New Nerf hammer

candinho2 · May 2016

rgutscheradev said:

dsn1118 said:
Still no fix on Paranoid overstacking?
There's a fix for this in the pipeline -- it wasn't so much a problem with Paranoid Delusion per se, as a problem with bonding runestones that Paranoid Delusion really took advantage of. (And don't worry, if you weren't overstacking, the fix won't nerf you at all -- in fact it will improve you slightly, or more than slightly if you are wanting to use a slower-attacking companion.)

candinho2 · May 2016

bonding prices will drop significantly, sell while you still can get a good price for it

ghoulz66 · May 2016

Hmmmm? They changed the mechanics in secret?

I do like what I heard though. I been using non-cookie cutter companions that are usually slower than the typical warlock thief garbo.

archangelzorak01 · May 2016

This is fantastic news.

jase2cool · May 2016

I doubt the price will drop much as its still BIS

adinosii · May 2016

Fix...not a nerf. I'm happy..I haven't wanted to use bonding runestones until now because of the buggy behaviour.

zibadawa · May 2016

Could you link where the posts came from instead of quoting them?

dfnce · May 2016

http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter#/discussion/comment/12827020
http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter#/post/quote/1216241/Comment_12827020

flyingleon · May 2016

I would guess the change will be: no more than one stack companion gift. A companion will only proc one stack comapion gift which gives stats depending the summed rank of your bondings. Pure speculation though☺

wildfirede · May 2016

I welcome the change (having a bond proccer myself) hope the pipeline is not too long.

qexotic · May 2016

Fixing the problem of Bonding Runestones stacking is a good move but why combine it with a nerf so that in future they will work best with slow hitting companions ? That is a really poorly thought out change that will only serve to really annoy a lot of players.

wildfirede · May 2016

more then slightly improvement on a slower companion before->after does not mean slower will get better than faster (i hope equal) hence being equal after fix means more improving in comparison to now

niadan · May 2016

It was not stated that the bonding procs will work "BEST" with slower attacking companions. It just stated that if you use a slower attacking companion already, you will see an improvement over what you are currently experiencing.

oldbaldyone · May 2016

You guys realize he could be referring to the "significant" overstacking issue (the 15+ stuff), and not the pet dying overstacking thing right? Since the PD is mentioned specifically and is the only one with this problem.....my bet its just the proc on summon that will be fixed. Who knows.

Enchantments and Runestones resetting cooldowns on death is not limited to pets FYI.

awrex1977 · May 2016

Anything more than 3 stacks is overkill, hard cap on stacks is a reasonable fix IMO.

sax1993 · May 2016

Hard cap on 3 and you think bondings will drop because of it? Lmao get real. They'd be working like they should be and theyre still BIS. Hardly a nerf and just a fix..

wildfirede · May 2016

bonding being only from zen as addition to pets that most people already have or will never buy
or fromlockboxes at a very low rate

and the RP for enchantments going up and removal of wards from t.bar store will let them keep their price ( if next lockbox has no companion augmentatiin kit it will even rise).

Even if bonding pet is on par with augment ppl love diversity and will use active pets once there is nothing else to put their AD into but b.stones. I know i will keep my lock as a cmpanion to my thiveling

beckylunatic · May 2016

qexotic said:
Fixing the problem of Bonding Runestones stacking is a good move but why combine it with a nerf so that in future they will work best with slow hitting companions ? That is a really poorly thought out change that will only serve to really annoy a lot of players.

I would take that to mean it's going to close the gap such that players won't simply look for the companion that can get the most possible stacks in the least possible time.

It'll be a buff for players who preferred something that wasn't a lightfoot/merc/warlock/demon/blink dog.

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phoenix1021 · May 2016

I hope this includes a way for augments to also trigger companion's gift.

adinosii · May 2016

Augments? No...not going to happen.

wildfirede · May 2016

not going to happen unless you want to see the old picture of 20 players with blue stones infront of tiamat all over again but this time with goats

urabask · May 2016

phoenix1021 said:
I hope this includes a way for augments to also trigger companion's gift.

It's more like a tacit declaration that they've always intended for bonding stones to be superior to augments.

flyingleon · May 2016

flyingleon said:
I would guess the change will be: no more than one stack companion gift. A companion will only proc one stack comapion gift which gives stats depending the summed rank of your bondings. Pure speculation though☺

I think I got it right there.

Bonding Runestones now grant their combined effect in a single stack.
For example, if a summoned companion has two Bonding Runestones (Rank 12, 95% each) equipped, the related buff now gives the player 190% of the summoned companion's current stats.
This effect no longer stacks. This gives the effect a maximum of 285% of the summoned companion's current stats (with three R12s equipped).

From preview patch notes.

Edit: The change will indeed make many slow proc companions viable especially with good buff/debuff powers.

twoedge1 · May 2016

So bonding runestones stacks have been removed? Does anyone know what the difference in stats will be? Will the stats gained be the same for someone that has 3 r12 with 3 stacks?

sockmunkey · May 2016

twoedge1 said:
So bonding runestones stacks have been removed? Does anyone know what the difference in stats will be? Will the stats gained be the same for someone that has 3 r12 with 3 stacks?

It was just said in the post right above yours.

flyingleon said:

This gives the effect a maximum of 285% of the summoned companion's current stats (with three R12s equipped).

285% is the new maximum. If you have less then R12s or less then 3 you will gain less of a percentage.

nathan · May 2016

Lol. Who designs this <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>. Now I don't really care one way or the other because I have both an augment and the warlock, but making a bonding per 3x more effective than an augment as a "fix" is just really bad game design. Augments can't attack enemies ( adds dps or effects ) nor can they take hits ( and then die and stand right back up and take another... And another ). A green bonding stone pet tanked orcus for our group earlier.

Balance ?????

qexotic · May 2016

Augments are just armour enhancement with a bonus of an included imaginary friend that for some reason everyone else can see. They cannot be damaged and always give the same level of power. Summoned companions are an active part of the game. They come and go, they can kill and be killed, they can be an entertaining extra aspect of the game for players and they take an active part in the game. They should be better than augments which just sit there, do nothing and bring nothing more than added stats to the player.

One of my characters has a cat and an Ioun Stone of Allure but neither have been active for a long time as they just add/bring nothing to my enjoyment of the game. All three of the summoned companions I have on my characters add to my enjoyment of the game simply by being there. My HR has a Zhentarim Warlock. She's a bit dull to have around away for the action but in a fight I can happily sit back and watch her animated antics. Seeing her green eldritch flame and colourful runes lighting up enemies is just entertaining. My CW has a Sylph. She is hands down the most entertaining companion I have in my collection both during fights and in the quiet times inbetween. Finally, my SW has a Shadow Demon. It just seemed like the most appropriate companion for her to have and a perfect match for her soul puppet. Again, it is great fun to just sit back and watch these two beating up the bad guys. And the reason I play this is game is have fun not count stats >:)

ghoulz66 · May 2016

Yeah, they should have never made a rank 11 and 12.... 195% was good enough.

wildfirede · May 2016

augment costs 100k AD
bondings r12 + companion 100* 100k ad and most of the cost is from zen prices and not from speculation.

abd 285 is not up all the time and you can get a eldritch for the augment for cheap

so it seems kinda fair to get some more for the 100* investment

and yes finaly we can use the over 100 companions that got neglected till now due to speed differences and nit feel subpar to the thief users

xxmantaraxx · May 2016

What if they decide to fix bonding stones like they fixed the indomitable stones? Making only the highest level of stone equiped count. They have doen it before and completely nerfed all usefulness of a solid runestone that was being exploited by only a few a55clowns.

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