Okay, Spinny, let's get specific. Who exactly was saying that the pricing for Heroic gear was "broken" before, and needed to be "fixed" via a drastic increase? Because I sure don't recall that conversation.
It didn't happen by an official dev thats for sure.
Haha.
(Note : I'm not laughing at your comment but I guess you can understand why it makes me laugh?)
Okay, Spinny, let's get specific. Who exactly was saying that the pricing for Heroic gear was "broken" before, and needed to be "fixed" via a drastic increase? Because I sure don't recall that conversation.
It didn't happen by an official dev thats for sure.
Haha.
(Note : I'm laughing at your comment but I guess you can understand why it makes me laugh?)
Mmhm
Buffing everything to stupid high levels and nerfing everything to piss poor levels yields the same results, but not the same community reactions.
I'm just unwilling to modify the definition of it according to self interest like some people. You know, like people who are happy to point out things that need to be fixed until something they like gets fixed, then suddenly it's not something that needs to be fixed. Right?
Nope, you're just wrong, and sticking your fingers in your ears.
The changes pretty much killed any incentive I have to make alts. Full stop.
That's fine. People who enjoyed making alts because they enjoyed making new characters will continue to do so. People who only made alts to have additional characters to farm stuff on now have the opportunity to analyze what they spend their time doing in game and spend more time doing stuff because they enjoy it, rather than because it's profitable.
Part of the point of making alts, was having other characters that were viable to play all future content they will eventually come out with. The changes made makes that more difficult. Some would argue its not pointless to make alts if that was your goal.
But then again all of my existing toons are already properly geared up as far as they can go without grinding, and prior to the price changes. Really there's no incentive for me to may new toons as the grind is beyond what I would find acceptable.
The game has gotten less alt friendly from the prices and other recent changes they have made.
EDIT: I would also strongly argue changes that make people make less alts ARE NOT fine. People making alts is the lifeblood of CO. There is not enough content coming out for the game to stand on content alone. Without people making alts, there is no point to them buying costumes, which is also one of the lifebloods of this game.
The changes pretty much killed any incentive I have to make alts. Full stop.
That's fine. People who enjoyed making alts because they enjoyed making new characters will continue to do so. People who only made alts to have additional characters to farm stuff on now have the opportunity to analyze what they spend their time doing in game and spend more time doing stuff because they enjoy it, rather than because it's profitable.
Part of the point of making alts, was having other characters that were viable to play all future content they will eventually come out with. The changes made makes that more difficult. Some would argue its not pointless to make alts if that was your goal.
But then again all of my existing toons are already properly geared up as far as they can go without grinding, and prior to the price changes. Really there's no incentive for me to may new toons as the grind is beyond what I would find acceptable.
The game has gotten less alt friendly from the prices and other recent changes they have made.
EDIT: I would also strongly argue changes that make people make less alts ARE NOT fine. People making alts is the lifeblood of CO. There is not enough content coming out for the game to stand on content alone. Without people making alts, there is no point to them buying costumes, which is also one of the lifebloods of this game.
Others are allowed to disagree.
100% Truth, besides the costume thing(partially). I buy packs rarely for existing toons, if I feel the need to for a particular character. I also end up using them on a new toon as well(maybe more than on an existing, if I can't work out that toon's theme with the set.)
Buffing everything to stupid high levels and nerfing everything to piss poor levels yields the same results, but not the same community reactions.
50 rampages is also the same order of magnitude as the number of rampages needed for a piece of justice gear. Why farm heroics again?
Pretty sure this is the point that the "this is fine" squad just keeps on not getting. The time and effort spent in trying to get heroics can be better spent getting even better gear within the same timeframe with a little give and take. It comes off as absurd.
So the change I was lobbying for in the awful Justice grind (revalued tokens that are guaranteed on victory) has instead been used to turn Heroic into an awful grind, while retaining the existing RNG awfulness of the Justice grind?
Maybe Windows Insider Fast Ring instability has been a blessing in disguise. And I say this as somebody who does NOT have altitis.
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The 15 scr for the secondaries being added to the SCR vendor is a reasonable price, the 150 token cost for heroics, 300 for devices, and 975 tokens for costumes and travel powers isn't reasonable.
50-100 scr would be about right if they are determined to raise the prices. The costumes and travel powers should have remained at their original price.
The 975 travel powers staying was a quite stubborn position, and fairly perplexing. I'd guess it has something to do with the high prices of custom, non-default travel powers in the Zen and Q stores.
