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lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
I though a thread for discussing them would be cool.

First off hopefully they will come with a Bridge and Interior that feels Cardassian.

Secondly making them Intel ships with cloaking makes them feel very Obisidian Orderish.

By the way did anyone else notice that they didn't just have cloaks, they have Cardassian Cloaks, like most other ships that cloak don't have racially named cloaks, except the Romans and the Voth sort of.

Do you think it means there cloaking tech works differently from other cloaks? Even just a different visual?

Also like that they get a 3 ships that nicely fill multiple niches. Intel Science Dreadnaught is Science ship (not sure if there is a difference between Science Ships and Science Dreadnaughts), Intel Flight Deck Cruiser fills the cruiser niche, but in way that is different from the Valor and Keldon class cruisers, plus gives us a taste of a Cardassian Carrier might be like, and Intel Cardassian Escort gives us an idea of their offensive power.

Also looking at the ships designs does anyone else think that they are going to be able to swap parts in the ship customizer? Maybe with the Galor and Keldor as well.

Also I'm curious what traits, consoles, pets, heavy weapon, and secondary deflector these ships will come with and if they can equipt Galor and Keldor consoles and weapons.

Also the traits on the playable Cardassians look cool. I bet you can get Cardassians if you buy any Cardassian ship, even if it's just 1. I could be wrong.
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  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    Okay looked up Science Dreadnaughts there are three ships of that type and they all had 4 foreward weapons, 3 rear weapons, could equipt dual cannons, and have a Hangar Bay.

    Also I realized what the Cardassians ships prefix will be from Garaks ship admirality card.

    C.U.V. i assume it stands for Cardassian Union Vessel.
  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    lordgyor wrote: »
    I though a thread for discussing them would be cool.

    First off hopefully they will come with a Bridge and Interior that feels Cardassian.

    Secondly making them Intel ships with cloaking makes them feel very Obisidian Orderish.

    By the way did anyone else notice that they didn't just have cloaks, they have Cardassian Cloaks, like most other ships that cloak don't have racially named cloaks, except the Romans and the Voth sort of.

    Do you think it means there cloaking tech works differently from other cloaks? Even just a different visual?

    Also like that they get a 3 ships that nicely fill multiple niches. Intel Science Dreadnaught is Science ship (not sure if there is a difference between Science Ships and Science Dreadnaughts), Intel Flight Deck Cruiser fills the cruiser niche, but in way that is different from the Valor and Keldon class cruisers, plus gives us a taste of a Cardassian Carrier might be like, and Intel Cardassian Escort gives us an idea of their offensive power.

    Also looking at the ships designs does anyone else think that they are going to be able to swap parts in the ship customizer? Maybe with the Galor and Keldor as well.

    Also I'm curious what traits, consoles, pets, heavy weapon, and secondary deflector these ships will come with and if they can equipt Galor and Keldor consoles and weapons.

    Also the traits on the playable Cardassians look cool. I bet you can get Cardassians if you buy any Cardassian ship, even if it's just 1. I could be wrong.

    Canonically the Keldon class had cloaks, only because the Obsidian Order and Tal Shiar were working together. But it seems the old Keldon class has been phased out of the new Cardassian union, left to collectors. I doubt any other Keldon class ships would have cloaks since the Romulan-Cardassian alliance was short lived and confined only to the intelligence units.
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  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    lordgyor wrote: »
    First off hopefully they will come with a Bridge and Interior that feels Cardassian.

    I asked our good ambassador in the official thread, but he hasn't had the time to respond yet (or has missed the post in the multitude of other posts), so I'll use this opportunity to ask once more - @ambassadorkael#6946 , can you inform us whether the new Cardassian ships have Cardassian bridges? Sorry if I'm annoying you with this. :)
    lordgyor wrote: »
    By the way did anyone else notice that they didn't just have cloaks, they have Cardassian Cloaks, like most other ships that cloak don't have racially named cloaks, except the Romans and the Voth sort of.

    Do you think it means there cloaking tech works differently from other cloaks? Even just a different visual?

    I certainly hope so. Those few distinct details we have left and get from time to time to distinguish the technology and faction specific ships are very important for me in terms of getting a unique feel out of playing a certain profile. So, I'd very much appreciate for the Cardassian Cloak to be something different even if it means 'weaker' or just cosmetic in terms of visuals.
    lordgyor wrote: »
    Also I'm curious what traits, consoles, pets, heavy weapon, and secondary deflector these ships will come with and if they can equipt Galor and Keldor consoles and weapons.

