unity Missions Anymore?

jaazaniah1 · July 2016

Just curious if anyone still does these? There was a lot of talk when they boosted the price of Heroics and reduced the Unity SCR amounts that these would die off. I know that I don't do them anymore. What about others? I kind of wish they would revisit them; i.e. make them tougher and add some decent rewards.

xacchaeus · July 2016

nope, once revamp was done i quit them

avianos · July 2016

I had been doing them almost every day
but since they NERFED the SCR rewards, i gave up!
they are a waste of time and this NERF downgrades them even more

deadman20 · July 2016

I've stopped UNITY missions myself, though for different reasons than the above. I may or may not reconsider them, I don't know.

championshewolf · July 2016

I stopped doing them ages ago because I was bored of them. SCR rewards barely made me play them when they came,a nd nothings really changed about my feelings towards them.

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pantagruel01 · July 2016

Nope; UNITY hotspot missions are toxic, I'm not going to put up with that for a measly 1 scr.

On the other hand, is it really a problem that people stop doing UNITY? There are some cool dailies, but the rest of it is horrible.

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pantagruel01 · July 2016

bluegrassbeast said:
It proves that the current design philosophy is toxic and wrong.

UNITY missions date back to launch. They've always been horrible.

markhawkman · July 2016

I dunno... 12 scr for easy non-Unity dailies was a lot when the SCR gear was 30 scr, even at 150 its' affordable.

What are the unity things anyways? I never bothered with them.

themightyzenith · July 2016

I stopped doing them when they nerfed the rewards.

jaazaniah1 · July 2016

OK. So it's as I thought. Dead content, apparently by dev intent/design, since they should have understood what would happen if they made running them not worth very much.

Maybe since the devs are at least partially focused on repackaging old/existing resources for team play maybe they will do something similar with the old Unity missions. E.g. make them tougher/more interesting and make them for teams of 2-3. It'd be cool if Nemeses could show up in revamped Unity missions.

sanguineviper · July 2016

Considering how many thousands of times I've run unity since launch, I'd love to redesign them. But now, more than ever, they are totally a waste of time for any normal person.

I still run them, but only because I have to gear all of my characters with at least heroic R5 and L40 purple secondaries before I allow myself to continue on to another character. 44 characters geared at least heroic level or higher so far. Working pointlessly on my 45th 40's gear now. And sadly, doing cosmics or TA runs is not really an option for grinding out the tokens because they require other people to do and are heavily time constrained in the case of cosmics.

So in the end, i will continue grinding UNITY and UNITY2 every day on several characters as long as I need to gear new level 40s. No matter how terrible and un-fun it is, because it's still the only real way to consistently get an even remotely worthwhile number of tokens on a daily basis compared to the ~500 or so I need every time I make a new alt now.

spinnytop · July 2016

I do them when I need a few SCR and I feel like getting them through lightweight content. The main reason I don't do Unity missions much anymore is because they're quite frankly very boring, like most of the ezmode content in the game.

jaazaniah1 said:
OK. So it's as I thought. Dead content

You're basing this on a handful of forum responses? I get the feeling you started this thread already having made up your mind about what the answer would be.

pantagruel01 · July 2016

sanguineviper said:
And sadly, doing cosmics or TA runs is not really an option for grinding out the tokens because they require other people to do and are heavily time constrained in the case of cosmics.

UNITY dailies may still be faster than adventure packs (which seem to give 10 SCR), though I think steel crusade parts 1-3 are faster than UNITY and alert dailies are certainly faster.

sanguineviper · July 2016

pantagruel01 said:

UNITY dailies may still be faster than adventure packs (which seem to give 10 SCR), though I think steel crusade parts 1-3 are faster than UNITY and alert dailies are certainly faster.

Depends on the daily really for the alerts. Getting stuck with APB or Bursts on a day is a "may as well just skip it". Trying to get 9 bursts to pop in a single online session would be a miracle without getting together a pre-made group. Which just goes back to requiring a group to get the tokens. I really wish we could solo or even partial-group private-queue for regular alerts. Since I tend to be online when there are like 50 people total online.

markhawkman · July 2016

sanguineviper said:

pantagruel01 said:

UNITY dailies may still be faster than adventure packs (which seem to give 10 SCR), though I think steel crusade parts 1-3 are faster than UNITY and alert dailies are certainly faster.
Depends on the daily really for the alerts. Getting stuck with APB or Bursts on a day is a "may as well just skip it". Trying to get 9 bursts to pop in a single online session would be a miracle without getting together a pre-made group. Which just goes back to requiring a group to get the tokens. I really wish we could solo or even partial-group private-queue for regular alerts. Since I tend to be online when there are like 50 people total online.