As to the costumes, the only 975 SCR ones are the ultra-rare drops from Alerts and similar. No way those are coming down.
150 for Heroics, 350 for devices is still high, though, maybe by double - but I guess 100 and 200 or 250 would be better. When getting SCR, it really feels like each mission that has a gain is meaningless. That's how it *feels* anyway - I know I'll be able to purchase something, like...one of these days.
Would be a lot better with the recog transferable... *takes another whack at the zombie horse*
100% Truth, besides the costume thing(partially). I buy packs rarely for existing toons, if I feel the need to for a particular character. I also end up using them on a new toon as well(maybe more than on an existing, if I can't work out that toon's theme with the set.)
More than once I've bought a costume set just because a single piece of the set would be a perfect match for a new character. It won't be like this for all costume sets, since sometimes you see a set and think "this would be perfect for such-and-such character" but overall, I'm probably going to spend less, too (if and when they put some stuff out that I like... I haven't bought any costumes or anything for over half a year).
Heroic gear is supposed to be the first set you get for a character after you get it to 40. It takes a few days because it was the lowest standard to acquire in a few days. Legion was a cash alternative for superior raw stats along with vigilante secondaries with questionite. Beyond that you had to grind for superior gear yourself.
There is no reason to grind this hard for gear that isn't that much better than blue with an innate super stat on it. There is no reason for most of the rec prices to be this high. Increasing the cost of in game currency items isn't how you elongate gameplay. Stop trying to stretch out existing content and start adding new content to the game.
Give us too much content to do and the things you add won't get old so fast. If the comic series installments continued the way it was (beyond the two), that would be almost ten whole, complete multi-part adventures I would still be grinding rewards from.
Heroic gear is supposed to be the first set you get for a character after you get it to 40. It takes a few days because it was the lowest standard to acquire in a few days. Legion was a cash alternative for superior raw stats along with vigilante secondaries with questionite. Beyond that you had to grind for superior gear yourself.
There is no reason to grind this hard for gear that isn't that much better than blue with an innate super stat on it. There is no reason for most of the rec prices to be this high. Increasing the cost of in game currency items isn't how you elongate gameplay. Stop trying to stretch out existing content and start adding new content to the game.
Give us too much content to do and the things you add won't get old so fast. If the comic series installments continued the way it was (beyond the two), that would be almost ten whole, complete multi-part adventures I would still be grinding rewards from.
True..let's hope I have the G's to buy some heroics. Speaking as a returning player, this is honestly my biggest gripe, in that Heroics(assuming I do every daily, every day, for about..3 weeks) will take unnecessarily longer time to get. Glad I got all my other 40s maxed out in the stuff, this new one I have in mind..this is extremely aggravating on Cryptics end, and for those who think this'll be good for longevity? Couldn't be more wrong.
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Buffing everything to stupid high levels and nerfing everything to piss poor levels yields the same results, but not the same community reactions.
Good thing I bought 33 Heroics with all my characters SCR BEFORE this Update hit live!
No cryptic, you didn't increased the Heroic prices because its "End Game" gear which has been there for 4 years as Mundane gear
You increased it to make people spend Zen/Resources/Keys on opening lockboxes and getting Legion
What a Greedy strategy, nice way to insult your Playerbase and players with ALTs, DEVs
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Heroic gear is supposed to be the first set you get for a character after you get it to 40.
There's no actual evidence for this being true. It was generally seen as true because it was so easy to get, but the original intent was probably that Mercenary gear was the first set.
Heroic gear is supposed to be the first set you get for a character after you get it to 40.
There's no actual evidence for this being true. It was generally seen as true because it was so easy to get, but the original intent was probably that Mercenary gear was the first set.
What was or wasn't an actual intent is hardy relevant after a few years when it wasn't acknowledged as wrong.
After this time even original developers might explain and say whatever they want and nobody's really obligated to believe their words.
Keys or Q-nite is the more likely explanation than any sudden "balance" or "design" concerns.
Heroic gear is supposed to be the first set you get for a character after you get it to 40.
There's no actual evidence for this being true. It was generally seen as true because it was so easy to get, but the original intent was probably that Mercenary gear was the first set.
The 150k Q mercenary set was supposed to be the starter set when compared to the six days of UNITY heroic?
