> @lordgyor said: > I was looking at the Keldon Cruisers stats and if you can equipt its console on the other new Cardassian ships, which likely will have Commander Intel Seats given they are full on Intel ships, it will be massively cool as the console reduces cool down of Intel boff powers and boost disruptor damage. > > Oh and the console is a spiral wave disurptor lance. > > Imagine say the Damar/Ghemor/Dapata class ships with the Spiral Wave Disruptor Lance console, what ever consoles they come with and armed with Spiral Wave Disruptors (which I think look like phasers and even have the phaser proc so it will look like the show) and the Bioneural Warhead which is Cardassian technology after all. Oh and in the case of Damar and Ghemor class Cardassian fighter Hangar or maybe Hideki Frigate Hangar Bay. And a Cardassian style Heavy Weapon for the Dapata Intel Escort. > > Btw does anyone else think all the playable Cardassian ships will be able to share parts if you own them? > > I'm really looking forward to finding out these ship stats.
I screwed that up, the Bioneural Warhead was designed by a Delta Quadrant race, I confused it with Cardassian ATR-4107 which isn't in the game yet. I could see the ATR missile being a console or maybe even the Dapata Intel Escort's Heavy Weapon.
Although imo they are a bit too big. And not sure I like the lights on the last picture.
Think I prefer the red on DS9 cargo ship Groumall more.
At this point I just want them to utilize these bridges, too big or not. I would be over the moon if they have designed a new, more adequate Cardassian bridge for the new ships, of course. However, I would very much prefer even these larger bridges that are already in the game opposed to having to use a default Klingon/Starfleet bridge on a Cardassian ship.
> @shpoks said: > terranempire#7881 wrote: » > > Hope the ships come with cardie bridges. > > > > > > > > > Although imo they are a bit too big. And not sure I like the lights on the last picture. > > Think I prefer the red on DS9 cargo ship Groumall more. > > > > > > > At this point I just want them to utilize these bridges, too big or not. I would be over the moon if they have designed a new, more adequate Cardassian bridge for the new ships, of course. However, I would very much prefer even these larger bridges that are already in the game opposed to having to use a default Klingon/Starfleet bridge on a Cardassian ship.
I tend to prefer big bridges, so I even if they design new bridges I'd want the big Cardassian bridges to remain an option.
Secondly making them Intel ships with cloaking makes them feel very Obisidian Orderish.
All full Intel ships have cloaking devices, it's a standard feature. I'd say the fact that they're all Intel ships is a definite callback to the Obsidian Order, though. I'd bet Garak had a lot of input in their design
> @lnblade said: > lordgyor wrote: » > > Secondly making them Intel ships with cloaking makes them feel very Obisidian Orderish. > > > > All full Intel ships have cloaking devices, it's a standard feature. I'd say the fact that they're all Intel ships is a definite callback to the Obsidian Order, though. I'd bet Garak had a lot of input in their design
We know they have the Cardassian Skin, but I wonder if they can use the Tron like Intel skins?
> @lordgyor said: > > @lnblade said: > > lordgyor wrote: » > > > > Secondly making them Intel ships with cloaking makes them feel very Obisidian Orderish. > > > > > > > > All full Intel ships have cloaking devices, it's a standard feature. I'd say the fact that they're all Intel ships is a definite callback to the Obsidian Order, though. I'd bet Garak had a lot of input in their design > > We know they have the Cardassian Skin, but I wonder if they can use the Tron like Intel skins?
Probably not Klingon and Romulan intel ships don’t
I was thinking of just buying the Vanguard Pack, but $130usd ends up $166.77cad . I'm Canadian so if it's going to be in the C-Store I'll save more money using a mix of Zen I'll have banked and buying more Zen.
> @lordgyor said: > I was thinking of just buying the Vanguard Pack, but $130usd ends up $166.77cad . I'm Canadian so if it's going to be in the C-Store I'll save more money using a mix of Zen I'll have banked and buying more Zen. >
What am I saying, I really only want playable Cardassians, Cardassian Intel Ships, and the trio of Jem'hadar Vanguard ships. So that would be 6,000 Zen for the Cardassian Ships, another 6,000 Zen for the Jem'hadar Ships, for 120,000 Zen for both, plus whatever for Cardassians.
So maybe I'll buy the Cardassian three ship bundle at first and then later save up for the Vanguard 3 ship bundle. I don't need all the gravy of the Vanguard Pack. Much easier on my wallet, especially with the way exchange rate is.
Just saw the Cardassian cosmetics for females. And it looks pretty dead awful. 3 hair styles. And the textures look horrific. All short and they look like blobs. Like someone poured stale cream on their heads. None of them look like the ones from the TV shows or even the old Npcs in-game. Ontop of that they don't have the uniforms or Ranks. Yeah... putting me off buying the pack until that is sorted.
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> @terranempire#7881 said: > Just saw the Cardassian cosmetics for females. And it looks pretty dead awful. 3 hair styles. And the textures look horrific. All short and they look like blobs. Like someone poured stale cream on their heads. None of them look like the ones from the TV shows or even the old Npcs in-game. Ontop of that they don't have the uniforms or Ranks. Yeah... putting me off buying the pack until that is sorted.