    I hope they'll all come equipped with spiral-wave disruptors. That would add a nice bit of flavor to the uniqueness of these ships and Cardassians in general.

    On another note, I love the designs. They look awesome! They remind me of Cryptic's design of Klingon ships and how they almost always nail it when it comes to Klingon design. Now that I see that repeating on the Cardassian ships and as a Cardassian fan and future Cardie player, it makes me immensely happy. The 3 new Cardasian ships are perfect, they just feel so right. And that Damar class looks sexy as hell, I doubt I'll ever step out of that one - gonna' have to dedicate one of my Cardassians to that ship entirely - I'm in love with it since I first laid my eyes on it.
    lordgyor wrote: »
    Also the traits on the playable Cardassians look cool. I bet you can get Cardassians if you buy any Cardassian ship, even if it's just 1. I could be wrong.

    I'll just buy Cardassian everything. :p
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  • terranempire#7881 terranempire Member Posts: 1,222 Arc User
    shpoks wrote: »
    lordgyor wrote: »
    First off hopefully they will come with a Bridge and Interior that feels Cardassian.

    I asked our good ambassador in the official thread, but he hasn't had the time to respond yet (or has missed the post in the multitude of other posts), so I'll use this opportunity to ask once more - @ambassadorkael#6946 , can you inform us whether the new Cardassian ships have Cardassian bridges? Sorry if I'm annoying you with this. :)
    lordgyor wrote: »
    By the way did anyone else notice that they didn't just have cloaks, they have Cardassian Cloaks, like most other ships that cloak don't have racially named cloaks, except the Romans and the Voth sort of.

    Do you think it means there cloaking tech works differently from other cloaks? Even just a different visual?

    I certainly hope so. Those few distinct details we have left and get from time to time to distinguish the technology and faction specific ships are very important for me in terms of getting a unique feel out of playing a certain profile. So, I'd very much appreciate for the Cardassian Cloak to be something different even if it means 'weaker' or just cosmetic in terms of visuals.
    lordgyor wrote: »
    Also I'm curious what traits, consoles, pets, heavy weapon, and secondary deflector these ships will come with and if they can equipt Galor and Keldor consoles and weapons.

    I hope they'll all come equipped with spiral-wave disruptors. That would add a nice bit of flavor to the uniqueness of these ships and Cardassians in general.

    On another note, I love the designs. They look awesome! They remind me of Cryptic's design of Klingon ships and how they almost always nail it when it comes to Klingon design. Now that I see that repeating on the Cardassian ships and as a Cardassian fan and future Cardie player, it makes me immensely happy. The 3 new Cardasian ships are perfect, they just feel so right. And that Damar class looks sexy as hell, I doubt I'll ever step out of that one - gonna' have to dedicate one of my Cardassians to that ship entirely - I'm in love with it since I first laid my eyes on it.
    lordgyor wrote: »
    Also the traits on the playable Cardassians look cool. I bet you can get Cardassians if you buy any Cardassian ship, even if it's just 1. I could be wrong.

    I'll just buy Cardassian everything. :p
    Cardassia first!!!

    I am just sad that there won't be any old Cardassian uniforms to wear or the new npc one with the Union badge.

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    And no Cardassian ground weapons or rank system:

    Gil
    Glinn
    Dalin
    Dal
    Gul
    Jagul
    Legate

    or "Congratulations, [rank]!" messages.

    "Congratulations, Gul! Oooh, these must be such exciting times for you. A new ship, a bigger crew, new assignments...but I am quite optimistic that you will rise to the challenge. And you really should go visit a tailor and make sure your uniform reflects your new, well earned, rank."​​
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  • terranempire#7881 terranempire Member Posts: 1,222 Arc User
    Also having a hard time thinking of new Cardassian names. Especially their surnames.​​
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  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    Also having a hard time thinking of new Cardassian names. Especially their surnames.​​

    Cardassian names are easy. Just take known names and swap out a letter or two.

    "Damar" becomes "Lakar" for example or "Dukat" becomes "Ramat."
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  • annemarie30annemarie30 Member Posts: 2,698 Arc User
    Also having a hard time thinking of new Cardassian names. Especially their surnames.​​

    Cardassian names are easy. Just take known names and swap out a letter or two.

