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Hello Guy's,
Just a little topic about PVP again. If there is to have open world pvp, what do you think the best system would be ?
Here is an example of a great system, in my point of view:
- Notoriety System. You have for example, 5 kills before to be flagged red ( murderer ) and then you can not enter town. ( That is where a housing system is great, or guild keep ).
-Your kill count can go away if you defend town from a great threat ( example ). Lich attack town, you help the militia so if give your notoriety point.
- Kill count goes away with time etc...
Please suggest here, don't talk about anything else.
OJ
Just a little topic about PVP again. If there is to have open world pvp, what do you think the best system would be ?
Here is an example of a great system, in my point of view:
- Notoriety System. You have for example, 5 kills before to be flagged red ( murderer ) and then you can not enter town. ( That is where a housing system is great, or guild keep ).
-Your kill count can go away if you defend town from a great threat ( example ). Lich attack town, you help the militia so if give your notoriety point.
- Kill count goes away with time etc...
Please suggest here, don't talk about anything else.
OJ
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BUT in a PvP server, restriction to BGs and Duel is totally..... WoWish, familly value, non competitive, non interesting.
Please only suggest about systems. If you are against PvP, go in a non PvP server.
WOW is an open world PVP with its faction system.
PK's are simply not worth it. It's frustrating, annoying and no-fun.
Ye i never myself bothered to play WoW *that* much but i remember when my friends raged when they were in Outlands and then there came something like 80level druid and killed him when he was doing quests and then that alliance member started to hunt him
The only game that open world PvP can even be called successful is EVE Online and that's kept in check because there are a lot of checks and balances. Every other game that has focused heavily on PvP and PK style gameplay has failed utterly, so saying there is a need for it seems to be a huge misnomer.
I'm sorry, but that's pretty much the facts.
Considering its a post-apocalyptic world where spellplague is rampant, and every area is dangerous with abominations, only safe place being city walls - think about the morale of residents when they see adventurers backstabbing each other instead of co-operating and saving people.
Why would they give you quests?
And you think the Mayor of cities would allow you to brandish weapons and terrorize the citizens in such a world where human (and others) co-operation is necessary ... sheesh.
I would say its better if you are thrown out of city for even brandishing weapons unless city is under attack!
To "BALANCE" PvP they screwup PvE. :eek:
If you perceive another class has an advantage then play that class and do not scream "NERF". :mad:
But there is a big potential here to bring the other part of the MMORPG community and make servers with GREAT pvp system to make it a GREAT game for everyone.
I don't think the debate should be about: Is it a coop game or not. MMORPG aren't coop game where you log into a LAN and play with your friends. It is about having a dynamic world where stuff happen.
As i said before, IF there is to have world PVP, there will be non PVP servers so you will have YOUR fun also. But i can tell you that, the other part of MMORPG community want open world PvP, just because it give the games an aspect of competition and it make it more real.
Trust me, in medieval times, you couldn't tell the warlord hunting you:' Hey this is a cooperative world, please leave me alone'. You had to fight for your life, for your familly and for your clan.
Bringing a game closer to reality is simply, the right away to go. Because in the long run, when you finish the 'casette'. What will you do? Wait for expantion and farm for golds? .... Boring ..... Roleplay ? I love to roleplay, but without real social, economic, war implication, it is totally useless. I am not too much into writing poems.
Sorry to say but to me that sounds like babbling of PvP freak, if they wont do PvP servers deal with it, play the game, dont play it. JUST WAIT
No, there isn't. Again, you have no precendent or even anything that proves your view correct. Everything that has focused on that facet has failed utterly. The only exception is EVE Online, which has a lot of checks and balances in place.
You are discussing a sandbox. Neverwinter is not a sandbox game.
There won't be multiple servers. Cryptic will undoubtedly continue what they've done and have one world server with many shards of specific zones to accommodate populations.
DnD is not a real life simulator.
No, it is not. A game is a game. Reality is reality. One is meant to entertain, the other is what you live in. People play games to escape, have fun, and not feel stress or pressure. Real life is where you live and take care of things.
You can try to state stuff, but DnD is not and never has been a PvP game. At best, an arena will be placed in. At most for open world you can expect is duels. This is a theme park game first and foremost.
What I really worried about is the new players who will jump in and are unfamiliar with dnd. Those who know dnd and have player before, may pvp and discourage those people.
Besides there are people who will be annoyed by pvp because they come here for rp, some may even have perma-death characters.
Considering all such players, people who want OPEN pvp are quite the minority and such a thing would hurt the prospects of the game. I want NWO to be popular so that the world is alive ... I don't want it to be a place which is equivalent of Mortal Combat on console.
The are other games which have better pvp. If you want to show your epeen-ness, show there instead of here, I would suggest.
Get used to it!
Why do I think that? Because I play CO & STO.
Wrong, for example Aeris is not an open pvp world and it works very well till today. Don't make up facts.
Meh, let's just ignore this topic. There are plenty other PvP topics on the forum.
Hyperbole doesn't prove your point, since the last I recalled, NWN 2 wasn't all that popular to begin with, compared to NWN 1. Again, I can easily prove this facet; How many MMOs are strictly PvP versus all the rest, and how successful are they? The real answer, they aren't very successful with most on the edge of death or already dead. EVE Online, again, is the only successful game on the market that offers that type of game play.
Oh well that's too bad. I shall beat the game in a week and change for something else :P
ok this made me laugh. If this is true then Xsyon and Mortal online wouldn't be such failures.