I do those while running Heat Wave. It's a REALLY boring daily, but it's quick, and I get both 2scr, and 500q for Heat Wave. More importantly, it doesn't really matter how often I get interrupted mid-mission.

Also... you can put together a premade team then have the team leader queue for an Alert. It should pull in the entire team.

had2merge · July 2016

I run the Unity mission still each day. Love using the teleporter in the Unity building to get to the starting mission fast. Love it reminds me of the areas that I don't frequent as much, unless I am leveling a new toon.
Also Unity 2 is sweet for me. I get atleast 1 costume drop from the Vibora Bay mob that you have to deal with in that chain for the day. Also all of the missions for Unity 2 are in 1 spot. No teleporting to other zones.
Simple.
Soloable.
To me, it fits my playstyle.

beerbane · July 2016

Aside from the travel component, I generally enjoyed running UNITY stuff but stopped when the rewards/prices changed. I'd love if they revisited this content, preferably if they allowed you to teleport to the mission locales from the UNITY building itself (a la Cosmic hunting teleports provided from the new contact by Defender).

captainhunter1 · July 2016

Crypticarkane mentioned some time ago they were considering a refresh/revamp of the UNITY content.

This is what I suggested: arcgames.com/en/forums/championsonline/#/discussion/1204599/upcoming-unity-refresh-revamp

skig201 · July 2016

I do them occasionally if I don't feel like levelling my alts but still want something to do. Certainly don't do them with SCR in mind.

reiwulf · July 2016

I think I did them like once or twice, years ago.

jaazaniah1 · July 2016

So far I've only seen two people who said they still did them, and that was reluctantly and for lack of something else to do. No, this is not a scientific poll, but if someone really loved them I'd expect some sort of response to that effect.

spinnytop said:
I do them when I need a few SCR and I feel like getting them through lightweight content. The main reason I don't do Unity missions much anymore is because they're quite frankly very boring, like most of the ezmode content in the game.

jaazaniah1 said:
OK. So it's as I thought. Dead content
You're basing this on a handful of forum responses? I get the feeling you started this thread already having made up your mind about what the answer would be.

aesica · July 2016

Pretty much like nearly everyone else here, I did them back when they gave meaningful rewards. Now they're a waste of time, just like the heroic gear they once helped people acquire. I thought it was nice to have an excuse to go out into the actual game world to work toward a relevant reward, but now the only real reasons to go out in the world as a level 40 are 1) nemesis quests or 2) as part of the cosmic club.

RIP Unity dailies. Long live the almighty alerts!

beezeeze · July 2016

Not often but not because of the SCR changes. I really only bothered getting a full set of heroics on two or three of my characters and that was a long time ago. Nowadays I have plenty of merc gear or legion gear sitting in my personal bank that I could use in a pinch if I felt it was required.

captainhunter1 · July 2016

jaazaniah1 said:
So far I've only seen two people who said they still did them, and that was reluctantly and for lack of something else to do. No, this is not a scientific poll, but if someone really loved them I'd expect some sort of response to that effect.

To tell the truth, I really like the UNITY system. If I didn't, I wouldn't have put so much effort into feedback about them (see sig). It's very well set up for end game fun. Rewards on the other hand...again, see sig.

chaelk · July 2016

still doing them when i feel like it. nothing much i want to buy.mind you, same goes for alert dailies. nothing much there i want to buy either
I don't know about unity 1 being horrible. I'd say really easy. UNITY 2 is the annoying one.

pwestolemyname · July 2016

I ranted about this a couple times before and predicted their downfall. I used to do them nearly every time I logged in for the SCR. They have always been awful. Boring, disconnected, lacking in story, and way way way too much travel. Between the nerf to their SCR and the addition of SCR to the Alert dailies, there is utterly no reason to run them.

spinnytop · July 2016

jaazaniah1 said:
So far I've only seen two people who said they still did them

Sure, and if I went inside a small room with Tila Tequila, B.o.B, and Niel Degrasse Tyson and asked everyone who thinks the earth is flat to raise their hands, I'd have proof that two thirds of the global population believes the earth is flat.

thelastsonofzod · July 2016

I just wanted to chime in and say I don't do UNITY anymore. It used to be the final step in leveling alts, getting them basic heroic gear, but now I just don't bother. I slap merc gear on them and call it done. Revamping Heroics pricing was a horrible, horrible idea.

themightyzenith · July 2016

spinnytop said:
Sure, and if I went inside a small room with Tila Tequila, B.o.B, and Niel Degrasse Tyson......