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Intent is kind of irrelevant with all the dev shuffling, and we'll probably never know the truth without time travel. But the simplest deduction is that they knew how long it would take and that the gear was superior for the time that it was made + were aware better gear would come after, because any ole bum off the street could make a similar assessment. Why was it so easy to get if it wasn't designed that way?
Its quality was and is. The fact is, at the old prices there was no reason to ever buy mercenary gear from the Q store (arguably this is true even at the current price), so someone messed up the price of something.
As usual, you're wrong about my intentions. You made a post that was not contributing to any ongoing conversation and wasn't starting a new one. On top of that, it was trolling. Stop it.
Keep editing the posts before people try to slide a thread into personal out-of-topic comments... even my own posts *wink*
I've been doing stuff rather sparingly, and I already have so much SCR; that I'm gonna have to dump some here soon so I don't go over the cap, so; it's not that hard. Sky command is spewing SCR like it's water, the dailies, and TA, TA gives out tons of it as well. The prices aren't really a problem, if you just get out there, and do some things.
I've been doing stuff rather sparingly, and I already have so much SCR; that I'm gonna have to dump some here soon so I don't go over the cap, so; it's not that hard. Sky command is spewing SCR like it's water, the dailies, and TA, TA gives out tons of it as well. The prices aren't really a problem, if you just get out there, and do some things.
.... like we were doing nothing before the new pricings? uh?
I've been doing stuff rather sparingly, and I already have so much SCR; that I'm gonna have to dump some here soon so I don't go over the cap, so; it's not that hard. Sky command is spewing SCR like it's water, the dailies, and TA, TA gives out tons of it as well. The prices aren't really a problem, if you just get out there, and do some things.
Except the minimum level of gear the devs intend to go into TA is now hidden behind absurd prices and grind. Most here aren't talking about it being hard (though difficulty is subjective), most are talking about it being a tedious, (Imo mindnumbingly boring) month long grind.
Heroic gear being quick and simple to get would be better for the game as a whole. Burning a playerbase out on all the grinds being added to the game is bad for the game. Alienating the portion of your player base who enjoys making alts (and who in all likely hood are the reason the game has gotten this far) is also bad for the game.
So TA gives out "tons" of SCR. The very SCR you need to purchase the gear the devs intended you to have before even attempting TA, which awards the SCR.
Are you beginning to see the issue here?
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So TA gives out "tons" of SCR. The very SCR you need to purchase the gear the devs intended you to have before even attempting TA, which awards the SCR.
Are you beginning to see the issue here?
That's what i've been saying this whole time; Catch-22.
Buffing everything to stupid high levels and nerfing everything to piss poor levels yields the same results, but not the same community reactions.
I've been doing stuff rather sparingly, and I already have so much SCR; that I'm gonna have to dump some here soon so I don't go over the cap, so; it's not that hard. Sky command is spewing SCR like it's water, the dailies, and TA, TA gives out tons of it as well. The prices aren't really a problem, if you just get out there, and do some things.
Except the minimum level of gear the devs intend to go into TA is now hidden behind absurd prices and grind. Most here aren't talking about it being hard (though difficulty is subjective), most are talking about it being a tedious, (Imo mindnumbingly boring) month long grind.
Heroic gear being quick and simple to get would be better for the game as a whole. Burning a playerbase out on all the grinds being added to the game is bad for the game. Alienating the portion of your player base who enjoys making alts (and who in all likely hood are the reason the game has gotten this far) is also bad for the game.
Exactly, there will be those who say I got it in a week but im casual(their lying). I'm betting they did it with their already geared toon(to get into TA and get SCR from there).
Buffing everything to stupid high levels and nerfing everything to piss poor levels yields the same results, but not the same community reactions.
Exactly, there will be those who say I got it in a week but im casual(their lying). I'm betting they did it with their already geared toon(to get into TA and get SCR from there).
If you're planning on farming SCR fast, you probably do it via alert dailies and Rampage farming; while TA does give out a significant amount of SCR, 5 SCR/day from special alerts is probably the fastest in terms of game time per SCR, followed by rampages and standard Alert dailies. Mechanon missions are also likely a good source.
Exactly, there will be those who say I got it in a week but im casual(their lying). I'm betting they did it with their already geared toon(to get into TA and get SCR from there).
If you're planning on farming SCR fast, you probably do it via alert dailies and Rampage farming; while TA does give out a significant amount of SCR, 5 SCR/day from special alerts is probably the fastest in terms of game time per SCR, followed by rampages and standard Alert dailies. Mechanon missions are also likely a good source.
