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So when is the icd for red dragon glyphs coming? Giving a huge bonus damage to classes that deal DOT damage or do fast hits. Seriously internal cool down is needed. I know there have been a lot of threads about this but it's about time glyphs get fixed for good. They made the glyphs respec damage resist but also allowed them to be affected by armorpen, resulting in more damage for the glyphs.
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Nah man.
Your Anvil does 40K damage to squishies. Go fix that first OK? How about Griffon? You can perma CC a CW to death.
Leave them as they are, you can Block them.
As I said numerous times, Reds are no longer OP. You can hit as low as 30 damage with them. A CW has NO RELEVANT DAMAGE without Reds at this point.
Glyphs were OP in the past. This is no longer the case. Slap on Knee Breaker or something and use them too.
That is a lie, by the way. They do considerably LESS damage in PvP while respecting ArP and debuffs.
I will actually return with ACT data to show this later on.
Dunno if it procs from deep gash, but first impression is it melts stuff pretty quick with good base DRI. And i'm not even a warlock or a HR or a CW. Cws are getting some buffs, i do prefer real fixes to all classes and <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> glyphs with icd.
But as for the people saying about gf anvil you must understand something. It is maybe a bit too powerful sure but not every build can do this. The reason is high STR and STR belt mixed with perfect vorpal, high power, crit and armor pen so not every build or player can achieve this at all. Btw not saying that a gf should be able to do that, just saying, you need to dedicate your char to crazy dps and have a nearly maxed char to do it, Plus each char has there own version of anvil :P
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once upon a time i had shocking execution....now it heals you. but hei anvil.
and lashing blade hits like bullcharge with 3x cooldown
GF is the new TR xD
- Shocking Exeuction (LOL)
- Killing Flames
.... That's it, not "every" char has a finisher.
Crixus, it is this type of GFs you fight against in premades. Nobody comes with half-baked build, or pays dearly if they do. Thing is, one shouldn't complain about glyphs anymore. They seem to be a bit OP on HR (but the whole class is anyway), and as for the SW, just no, SW is weak in general in PvP. If one lets SWs and CWs freecast on them, they should pay the price, as all that is needed is one good GF/GWF/HR that hunts these casters down and they are at 25% efficiency.
Fake my hiney.
Why do you people make me post these videos AGAIN and AGAIN?
http://www.twitch.tv/justicarsyndra/c/5209787
Lol at squishies die anyway.
What kinda fantasy outlandish game you think you playing here?
There needs to be balance, or soon I'll start asking for my Icy Rays to go through Shield and do 40K damage if you're below 50% HP to compensate for my cloth that I wear.
I am supposed to be a powerful Mage, right?
Get over the D&D fantasy stuff, this is an MMO first.
sry I didn't mean a finish move i meant a good utility or power that can be crazy effective.
Hr- That crazy DOT
GWF- intimidation
SW -Killing flames- infinite sprint
TR- perma stealth- in mod, perma daze
CW have some good stuff too but haven't tested much with them lately.
Cleric- the new heals, seen a 300k heal lol. and the ability to be very hard to kill.
@Magiquepurse, i agree, glyphs aren't a big issue anymore like i said, i was just pointing out that the only gfs that can really deal the OP dmg with anvil is the ones who have specced for it and it does require a lot. It might be too much i just wanted to say what the reason for it was, not the base dmg of anvil since i have tested with many gf players and sometimes there anvil only hits about 5k under 40% hp.
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Ah you meant it that way, I'll help you here
Hr - Careful attack + Life Steal
GWF - Intimidation + Executioner's Style boosted Indomitable Battle Strike.
SW - Killing Flames and the Crazy Life Steal DoT via Warlock's bargain
TR - Perma-Stealth (Even in mod 5, perma-stealth will actually be stronger in mod5) and Perma-Daze.
CW - Ice Knife and Icy Rays
Cleric- Triple Stun + Immortal Heals + Fire of the Lords feat
GF damage is relatively OK, even if I cannot match it on my CW. It's Ok if I die to Anvils from time to time if I get caught, or huge Intimidation procs. It is what it is. The only issue that I have with GFs at this time is their Shield blocking both freeze and icy rays, making CWs sitting ducks - that's not fine at all, as trying to get behind shield is suicidal vs geared GF.
But I don't wanna see Rank 10 BiS GFs though in the forums asking for nerfs to gear that would further empower their class, disregarding the impact on the overall balance. It's just lame. The GF class is finally in a great place in PvP, although HRs are a pain, as they are to everyone else.
I suppose that's all
I agree with a lot you say. I have said several times i would like icey reys and ray of frost to go through gf block again, if the dmg was not how it used to be though, getting hit 5-7k with that even through guard wasn't fun lol
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After we discussed this in the guild (as in both GFs and CWs), what everyone came to agree was that Icy Rays should stay as it is (GF able to block), but Chill should go through Block, however at a slightly reduced speed (this would need to be tested), so the CW ends up having something to defend themselves with and an opportunity to land a CC. CW without CC=dead CW.
The situation in 1vs1s was balanced before changes to block. What our GFs disliked was the ability of bad low GS CWs to spam RoF on them and still freeze them, as in 2vs1 situations. 1vs1 GFcsCW was OK before the changes to Block, as no sane GF would turtle and wait for the Chill to stack to 6 so they freeze, and there are ways to get yourself out of Icy Rays if the CW is relatively close.
Ant monster used knights challenge. it is quit easy to fight against it. but it is deadly.