I always knew the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants would reform one day.

championshewolf · July 2016

The fact that people that think old dead content not being run was the result of the price changes seem a tad off. The old dead content wasn't run because it wasn't fun. Price changes had little to do with it. I know I didn't run them more than I had to even with the lower prices. They just aren't fun, never were, and there were still easier ways to get SCR. before the hike.

jaazaniah1 · July 2016

It'd be nice if you at least acknowledged that I said this was not a scientific poll. Context is everything.

spinnytop said:

jaazaniah1 said:
So far I've only seen two people who said they still did them
Sure, and if I went inside a small room with Tila Tequila, B.o.B, and Niel Degrasse Tyson and asked everyone who thinks the earth is flat to raise their hands, I'd have proof that two thirds of the global population believes the earth is flat.

themightyzenith · July 2016

championshewolf said:
The fact that people that think old dead content not being run was the result of the price changes seem a tad off. The old dead content wasn't run because it wasn't fun. Price changes had little to do with it. I know I didn't run them more than I had to even with the lower prices. They just aren't fun, never were, and there were still easier ways to get SCR. before the hike.

Some people are saying that they are not doing these missions because of the price changes and lowered rewards. They are saying that it has everything to do with their choice not to bother with them..

xacchaeus · July 2016

i ran them almost every morning despite them being a slog... when they raised prices and lowered rewards i quit running them... how is that a "tad off"?

spinnytop · July 2016

themightyzenith said:

Some people are saying that they are not doing these missions because of the price changes and lowered rewards. They are saying that it has everything to do with their choice not to bother with them..

Which means they weren't running those missions because they were fun, they were running them because they were the best source of currency for their needs.

jaazaniah1 said:
It'd be nice if you at least acknowledged that I said this was not a scientific poll. Context is everything.

Then why bother making deductions such as "Ah it's as I thought! The content is dead!" if you're then going to claim that you weren't trying to make any deductions to begin with.

themightyzenith · July 2016

spinnytop said:

themightyzenith said:

Some people are saying that they are not doing these missions because of the price changes and lowered rewards. They are saying that it has everything to do with their choice not to bother with them..
Which means they weren't running those missions because they were fun, they were running them because they were the best source of currency for their needs.

I can only speak for myself and won't put words in other people's mouths, but I was running them because I wanted the costume parts I could reasonably get from doing them. They were as much fun for me as most missions (apart from trying to find cave entrances in Lemuria). When they added more costume unlocks I was stoked until I saw the price hike and lowered rewards which in turn convinced me to get my fun elsewhere.

jaazaniah1 · July 2016

Because even in a non-scientific survey, open to anyone on the forums, I'd expect to see some positive response if there were people who like them as is. I'm not seeing anyone saying they really like them.

spinnytop said:

Then why bother making deductions such as "Ah it's as I thought! The content is dead!" if you're then going to claim that you weren't trying to make any deductions to begin with.

pantagruel01 · July 2016

I used to run them for SCR. I'd mostly stopped significantly before the changes (though I didn't stop totally until the reward changes), because they're really "run to some location in the world and enter a random warehouse mission where you have to Defeat N mobs or interact with N glowies". Some of the unity special dailies are decent, but all of them hotspots are trash.

canadascott · July 2016

I run them occasionally when I need something low-stress and relaxing. Never went to Unity2 -- once I saw that "run around and mix potions" mission, I had a bad WoW flashback and refused to do it.

spinnytop · July 2016

jaazaniah1 said:
Because even in a non-scientific survey, open to anyone on the forums, I'd expect to see some positive response if there were people who like them as is. I'm not seeing anyone saying they really like them.

So great, you did a very accurate survey about how the people who visit the forums and decided to respond in your thread feel about those missions. You didn't really do a survey that allows you to deduce whether any content is dead or not though, but you're free to pretend you did.

biffsmackwell · July 2016

spinnytop said:
So great, you did a very accurate survey about how the people who visit the forums and decided to respond in your thread feel about those missions. You didn't really do a survey that allows you to deduce whether any content is dead or not though, but you're free to pretend you did.

So touchy. You're arguing against him so hard just because he thought the content was dead and most people who answered the question answered it the way he thought they would. It's not like the developers are planning to remove the content or shut the game down based on this thread's results. You seem to be giving it that amount of importance.

On topic, I started doing UNITY when On Alert launched, and thought it was great. I ran them hrough to the special assignments every day on a handful of characters, alternating from day to day because I didn't have that much time each night. Anyway, that lasted for maybe a month, until I grew real tired of all but one of the special assignments.

