phaser build, must haves?

spy8446 · April 2017

im looking for a good mix of phasers for a phaser ship, I also want one of the omni phasers.
what ones should i be looking for?
I have the retro phaser, bio phaser, a random phaser, the phaser from the phaser set and 2 phaser turrets just because.

what would be a/some good phasers to add into this mix?

Agony or pulse phaser omni beam?

thoughts?

rattler2 · April 2017

Toss the turrets. If you're going with beams, go all in with beams as the turrets don't benefit from beam buffs.

Generally I'd lean more towards the Pulse Phasers as they have the proc for lowering enemy resistance while buffing your own. I would also suggest getting the full Quantum Phase set (beam array, console, torpedo) for a boost to Phaser damage as well as the 3 piece Quantum Phase beam clicky, which is a sustained phaser attack from your deflector. And I would also suggest at least getting 2 pieces of the Counter Command weapon/console set as that also gives a buff to phaser (go with the console and torpedo as I don't think they have a beam array).

Also I would suggest going with all one type of phaser other than the quantum phase array to synergize the procs more. So instead of having 1 beam that has a chance to disable, 1 with a DoT chance, one with the resist debuff/buff chance, have 5 or so that have a resist debuff/buff chance.

thunderfoot · April 2017

Quantum Phase Sets. Both of them. Mission rewards from Sunrise and Stormbound. Highly recommended.

rattler2 · April 2017

thunderfoot006 wrote: »

Quantum Phase Sets. Both of them. Mission rewards from Sunrise and Stormbound. Highly recommended.

Does the shield/engine/deflector set boost phaser? I thought it was more of a science leaning set...

tom61sto · April 2017

rattler2 wrote: »

thunderfoot006 wrote: »

Quantum Phase Sets. Both of them. Mission rewards from Sunrise and Stormbound. Highly recommended.

Does the shield/engine/deflector set boost phaser? I thought it was more of a science leaning set...

3 piece has a clicky that boosts all energy damage.

salazarraze · April 2017

rattler2 wrote: »

thunderfoot006 wrote: »

Quantum Phase Sets. Both of them. Mission rewards from Sunrise and Stormbound. Highly recommended.

Does the shield/engine/deflector set boost phaser? I thought it was more of a science leaning set...

It is science leaning as the shield gives shield heals based on using science boff powers. The whole set is drain heavy though as another poster said, there's a 3 piece set bonus that boosts all energy damage.

http://sto.gamepedia.com/Quantum_Phase_Applications
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Quantum_Phase_Catalysts

seriousdave · April 2017

Depending on your ship I'd leave out any of the omnis. Would be okay on a front heavy ship like escorts and some battlecruisers but on a 4/4 ship you're better off with regular beams that have decent mods.

As for sets, an old favorite of mine is still the nuakra 2pc which gives +2,5% weapon (bonus) damage. Tended use that one with the Nukara shield & engines + undine deflector (slightly buffs energy weapons, torps and accuracy) & core (core mostly for it's 2pc +5% defense), or any other core with AMP for that matter.
Also it's relatively easy to get since nukara marks are pretty easy to farm and there aren't elite versions.

Another strong contender is the iconian set. Very defensive stats but it's 3 & 4pc bonuses are still pretty good.
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Ability:_Energy_Augmentation_Actuator
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Ability:_Radiant_Subatomic_Pulse

nikeix · April 2017

seriousdave wrote: »

As for sets, an old favorite of mine is still the nuakra 2pc which gives +2,5% weapon (bonus) damage. Tended use that one with the Nukara shield & engines + undine deflector (slightly buffs energy weapons, torps and accuracy) & core (core mostly for it's 2pc +5% defense), or any other core with AMP for that matter.

Most those items are getting small buffs with the most recent patch on Tribble. Might finally break up the monotony of all-Iconian-all-the-time.

spy8446 · April 2017

Im currently flying the ...... intel cruiser? the last promo fed ship from ..... 2? months ago.
so the pulse phasers are the "best" ones to go for?

what about the omni phasers? agony and pulse, what one is better and why?

grumpyowl · April 2017

> @spy8446 said:
> Im currently flying the ...... intel cruiser? the last promo fed ship from ..... 2? months ago.
> so the pulse phasers are the "best" ones to go for?
>
> what about the omni phasers? agony and pulse, what one is better and why?