I'm sure. But, doing the math(in terms of just raw time doing what you just suggested). I believe their is the APB daily, and the special alert, correct?. 10 SCR. Then rampages(I believe 5)=15, plus mechanon(though honestly i'm not a fan, but still. 3-5(?)SCR)=20. Now doing just the alert dailies for 5=15 days for one piece, looks nice now but then remember theirs 3, so that ends up being a month+a week/one extra day. So still a month and some change to gear one alt. . With starter gear. Yeah no, I'm gonna dump this whole SCR garbage and try and farm G's/barter for them.(I hope I still have my halloween devs. someone might wanna do a little trade for a amazing grace )
Mind you, if I did everything, it obv. wouldn't be a month and some change, but as you said, dailies are the quickest route soo...(not to demean anything you said, you are indeed correct. Just doing the math for myself, really )
Buffing everything to stupid high levels and nerfing everything to piss poor levels yields the same results, but not the same community reactions.
I'd assume that the characters you're going to run with already have justice, or legion; or otherwise, then you can pile it all up on a couple characters, and then use those characters to buy gear for the other characters, and ignore the ungeared characters until you can afford to get them some gear.
Spending a day in sky command + 3 TA runs + red winter daily + smash daily, + the 2 unities, then hitting the cosmics, I think I ended up with ~280 scr. I could have hit 300, if I had some vikorin a few times. He gives out 6 a run if you have 2 people.
Okay, yeah. Now we're running up against the boredom problem. I'm supposed to run the same Alert all day, in order to get enough SCR to buy one or two of the pieces?
As I said before, if I wanted to just grind Alerts, I'd be leveling by grinding Alerts. That's not what I dropped $300 to play.
"Science teaches us to expect -- demand -- more than just eerie mysteries. What use is a puzzle that can't be solved? Patience is fine, but I'm not going to stop asking the universe to make sense!"
Spending a day in sky command + 3 TA runs + red winter daily + smash daily, + the 2 unities, then hitting the cosmics, I think I ended up with ~280 scr. I could have hit 300, if I had some vikorin a few times. He gives out 6 a run if you have 2 people.
Someone who wants his heroic gear in one day would have to spend the whole day farming it intensively, and you've numbers to prove it. Now I can hear you and it makes sense. But it's still a 420% grind inflation as suddenly as a fingersnap with no consistent explanations. We used to spend our time doing other things, now we have to spend our time doing some things and I know better rewarding grinding mmos.
I'd assume that the characters you're going to run with already have justice, or legion; or otherwise, then you can pile it all up on a couple characters, and then use those characters to buy gear for the other characters, and ignore the ungeared characters until you can afford to get them some gear.
Spending a day in sky command + 3 TA runs + red winter daily + smash daily, + the 2 unities, then hitting the cosmics, I think I ended up with ~280 scr. I could have hit 300, if I had some vikorin a few times. He gives out 6 a run if you have 2 people.
So how many hours do you have in a day?
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Okay, yeah. Now we're running up against the boredom problem. I'm supposed to run the same Alert all day, in order to get enough SCR to buy one or two of the pieces?
As I said before, if I wanted to just grind Alerts, I'd be leveling by grinding Alerts. That's not what I dropped $300 to play.
I'd assume that the characters you're going to run with already have justice, or legion; or otherwise, then you can pile it all up on a couple characters, and then use those characters to buy gear for the other characters, and ignore the ungeared characters until you can afford to get them some gear.
Spending a day in sky command + 3 TA runs + red winter daily + smash daily, + the 2 unities, then hitting the cosmics, I think I ended up with ~280 scr. I could have hit 300, if I had some vikorin a few times. He gives out 6 a run if you have 2 people.
Cosmics don't spawn often, and die in seconds.
Unity 2 is not largely known about(in terms of how to get to it)
3 TA runs? That's about(mind you this is on-average)1-2 Hrs a pop, not including team makeup time.
I'm hoping vikoran gear will tide my new 40 over, as I'm more a FoTM kinda guy(in terms of toons, not build) wherein I'll be so enthralled in the costume/powers of the toon/theme sometimes as well, that I'll want to play it for an extended period of time in what's new.
Buffing everything to stupid high levels and nerfing everything to piss poor levels yields the same results, but not the same community reactions.
Okay, yeah. Now we're running up against the boredom problem. I'm supposed to run the same Alert all day, in order to get enough SCR to buy one or two of the pieces?