    "Damar" becomes "Lakar" for example or "Dukat" becomes "Ramat."

    well here are a hundred names from canon
    http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Cardassians
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    In terms of storyline playing, I’m much more interested in playing Jem’hadar than a Cardie. Wouldn’t mind a Cardasian First Officer though.
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  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User

    I am just sad that there won't be any old Cardassian uniforms to wear or the new npc one with the Union badge.

    startrekonline_costume_design_by_chris_legaspi.jpg

    And no Cardassian ground weapons or rank system:

    Gil
    Glinn
    Dalin
    Dal
    Gul
    Jagul
    Legate

    or "Congratulations, [rank]!" messages.

    "Congratulations, Gul! Oooh, these must be such exciting times for you. A new ship, a bigger crew, new assignments...but I am quite optimistic that you will rise to the challenge. And you really should go visit a tailor and make sure your uniform reflects your new, well earned, rank."​​

    I'm fairly certain we'll have the uniforms, either as an later "surprise" addition to the Gamma Pack or as an uniform option available for purchase via the C-Store. If not that, I'm 100% sure they'll come for 200 lobi in a upcoming lockbox. Selling the uniforms to Cardassian fans is a no-brainer and I think even Cryptic realizes that.

    As for the rank system, yeah, it kinda bugs me as well, but I intend to put the preferred rank as a part of the name of my Cardassian characters, so that's kinda' a workaround at least. At this point, I'm taking it as it is and working with what they give me, before the Gamma Pack announcement, I wasn't sure we'll even have the option to fly proper Cardassian ships. Now that we do, next step is to see if we get Cardassian Boffs and to bug them for the uniforms. One step at a time, but at least I get to play a proper Cardassian in a Cardassian ship. :)
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  • terranempire#7881 terranempire Member Posts: 1,222 Arc User
    Also having a hard time thinking of new Cardassian names. Especially their surnames.

    Cardassian names are easy. Just take known names and swap out a letter or two.

    "Damar" becomes "Lakar" for example or "Dukat" becomes "Ramat."

    well here are a hundred names from canon
    http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Cardassians

    Thanks guys. Had a good hard look and found a few I like. Probably going to play around with the Gul surnames until I settle on one.

    Does Gul "Zarel" sound alright? I thought about "Zarale". But remembered he was disgraced by being killed by a Bajoran farmer while being caught naked in a river bathing ... Just thinking of that makes me chuckle.​​
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  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    > @terranempire#7881 said:
    > annemarie30 wrote: »
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    > salazarraze wrote: »
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    > terranempire#7881 wrote: »
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    > Also having a hard time thinking of new Cardassian names. Especially their surnames.
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    > Cardassian names are easy. Just take known names and swap out a letter or two.
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    > "Damar" becomes "Lakar" for example or "Dukat" becomes "Ramat."
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    > well here are a hundred names from canon
    > http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Cardassians
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    > Thanks guys. Had a good hard look and found a few I like. Probably going to play around with the Gul surnames until I settle on one.
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    > Does Gul "Zarel" sound alright? I thought about "Zarale". But remembered he was disgraced by being killed by a Bajoran farmer while being caught naked in a river bathing ... Just thinking of that makes me chuckle.​​

    I like it.
  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    I was looking at the Keldon Cruisers stats and if you can equipt its console on the other new Cardassian ships, which likely will have Commander Intel Seats given they are full on Intel ships, it will be massively cool as the console reduces cool down of Intel boff powers and boost disruptor damage.

    Oh and the console is a spiral wave disurptor lance.

    Imagine say the Damar/Ghemor/Dapata class ships with the Spiral Wave Disruptor Lance console, what ever consoles they come with and armed with Spiral Wave Disruptors (which I think look like phasers and even have the phaser proc so it will look like the show) and the Bioneural Warhead which is Cardassian technology after all. Oh and in the case of Damar and Ghemor class Cardassian fighter Hangar or maybe Hideki Frigate Hangar Bay. And a Cardassian style Heavy Weapon for the Dapata Intel Escort.

    Btw does anyone else think all the playable Cardassian ships will be able to share parts if you own them?

    I'm really looking forward to finding out these ship stats.
  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    I don't remember the last time I was this excited for a Season/Expansion!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • marty123#3757 marty123 Member Posts: 674 Arc User
    edited April 2018
    > @lordgyor said:
    > Okay looked up Science Dreadnaughts there are three ships of that type and they all had 4 foreward weapons, 3 rear weapons, could equipt dual cannons, and have a Hangar Bay.
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    > Also I realized what the Cardassians ships prefix will be from Garaks ship admirality card.
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    > C.U.V. i assume it stands for Cardassian Union Vessel.