Aside from the Quantum Phase, I'd go with the pulse phasers. The debuff to your target's defense means that you and your team do more damage. This can be a real help as most enemies do not have resistance ratings so a debuff can actually take them into negative resistance. That's why disruptors have been so popular for so long. The pulse phaser has the added bonus of simultaneously improving your resistance. The three piece click attack from the Quantum Phase set can be a real beast if you have a high part gen rating.

Lose the turrets though. If you're going for a beam boat, the turrets will only hinder you. Also, given that your ship is a 4/4 layout cruiser, stay away from the Omni beams and go with beam arrays. Consider going for FAW 1 with BO3.

spy8446 · April 2017

i have the turrets just for something to be there, temp weapons, its why im looking into the omni beams ^_^

seriousdave · April 2017

Thing is, omnis are pretty pointless on broadsiders like the assault cruiser. Worse mods, higher acquisition costs, pointless when you broadside. Better stick with regular beams.

As for FAW 1 and BO3, better don't. Both get nerfed real hard with the upcoming "rebalancing".
BO looses the guaranteed crit and faw..... well....
B:FAW I -- 80% damage; -50% Accuracy
B:FAW II -- 85% damage; -40% Accuracy
B:FAW III -- 90% damage; -30% Accuracy

odinforever20000 · April 2017

seriousdave wrote: »

Thing is, omnis are pretty pointless on broadsiders like the assault cruiser. Worse mods, higher acquisition costs, pointless when you broadside. Better stick with regular beams.

As for FAW 1 and BO3, better don't. Both get nerfed real hard with the upcoming "rebalancing".
BO looses the guaranteed crit and faw..... well....
B:FAW I -- 80% damage; -50% Accuracy
B:FAW II -- 85% damage; -40% Accuracy
B:FAW III -- 90% damage; -30% Accuracy

Beam overload didn't really get nerfed...Just took away the 100% crit,buffed the damage and atted 50% crit sev and bonus damage to beam attacks for the next 10 sec

spy8446 · April 2017

i dont normally broadside enemy ships, i tend to make head on bombing runs, torp spread in the face, fly over head and drop something bigger on its head with high yield. i also like the idea of being able to directly shoot an enemy with 4-5 beams directly instead of the 3 forward weapons.

just my taste.

asuran14 · April 2017

I go for pulse phasers a lot, but also I find I like to use the Phased Biomatter phaser type (the one that has a chance to cause phaser based aoe damage up to four targets around your main target.). I actually find phased the bio-matter phaser type quite good in a cannon build, since they seem to proc the aoe phaser damage quite well.

steaen · April 2017

You may also wish to consider the Alternate Timeline Set - you can pick up the Mining Drill Laser and Proton Charge Launcher fairly cheaply on the Exchange, and slotting those two gives you +25% Phaser Damage and (if applicable) +25% Photon Torpedo Damage as a 2-pc bonus.

The Mining Drill also gives +3 to current and maximum Shield Subsystem Power and a boost to shield hitpoints, while the Proton Charge offers the same but to Engine Subsystem Power and hull hitpoints respectively.

spy8446 · April 2017

I have one of the bio phasers and set bio torpedo and turret, the retro phaser (upgraded to XV i think with 500 damage) i have the Quantum Phase set, the one random phaser and random phaser turret.

shields and eng etc, mix and match of 2-3 sets.

i know there is/was a way to show my ship, but i cant remember the site or anything.

rattler2 · April 2017

Still... the turrets will not help you in the long run with a beam build. Also would be a good idea to get your non Quantum Phase arrays to be all the same flavor of Phaser to maximize your proc chance rather than mixing different types. So for example if you picked up the Pulse Phaser Omni, I'd recommend working towards getting the rest of your arrays swapped over to Pulse Phaser so that each array has a chance at the same proc.

spy8446 · April 2017

humm good point.
what about the Agony though? i dont recall anyone saying anything about it, is it any good?

hillard1959 · April 2017

Agony is kinda "meh" imo.