From then on, I would wait for the selection of dailies to be the ones that lead to the Cazulon special assignment, take that on my handful of characters, finish the time-based missions right away and save the rest of the missions to complete them over the course of the week.

That lasted maybe another month or so, and then I stopped doing them completely unless I needed a few more tokens to buy a set of gear.

After the price hike, reward nerf, and gear changes, making them BoP so I can't trade them, I lost all interest in running them altogether. I'd rather wait a few hours and fight one cosmic than do all these missions to get a few silver tokens. It's just not worth my time, and my time is worthless!

beerbane · July 2016

themightyzenith said:

spinnytop said:

themightyzenith said:

Some people are saying that they are not doing these missions because of the price changes and lowered rewards. They are saying that it has everything to do with their choice not to bother with them..
Which means they weren't running those missions because they were fun, they were running them because they were the best source of currency for their needs.
I can only speak for myself and won't put words in other people's mouths, but I was running them because I wanted the costume parts I could reasonably get from doing them. They were as much fun for me as most missions (apart from trying to find cave entrances in Lemuria). When they added more costume unlocks I was stoked until I saw the price hike and lowered rewards which in turn convinced me to get my fun elsewhere.

So much this. I enjoyed the UNITY missions (despite bad entrances and travel ) because I was working towards costume unlocks as well as gear for my new 40s. I honestly really liked the maps and the idea of global trouble-shooting. The pricing changes turned them from a downtime/alt activity into a grind that made me no longer enjoy them. Now I do Alert dailies for Vigilance and SCR. I'm hoping UNITY can get a facelift like Cosmic Hunting did - arguments of difficulty for said content notwithstanding, it feels good to be sent out into the larger world and fight stuff outside of an Alert instance.

jaazaniah1 · July 2016

Exactly. I knew I wasn't doing them, and, being pretty average, I wondered if this was the same for other players who use the forums. Of course, asking anything here is not going to be based on a systematic random sample of a population.

biffsmackwell said:

spinnytop said:
So great, you did a very accurate survey about how the people who visit the forums and decided to respond in your thread feel about those missions. You didn't really do a survey that allows you to deduce whether any content is dead or not though, but you're free to pretend you did.
So touchy. You're arguing against him so hard just because he thought the content was dead and most people who answered the question answered it the way he thought they would. It's not like the developers are planning to remove the content or shut the game down based on this thread's results. You seem to be giving it that amount of importance.

magpieuk2014 · July 2016

I don't really bother with UNITY any more. I like the daily special missions (although they need a little bit of toughening up) and I think it has great potential to be a post-level 40 hub, but the basic content's not hugely entertaining and ultimately the price hikes for Heroic Gear and the new direction of end-game content makes the whole thing feel like a grind without a purpose.

theravenforce · July 2016

I've recently been searching for non-repeatable content to run and I've finished UNITY 1 & all four possible routes for UNITY 2 (Quest of the Elements - Earth, Fire, Soul & Chaos).

The missions are different from the other stuff and most have very very nice maps which I enjoy walking through. The rewards thing is a shame but I am sure the content is still run.

embracemysword · July 2016

Spinny, take your ritalin and idk.. give us a break. Or have a Snickers.

On topic: I stopped doing the missions because of the bad rewards.

spinnytop · July 2016

jaazaniah1 said:
Exactly. I knew I wasn't doing them, and, being pretty average, I wondered if this was the same for other players who use the forums. Of course, asking anything here is not going to be based on a systematic random sample of a population.

Good. At least you realize that it's silly to proclaim the content dead.

darqaura2 · July 2016

spinnytop said:

jaazaniah1 said:
Exactly. I knew I wasn't doing them, and, being pretty average, I wondered if this was the same for other players who use the forums. Of course, asking anything here is not going to be based on a systematic random sample of a population.
Good. At least you realize that it's silly to proclaim the content dead.

Except in this instance it is dead. Dead as in it's old content that hasn't been reviewed or revamped in God knows how long. It certainly would have been nice if the whole SCR and GCR revamp would have been accompanied with a major content revamp. But it wasn't. However, again, that content is not dead because of the rewards changes. The content is dead because its craptacular content that hasn't been revised to be more modern in years. Full stop.

The content (and generally most content in CO) needs a revamp. Most MMOs do this to keep the game fresh, at least one time past that content's prime.

Unfortunately CO doesn't have the funding to do that.

guyhumual · July 2016

UNITY is dead and the SCR revamp killed them. Most players have no idea about UNITY and they'll be badly disappointed if they find out.

Do People Do Unity Missions Anymore?

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