In one corner, hailing from the planet Krieg,
Hailing from the Federation,
"The meaning of victory is not to merely defeat your enemy but to destroy him, to completely eradicate him from living memory, to leave no remnant of his endeavours, to crush utterly his achievement and remove from all record his every trace of existence. From that defeat no enemy can ever recover. That is the meaning of victory."
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
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Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
Or Chuck Norris.
Or Chuck Norris as Batman!
Where the Federation might stand a chance is 1v1 or squad v squad at which point it comes down feds superior technology against Death Korps better fighting experience and shear will to do what ever it takes to win.
Warhammer has easily accessable planet killing methods, rifles that are basically grenade launchers (Bolters), space magic, and most of the species FTL tech basically sends then through basically Hell. Not only that, their ships are HUGE compared to even most Star Wars ships, let alone Star Trek.
Why? Do they wear hats that deflect spatial torpedoes?
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Your average Krieg guardsman has a Lucius Pattern Lasrifle, krak and melta grenades for weapons
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
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Only on the finial training day they go to the surface and have to survive on nuclear-blasted battlefields. The only education, the only job, the only training on that planet is how to wage war from birth to death. Every troop knows how to use and protect against biological and chemical agents and survive bombardment.
The Krieg way of warfare is attrition. They don’t care about losses, if it takes millions of troops to wear the enemy down then so be it. They will make that attrition cost and not care one bit counting it as a win. If it takes 5+ years and 100 million troops that's a win.
Gorgon heavy transport
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/3/3f/GorgonTransportArt.jpg to give you an idea of scale that front dozer blade is about the size of a modern tank.
One of my favorite units is the Death Riders of Krieg on genetically modified horses with gas masks on the horse. https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Death_Korps_of_Krieg?file=Death_Rider_of_Krieg.jpg
In a full ground war I do not see how the Federation would stand a chance. Now in space that's a different matter but on the ground the biological and chemical agents would devastate the Federation troops. In a ground war I am not sure even the Borg would win. The reason being the Death Korps of Krieg do not care about the environment or infrastructure and will use any weapon to win no matter how devastating even to themselves. Nuclear and worse, virus, nerve agents anything goes. The Death Korps of Krieg in space would not stand a chance.
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
That said if MACOs get Starfleet ships for support, I'd say the Death Korps would get imperial navy support. The thing to remember about the Imperium of Man is that they know about space superiority and unless the MACOs are attacking the planet Krieg itself, the Death Korps has to be transported there and Imperium's military transports are armed and you probably gonna have a handful of Cobras or Swords escorting those transports (loosing the men isn't that bad, but loosing the hardware due to laziness is unacceptble). Oh and both the sword and cobra are about 1.6km long and they're the lightest ships the Imperium has.
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Sword_Frigate
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Cobra_Destroyer
EDIT:The Death Korps's way of fighting relies of constant supply of replacements to the losses, so imperium would not deploy them without securing space superiority first, unless there was really no other option.
The Departmento munitorum (essentially the department/ministry of defense for the imperium) controls both the navy and the guard as far as deployments go and while the guard commanders cannot directly command navy forces joint deployments aren't that rare as long as both sides maintain seperate chains of command.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Correct. But as the OP said MACO and not Starfleet Security then it's obviously prior to the formation of the Federation and the Franklin is still a MACO ship.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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If the Death korps in on the defensive, orbital support isn't the "silver bullet" people think it would be. Krieg was blasted into a radioactive wasteland by centuries long civil war that involved ballistic missiles and the first members of the Death Korps were survivors of that war and formed the tactics of the Death Korps based on that war. So on the defensive anti-nuclear bunkers and seal strutures are a must. Orbital support isn't after all not unheard of in WH40k.
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Deathtroops of War sounds like a band.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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> Deathtroops of War sounds like a band.
Early speed metal to be precise. I'm calling it, alternative band name for Blind Guardian.
Deathtroops of War - Battalions of Fear.
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I'm thinking Power Metal. Sabaton most likely.
Deathtroops of War - The Last Stand.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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