What I'm currently doing is a full Counter-Command build on my Tac's Valiant. The space set gives a lot of good defense, while the weapon set and the weapons you get from the reputation also gives radiation damage. It probably will not wow anybody with top damage, but so far it's been fun to fly.

Edit: Oh, yeah. The space set also buffs your accuracy, which is going to be kind of important when the space revamp finally hits holodeck. Especially if you're running CSV.

talonxv · April 2017

For my defiant I run the following.

front:
Quad phasers(from tier 4 defiant), Quantum phase DHC(yes there is the option of getting DHC instead of beam array), Quantum phase torpedo(from the set), Agony DHC.

Rear:
X3 Agony phaser turrets.

Works decently well.

questerius · April 2017

talonxv wrote: »

For my defiant I run the following.

front:
Quad phasers(from tier 4 defiant), Quantum phase DHC(yes there is the option of getting DHC instead of beam array), Quantum phase torpedo(from the set), Agony DHC.

Rear:
X3 Agony phaser turrets.

Works decently well.

If you're going for the agony proc, you're probably better off with agony DC instead of DHC.

rattler2 · April 2017

spy8446 wrote: »

what about the Agony though? i dont recall anyone saying anything about it, is it any good?

It is kinda meh. Has the canon orange look, but instead of a disable it has a DoT.

spy8446 · April 2017

i see, so there are also agony beam arrays? i did not know that, WHAT ELSE HAVE YOU NOT TOLD ME!!!!

the moment i get a phaser beam, im tossing the turrets out right away ...... if its worth it.

talonxv · April 2017

questerius wrote: »

talonxv wrote: »

For my defiant I run the following.

front:
Quad phasers(from tier 4 defiant), Quantum phase DHC(yes there is the option of getting DHC instead of beam array), Quantum phase torpedo(from the set), Agony DHC.

Rear:
X3 Agony phaser turrets.

Works decently well.

If you're going for the agony proc, you're probably better off with agony DC instead of DHC.

I was looking for DHC normal phasers lvl 12 purple, agony was cheap at the time so I grabbed. It is working out so far.

talonxv · April 2017

spy8446 wrote: »

i see, so there are also agony beam arrays? i did not know that, WHAT ELSE HAVE YOU NOT TOLD ME!!!!

the moment i get a phaser beam, im tossing the turrets out right away ...... if its worth it.

If you want to go arrays, get a craftable omni phaser, pick one of the reward omni's for craps and giggles, then get lvl 2 in the borg rep, and get the Kinetic cutting beam. Gives you basically 3 omni beam arrays ontop of your phasers. It helps.

spy8446 · April 2017

yeah I was hoping that i could have had 3 phaser omni, but im still changing things on the ship so guess i will have to see what comes with what.

seriousdave · April 2017

spy8446 wrote: »

yeah I was hoping that i could have had 3 phaser omni, but im still changing things on the ship so guess i will have to see what comes with what.

Unfortunately we can't equip more than 1 omni phaser yet. Lockbox omnis & craftable omnis fall into the same category, for some reason.

And since cryptic never delivered on episode based omni phaser/disruptor/plasma beams we're still stuck with 1 + KCB.

asuran14 · April 2017

Yeah it is quite annoying that we do not have access to a mission based omni-array for the phaser/disruptor/plasma types that are the primary energy types of the three main factions. It would have been nice if in the two missions we get a beam array for our phaser (sunrise), and even disruptor (blood of ancient, and Echoes of light) that maybe the three piece set bonus also turned the beam array of the set into a 360 degree firing arc via a arc bonus.

curme · April 2017

I'm running a phaser build and keeping everything orange, which means I lose out on some cool sets

I wish there was an option to change weapon color.

spy8446 · April 2017

i like rainbows ^_^ lets me know what weapon is actually being fired, the counter command phaser turret is very slow firing, and doesnt always fire when i use its .... rapid fire? set ability.

phaser build, must haves?

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