As I said before, if I wanted to just grind Alerts, I'd be leveling by grinding Alerts. That's not what I dropped $300 to play.
No Jon, you don't have to do 1 thing all day long. There are a number of things you can do for SCR, and you can choose among them. That's personally what I like about the way things are now... instead of just Unity missions over and over and over and over, there's variety. You can avoid alerts entirely and still earn plenty of SCR.
PS - you can play whatever you payed those bucks to play, just go do it. No I'm serious, try it. Just go do whatever you want, I promise it'll work. In fact, it might even work better for you than doing what you believe you are being forced to do. Just take a day, throw out the idea that anything is forcing you to do anything, and only do what you want to do in game. I promise you, it will work.
PSS - I just had a thought and Im going to go start a new thread for it.
It doesn't take 2 hours each, we have a channel set up for everyone that's been enjoying TA, so getting a group takes just a couple moments, and we've been running the same group 3 times in a row to start working towards the power, etc, we can finish all 3 in just over an hour.
It doesn't take 2 hours each, we have a channel set up for everyone that's been enjoying TA, so getting a group takes just a couple moments, and we've been running the same group 3 times in a row to start working towards the power, etc, we can finish all 3 in just over an hour.
Rampagers, correct? I'm apart of that! ..I'll see if your word holds true with my experiences in a few days
Buffing everything to stupid high levels and nerfing everything to piss poor levels yields the same results, but not the same community reactions.
It doesn't take 2 hours each, we have a channel set up for everyone that's been enjoying TA, so getting a group takes just a couple moments, and we've been running the same group 3 times in a row to start working towards the power, etc, we can finish all 3 in just over an hour.
I agree here again. In CO, we have dedicated channels so if someone wants to farm intensively, it's not that hard to do it. But... how does it explain this 420% grind inflation?
Acquisition rates for the general populace should not be using channel cliques as the baseline. Those in the rampagers channel are well above the baselines for skill and or gear of the general population.
Just because .001% of a game population can do something in X amount of time does not make that something viable for the majority of the population.
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Acquisition rates for the general populace should not be using channel cliques as the baseline. Those in the rampagers channel are well above the baselines for skill and or gear of the general population.
Just because .001% of a game population can do something in X amount of time does not make that something viable for the majority of the population.
I don't think myself above the population in any means . I'm more than positive a lot of those in the channel are casual like myself, and just build for fun, while others build to optimize a certain aspect or abilities, but I believe we're more than willing to accept others into the channel .
No, it's not rampagers; it was a private channel created for people that had a passion for going to TA, was made private to keep the trolls out.
I'll be getting(officially) back into CO and subbing next week. May I join this channel? As I plan to start a new alt(even though I know I said I wouldn't with these stupendously horrendous prices).
Buffing everything to stupid high levels and nerfing everything to piss poor levels yields the same results, but not the same community reactions.
Also, look at Two Gun Mojo, easily one of the most popular powers in the game because it looks cool and was hamfistedly fixed from underpowered to overpowered. I fully expect this power to get nerfed, even though it's been the way it is for years, because it doesn't fall in line with other powers of the same type. And guess what? I won't be complaining about it
Also, look at Two Gun Mojo, easily one of the most popular powers in the game because it looks cool and was hamfistedly fixed from underpowered to overpowered. I fully expect this power to get nerfed, even though it's been the way it is for years, because it doesn't fall in line with other powers of the same type. And guess what? I won't be complaining about it
Also, look at Two Gun Mojo, easily one of the most popular powers in the game because it looks cool and was hamfistedly fixed from underpowered to overpowered. I fully expect this power to get nerfed, even though it's been the way it is for years, because it doesn't fall in line with other powers of the same type. And guess what? I won't be complaining about it
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But then again all of my existing toons are already properly geared up as far as they can go without grinding, and prior to the price changes. Really there's no incentive for me to may new toons as the grind is beyond what I would find acceptable.
The game has gotten less alt friendly from the prices and other recent changes they have made.
EDIT: I would also strongly argue changes that make people make less alts ARE NOT fine. People making alts is the lifeblood of CO. There is not enough content coming out for the game to stand on content alone. Without people making alts, there is no point to them buying costumes, which is also one of the lifebloods of this game.
Others are allowed to disagree.
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Maybe Windows Insider Fast Ring instability has been a blessing in disguise. And I say this as somebody who does NOT have altitis.