Now, how am I a hypocrite? When mod4 was coming out I didn't agree with the huge dps overload for the gfs. I reported about what terrifying impact those. An yes I can one rotation people, but so can gwf/cw/hr/sw...sometimes. It is not like I hit that hard and i am also tanky. I am not tanky one bit. Deflection dicks griffons wrath because you can deflect the stun duration and if that happens the person can escape before the next griffon.
Your real issues are not glyphs.
Your real issues are:
- HRs
- being CCed by somebody and burned by people that probably have glyphs
Am I correct?
For the first case, you should probably focus on the HR class instead on an item that happens to be used by other classes as well. HRs make the game worse for all classes at this point, but since mod 5 is soon to come out with all the class balancing, we should just wait and see.
For the second case, it is about failing to Block when needed and dying in 1vsX situations. Which you should, as you are outnumbered and outgunned. Other classes suffer from this as well - I might get one rotationed with Shield on Mastery and full pots if some CW Entangles me, because if they are in voicechat the HR/GF/GWF will know I am CCed and unload other CCs and nukes on me while I am fully helpless.
But should you survive when outnumbered? I don't think so.
It's pretty much what I use. You won't beat great GFs with this rotation though, because they can exploit the CW dodge. You wait for them to dodge and immediately throw CC after, and it's a 100% chance of succeeding, as there's a small period in which the CW cannot do anything after dodging.
As for average GFs, nobody cares, I can kill those all day long.
Yeah for sure. i agree that cw could do with at least one power that goes through guard but still many cw can still do fine if they know how.
I also don't get why so many always stay close to us and the main thing that bugs me is why they dodge behind us, like its going to do anything lol, they just get cc'd.
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When they are not slotting greater reds, i can fight back and even if i lose, it's usually a fair fight.
When you meet a HR (more then the others) SW or CW using them, you see people, and yourself, melting a lot faster.
Should have internal cooldown and solve balance between classes through feats/ powers changes. Not through enchants working better on some classes... Plus the DPS in PvP already went thorugh the roof, it's a DPS race now. We don't need more damage...we need more tactic and skill in PvP...
Too late for that man.
Expect 25K gs+ next mod.
7 Legendaries
and...
.... almost no Tenacity
You see, the devs don't seem to slow down AT ALL, rather they keep putting in more and more gear, more and more Power, to the point where people can 2-3 shot each other.
All this while removing the Aimed abilities and replacing with AoEs or point&click and DoTs&procs.
(And no, TR will not the best class even after buff, they are not threatening at all, even the perma-daze, and this is coming from an HR that has no CC escape).
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You don't need CC escape with 50% deflect.....cause you are never cc.Deflect reduces stun duration.Wear a greater elven and as a HR you would be 65-75% CC resist.lol.Not to ever mention the other gear that gives cc ressist.Artifacts ,sets etc.
As for GF he will be complete obsolete in mod5.Defence is irrelevant after mod4 and onwards.All classes have such high dps arm pen and ways to bypass defence ,that now defence makes little difference.
Proof?while in mod3 purified was the bis gear for all classes now corrupted has by 90% replaced it.
GF as a class relies only in defence(that can be mitigated).Has the lowest deflect by all melee classes and his cc mechanism(block) cannot cover him from all angles.A cw just needs to dodge in an 40 ancle and press icy rays while GF fights another toon.Game over.
You want proof?Check the leaderboard now.3 Gfs in first page of which:
one plays only with his pvp guild ands he is 22k gs himself.The third is a relic of the reflect-glyph build.
Days ago i wrote that were only 17 GF in first 50 pages.5 days later the situation has deteriorated.
from these 17 half of them don't play pvp anymore in order not to lose thier rank.They were the glyph reflect builds.
GF is hopeless against the current top melee class HR.Fox shift is buggy and sometimes(most) penetrates block.Boar charge goes through Villan's Meance(confirmed) and after time Gf gets proned his block comes to use after a delay .It was always buggy.
HRs are in abandon and while Cw can fights them in range ,poor Gf must get close and get stunned and doted to death.
Mod 5 and GF=Dead GF
Why is it OK that everyone should be able to beat a GF, but it is not OK if losing to a GF?
Why should a GF not be able to 1 rotation kill at least 2 other classes? As I see it there are GFs out there that can be 1 rotation killed given good play style and appropriate gear.
Just wondering, and expecting a nerf to come to PvE because of the rants in this thread.
Cauuse, even if possible, usually nerfs for PvP are also included in PvE (less implementing $ necessary, less testing $ necessary)
So you have an HR problem as I expected.
Do NOT break my already frail CW class because of your HR issues.
Go and ask for fixes to that class first OK?
gwf and trs deflect. Listen, mod 5 cws are getting faster cast time to must of their mainstream skills in pvp. Red glyphs have to go. Or blue dragon glyphs should know longer have an internal cool down. So it will fight against red dragon glyphs(Yes I know how bad blue dragon glyphs are). But that is what needs to be done.
Well we gonna have to agree to disagree than.
You already have HUGE damage. My encounters hit for almost nothing, and my DoTs and procs got nerfed BADLY in Mod 5. Some casting speed won't really help if I hit for 5K and the opponent hits for 20k.
As much as I hated glyphs in the past (to the point I didn't PvP until they got nerfed and posted a lot against them), my opinion changed, as my CW depends on them to be semi-relevant. My CW doesn't have lots of deflect either and gets burned by HRs and dies fast once CCed, yet if this is what it takes for me to have decent damage, fine, I will take it.
I would GLADLY see all the procs and DoTs gone - but give me back my encounter damage. Give a 30K finisher as well and other 15k+ encounters with charges.