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Not being able to create comic book character from marvel or dc?
brayansummers
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i heard it when i first joined the game from a random person that u can't create these kind of characters or they'll ban you, is that true? and why? i mean we create marvel/dc inspired characters in games, it's obviously what people like to do, recreate what we like.
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If you make a DC or Marvel character, you should thank Cryptic if they ban you. They're saving themselves, their game, and your ability to play the game.
They won't actually ban you, though. At least not for a first offense. They'll force name change your characters, though.
And since Co such amazing features to create a hero of your own, why copy some mediocre ones.
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Here's a somewhat ironic tale related to this subject, though, because I dabbled in imitation some, myself. Back in late 2012, early 2013, I had first really become a big Rocket Raccoon fan - in no small part inspired by participating in the Beta forums for Marvel Heroes. But Marvel Heroes had very, very limited Closed Beta testing windows (a couple hours a few times a week, at most) and Rocket wasn't even added until eight months after I started the Beta. My anticipation for playing Rocket in the future on that game and my energy of being a fan had to go somewhere (Rocket wasn't in every single Marvel game yet back then - only UMvC3, which I didn't have), so I made an attempt to make him on Champions Online. Fortunately for me (it avoided "generic"ing), the best I could approximate with available costume parts was a small werewolf-looking creature.
Years later, last anniversary, they introduced the raccoon costume parts. Now, I could make a proper raccoon character... but I realized making Rocket with those parts would be too on the mark and would get me in trouble. Plus, I had a raccoon character of my own in my writing, it would allow more freedom and be safer to make him - but when I had trouble fitting my lore for the character with the Champions setting, I just flat out made him a character completely originally written for this setting: Leo Crawford Wyld (although I did borrow some elements of the character form my writing). I wanted to emphasize his being a distinct raccoon character that isn't Rocket. He's gray, not brown. He's human-sized, not the tiny size of Rocket. No guns, he attacks with claws and now an electric guitar. I go out of my way to make his costume aesthetics be unlike what Rocket has worn (and I would know). LCW is a raccoon, in reality and self-identified as such, and not an alien that looks exactly like one. Wrote a full backstory over on PRIMUS database, even.
Irony... Many people didn't get Rocket when I was trying to make him with those werewolf parts. Now I have an original raccoon character - almost everyone thinks it is Rocket Raccoon. It is frustrating but I guess if you were a procyonid superhero, it would be a problem you'd often encounter. So yay for realism?
I thought I had a good point here, but I think I lost it somewhere. Hmm. I guess it is, I've enjoyed trying to create an original hero more than trying to copy an existing one. But also, despite intentions, that you can try to copy and do such a bad job at it that no one notices. You can also work hard to make something original and have people think you are copying because of a shared detail. Heh. It's funny how things work, I guess.
and it's not only about DC and Marvel, creating any clone from licensed franchise is against the Term of Services
The last thing we want is for CO to get sued, that would be a disaster, so don't create clones that violate copyrights- PERIOD
This game is about creating your own Characters, NOT Blatantly copying licensed properties and walking around with clones of Superman and Batman
If you want to make a super strong guy who flys around. Go for it. Homage characters are fine. Just be careful to not exactly match the original in name and likeness.
But if you make his costume an excact copy of Superman's and then name that character xxSupermanxx. Well, you'll probably log into later to find that costume wiped and your character forcibly renamed.
You can do "inspired by", as long as you don't do imitations; you can also do parodies, which are protected under copyright law (that's why I have Captain Americlown, Spider-Bat, and Weapon Xmas, who have "similar but different" costumes from their inspirations and very different backstories - Weapon Xmas, for instance, was created by Grandfather Winter's elves as a backup for the Krampus). But if you clone, as soon as the Powers What Is become aware your character will be genericed (placed in blue jeans and white T-shirt) and badnamed (name changed to Badname #(whatever the number is up to these days)). Repeated violations can lead to a ban.
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But blue tights and red boots with a red cape named: Super Kent. Is a clone.
Someone in red tights and blue boots named Super Kent...not a clone.
Sometimes it’s silly switches...but if you try to make Superman and name him something different, it’s still Superman
My hero's origin indirectly ties to Moreau, as well. Heh. But to a former assistant of his that I invented for the sake of my story, Hemming Franz, who went off on his own to create his own lab after discovering some alien tech. Haven't had Dr. Franz as a nemesis yet, because it feels like something I should work up to after a few lesser nemeses.
Something like this is more acceptable, and be sure to name it something a bit more clever, like "Carmine Crusader":
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CO has put a block on some names to prevent using copyrighted material, but even still some names are public domain and shouldn’t be blocked.
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Well, that is the thing, last time I checked, it gave an error when I tried to change it, the error read: Thisname contains restricted words.
The word is, Rydia. Ry is fine as long as I add something else other than dia after it. Dia is fine as is. But, the second I put in Rydia, it gives that error. Even if I were to seperate Ry and Dia so it would read "Ry Dia", I get that error. Changing the Y to an i gets rid of the error, but, I want the name "Rydia". And, to me, a name is just a name as long as it is your character that has the name is not the copyrighted character. So, I should be able to use this name. But, it is restricted.
Oddly enough, after trying several other Final Fantasy characters, especiall more well known ones, their names can be used. So, why is the name "Rydia", different? Is it a cuss word in some lanugage or something? A slang/slur or something that I don't know about? Why out of all the Final Fantasy characters, is her name the only one restricted?
Such as the costume I gave to my second ever made character, it was updated several times, but, I enjoy it.
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As for Final Fantasy.... a lot of them are just normal people names to Japanese people. Squall, Riku, Rikku, Paine, Yuna? None of them are actually original names. Thus the makers of the FF games can't copyright those NAMES even though they can copyright the characters the names are used for.
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yeah, tell that to konami...leon wilson's cinderella card? finally got released in the TCG - except it's now called prinzessin, not cinderella
Anyway, this game having a list of banned names is a result of their former lawsuit, and they probably have to maintain it as a result of that.
People create inspired characters in CO and it's totally fine. The clones are what earns bans.
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Looks like Rob dun gone did it again. Another example he did was Fighting American. Seriously guys make ripoffs for days, thems fair game... just don't make clones.
True, which is stupid, unless the character's name is of someone that is stupidly popular, it shouldn't be on the list. Though, I do not think any name should be on the list, we players just got to report the very obvious clones. If I see superman, but, he is not clark kent or even remotely looks like superman, than, all is good.
Yeah I don't think that is going to work. They block out names for a reason, and even if it isn't a super popular character they probably just decided to play it safe, also some names might be characters from the Champions pnp and they are blocked from being used in CO incase cryptic ever decides to use that character.
Even super obscure characters in no way related to the super hero genre can get you defaulted. I get the feeling GMs just do a google search and if anything pops up for the character, you're defaulted. Years ago I made a Touhou character and bam, default.
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Except Touhou is in no way shape or form super obscure. Not as well known amongst western groups as final fantasy games, but, well known enough to have a decent sized fan base. Though, I doubt you were connecting the two.
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There's a list of restricted names here; I have no idea how up-to-date it is.
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You gotta throw a Wonder on there to acknowledge the lasso of truth. And possibly a Super?
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