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50-100 scr would be about right if they are determined to raise the prices. The costumes and travel powers should have remained at their original price.
As to the costumes, the only 975 SCR ones are the ultra-rare drops from Alerts and similar. No way those are coming down.
150 for Heroics, 350 for devices is still high, though, maybe by double - but I guess 100 and 200 or 250 would be better. When getting SCR, it really feels like each mission that has a gain is meaningless. That's how it *feels* anyway - I know I'll be able to purchase something, like...one of these days.
Would be a lot better with the recog transferable... *takes another whack at the zombie horse*
There is no reason to grind this hard for gear that isn't that much better than blue with an innate super stat on it. There is no reason for most of the rec prices to be this high. Increasing the cost of in game currency items isn't how you elongate gameplay. Stop trying to stretch out existing content and start adding new content to the game.
Give us too much content to do and the things you add won't get old so fast. If the comic series installments continued the way it was (beyond the two), that would be almost ten whole, complete multi-part adventures I would still be grinding rewards from.
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No cryptic, you didn't increased the Heroic prices because its "End Game" gear which has been there for 4 years as Mundane gear
You increased it to make people spend Zen/Resources/Keys on opening lockboxes and getting Legion
What a Greedy strategy, nice way to insult your Playerbase and players with ALTs, DEVs
Before the changes, it did not matter because heroic gears were fast to get.
Now it does matter and that's Cryptic decision.
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After this time even original developers might explain and say whatever they want and nobody's really obligated to believe their words.
Keys or Q-nite is the more likely explanation than any sudden "balance" or "design" concerns.
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Heroic gear being quick and simple to get would be better for the game as a whole. Burning a playerbase out on all the grinds being added to the game is bad for the game. Alienating the portion of your player base who enjoys making alts (and who in all likely hood are the reason the game has gotten this far) is also bad for the game.
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But, doing the math(in terms of just raw time doing what you just suggested). I believe their is the APB daily, and the special alert, correct?.
10 SCR. Then rampages(I believe 5)=15, plus mechanon(though honestly i'm not a fan, but still. 3-5(?)SCR)=20. Now doing just the alert dailies for 5=15 days for one piece, looks nice now but then remember theirs 3, so that ends up being a month+a week/one extra day. So still a month and some change to gear one alt.
Mind you, if I did everything, it obv. wouldn't be a month and some change, but as you said, dailies are the quickest route soo...(not to demean anything you said, you are indeed correct. Just doing the math for myself, really
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Spending a day in sky command + 3 TA runs + red winter daily + smash daily, + the 2 unities, then hitting the cosmics, I think I ended up with ~280 scr. I could have hit 300, if I had some vikorin a few times. He gives out 6 a run if you have 2 people.
As I said before, if I wanted to just grind Alerts, I'd be leveling by grinding Alerts. That's not what I dropped $300 to play.
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But it's still a 420% grind inflation as suddenly as a fingersnap with no consistent explanations. We used to spend our time doing other things, now we have to spend our time doing some things and I know better rewarding grinding mmos.
- Cosmics don't spawn often, and die in seconds.
- Unity 2 is not largely known about(in terms of how to get to it)
- 3 TA runs? That's about(mind you this is on-average)1-2 Hrs a pop, not including team makeup time.
I'm hoping vikoran gear will tide my new 40 over, as I'm more a FoTM kinda guy(in terms of toons, not build) wherein I'll be so enthralled in the costume/powers of the toon/theme sometimes as well, that I'll want to play it for an extended period of time in what's new.42 40s, LTSer.
PS - you can play whatever you payed those bucks to play, just go do it. No I'm serious, try it. Just go do whatever you want, I promise it'll work. In fact, it might even work better for you than doing what you believe you are being forced to do. Just take a day, throw out the idea that anything is forcing you to do anything, and only do what you want to do in game. I promise you, it will work.
PSS - I just had a thought and Im going to go start a new thread for it.
My super cool CC build and how to use it.
42 40s, LTSer.
But... how does it explain this 420% grind inflation?
Just because .001% of a game population can do something in X amount of time does not make that something viable for the majority of the population.
42 40s, LTSer.
http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/championsonline/#/discussion/1204370/fc-31-20151210a-37-mardi-gras-mask-specialist-update
Not sure if it's a nerf or not, but it's a pretty big change! Sounds cool.
Oops but I couldn't resist.
killedadjusted42 40s, LTSer.