    We saw this previously in Midnight, the Keldon-class C.U.V. Damar
  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    > @marty123#3757 said:
    > > @lordgyor said:
    > > Okay looked up Science Dreadnaughts there are three ships of that type and they all had 4 foreward weapons, 3 rear weapons, could equipt dual cannons, and have a Hangar Bay.
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    > > Also I realized what the Cardassians ships prefix will be from Garaks ship admirality card.
    > >
    > > C.U.V. i assume it stands for Cardassian Union Vessel.
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    > We saw this previously in Midnight, the Keldon-class C.U.V. Damar

    Thanks. Its funny they have a Keldon Class ship called the Damar and a Damar Class ship now. Anyone else not surprised that the Cardassians wouldn't name a ship after Dukat hehehe, after all his evil.
  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    I think Intel seating matches the Cardassians. Plus, I think Intel has the best overall powers. Granted I've played with those more than the others, but I have tried all the specs at least a bit.
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  • terranempire#7881 terranempire Member Posts: 1,222 Arc User
    lordgyor wrote: »

    Thanks. Its funny they have a Keldon Class ship called the Damar and a Damar Class ship now. Anyone else not surprised that the Cardassians wouldn't name a ship after Dukat hehehe, after all his evil.

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    Poor Dukat :( But remember "one man's villain is another man's hero".

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    Darhe'el should get one named after him for his accomplishments. After all his men "loved him for it."​​
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  • mneme0mneme0 Member Posts: 498 Arc User
    lordgyor wrote: »
    I'm really looking forward to finding out these ship stats.

    I have washed my drool cup and put it in a place of readiness on my desk.

  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    I don't even need the stats, I'm just mesmerized at how beautiful they look and the quality of the design. :D
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  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    > @shpoks said:
    > I don't even need the stats, I'm just mesmerized at how beautiful they look and the quality of the design. :D

    Yes they are pretty, but when we get the stats we will get to know if they can switch parts as I suspect, including maybe with the Galor and Kheldon if one has them.

    Plus I want to know what kind of fighters it comes with and if the Hideki frigate will be an option as a Hangar Bay.
  • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 3,215 Arc User
    For gods sake Cryptic, please add the Cardassian uniform as a C-Store costume.
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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    The Hideki is essentially nothing more than a corvette with a few spiral wave disruptors, larger than a fighter but smaller than a frigate.

    It would be an interesting area to explore as star trek online hasn't dealt with Corvettes in a true sense before. i mean there is the Orion and Risian corvettes, but they are classified as frigates.
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  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    avoozuul wrote: »
    For gods sake Cryptic, please add the Cardassian uniform as a C-Store costume.

    I second this motion!
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  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    > @mirrorchaos said:
    > The Hideki is essentially nothing more than a corvette with a few spiral wave disruptors, larger than a fighter but smaller than a frigate.
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    > It would be an interesting area to explore as star trek online hasn't dealt with Corvettes in a true sense before. i mean there is the Orion and Risian corvettes, but they are classified as frigates.

    So its basically a shuttle craft, maybe a big shuttle craft or heavy fighter in STO terms.
  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    lordgyor wrote: »
    > @mirrorchaos said:
    > The Hideki is essentially nothing more than a corvette with a few spiral wave disruptors, larger than a fighter but smaller than a frigate.
    >
    > It would be an interesting area to explore as star trek online hasn't dealt with Corvettes in a true sense before. i mean there is the Orion and Risian corvettes, but they are classified as frigates.

    So its basically a shuttle craft, maybe a big shuttle craft or heavy fighter in STO terms.

    a very large shuttle, yes.
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  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    I also support Cyptic making the uniforms for Cardassians.
  • terranempire#7881 terranempire Member Posts: 1,222 Arc User
    Hope the ships come with cardie bridges.


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    Although imo they are a bit too big. And not sure I like the lights on the last picture.

    Think I prefer the red on DS9 cargo ship Groumall more.

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  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    > @terranempire#7881 said:
    > Hope the ships come with cardie bridges.
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    > Although imo they are a bit too big. And not sure I like the lights on the last picture.
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    > Think I prefer the red on DS9 cargo ship Groumall more.
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    Those bridges looked cool.
  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Hideki_class


    https://sto.gamepedia.com/Hideki_Class

    Memory Alpha suggests they were Patrol Ships, Fighters, and Shuttles, but STO has them as Frigates.

    I'm really curious what they will do for Cardassian Hangar Pets.
  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Cardassian_pursuit_vessel

    Perhaps the pets will be Cardassian Pursuit Vessels.
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