Just saw the Cardassian cosmetics for females. And it looks pretty dead awful. 3 hair styles. And the textures look horrific. All short and they look like blobs. Like someone poured stale cream on their heads. None of them look like the ones from the TV shows or even the old Npcs in-game. Ontop of that they don't have the uniforms or Ranks. Yeah... putting me off buying the pack until that is sorted.
Well, TBH, there's still a while to go until the expansion is released on Holodeck. I'm sure it's a work in progress and it will be polished by the time it's released.
Pretty sure Cardassian uniforms will come soon enough, one way or the other. It's an opportunity Cryptic doesn't usually miss.
I know they are not finished yet (least I hope not) because the hairstyles are a huge disappointment. Three hair types? Come on.... And none of them even look like the ones from the DS9 show... On top of that no cardie uniforms and it has completely put me off playing them until they correct it.
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> @terranempire#7881 said:
> Just saw the Cardassian cosmetics for females. And it looks pretty dead awful. 3 hair styles. And the textures look horrific. All short and they look like blobs. Like someone poured stale cream on their heads. None of them look like the ones from the TV shows or even the old Npcs in-game. Ontop of that they don't have the uniforms or Ranks. Yeah... putting me off buying the pack until that is sorted.
Where did you see them?
I posted the video on another thread explaining it. From YouTube, think on the test server. I have accesses to the test server as well, but I don't want to download another 17GB to look at it myself in detail. Thankfully others do so I don't have too.
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Just saw the Cardassian cosmetics for females. And it looks pretty dead awful. 3 hair styles. And the textures look horrific. All short and they look like blobs. Like someone poured stale cream on their heads. None of them look like the ones from the TV shows or even the old Npcs in-game. Ontop of that they don't have the uniforms or Ranks. Yeah... putting me off buying the pack until that is sorted.
Well, TBH, there's still a while to go until the expansion is released on Holodeck. I'm sure it's a work in progress and it will be polished by the time it's released.
Pretty sure Cardassian uniforms will come soon enough, one way or the other. It's an opportunity Cryptic doesn't usually miss.
We can only pray to the rng gods that they deliver.
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I watched the video and it's insanely clear that the hair styles offered we're just place holders, I mean they looked the lego character hair. Remember this is from tribble, its not a finished product.
Taking a closer look the last two wouldn't be so bad if they added a hair extension. Like a long braid of hair (pony tail) running down their backs (or non braided) with a few strands of hair trailing down in front of both sides of their ears. IDK....
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I watched the video and it's insanely clear that the hair styles offered we're just place holders, I mean they looked the lego character hair. Remember this is from tribble, its not a finished product.
Ok.... Maybe I jumped the gun. Sure hope I am wrong.
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No way is that even close to done. The hair well its what was said all ready lego hair. ViL is over a month away they have time to add more hair and fix what is there all ready.
Intel Science Dreadnaught is Science ship (not sure if there is a difference between Science Ships and Science Dreadnaughts), Intel Flight Deck Cruiser fills the cruiser niche, but in way that is different from the Valor and Keldon class cruisers, plus gives us a taste of a Cardassian Carrier might be like, and Intel Cardassian Escort gives us an idea of their offensive power.
Actually, there is no such official ship type called "Science Ship". The closest in that context is the Science Vessel ship type. And there is some speculation regarding what Cryptic requires for something to be a Science Dreadnought(such as the commonalities between the Annorax, the Paradox the Collector and soon, the Damar)
Also, it's "Science Dreadnought", not "Science Dreadnaught".
Here is hoping they put a couple of Queen Amidala type hair in there.
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Just saw the Cardassian cosmetics for females. And it looks pretty dead awful. 3 hair styles. And the textures look horrific. All short and they look like blobs. Like someone poured stale cream on their heads. None of them look like the ones from the TV shows or even the old Npcs in-game. Ontop of that they don't have the uniforms or Ranks. Yeah... putting me off buying the pack until that is sorted.
Well, TBH, there's still a while to go until the expansion is released on Holodeck. I'm sure it's a work in progress and it will be polished by the time it's released.
Pretty sure Cardassian uniforms will come soon enough, one way or the other. It's an opportunity Cryptic doesn't usually miss.
Also, a while back Cryptic updated the way Cardassian NPCs look so that there are now female Cardassian enemies.
> @orangeitis said: > Li'l bit of clarification here for the OP. lordgyor wrote: » > > Intel Science Dreadnaught is Science ship (not sure if there is a difference between Science Ships and Science Dreadnaughts), Intel Flight Deck Cruiser fills the cruiser niche, but in way that is different from the Valor and Keldon class cruisers, plus gives us a taste of a Cardassian Carrier might be like, and Intel Cardassian Escort gives us an idea of their offensive power. > > > > Actually, there is no such official ship type called "Science Ship". The closest in that context is the Science Vessel ship type. And there is some speculation regarding what Cryptic requires for something to be a Science Dreadnought(such as the commonalities between the Annorax, the Paradox the Collector and soon, the Damar) > > Also, it's "Science Dreadnought", not "Science Dreadnaught".
Every single Science Dreadnought to date has had 4/3 weapons, a hangar bay and low for a Science Vessel turn rate. There are 4 different classes of them so far, not including the Damar class, and these traits have been consistent with them all.
So I'd be very shocked if the Damar doesn't have 4/3 weapons, a Hangar Bay, and a low for a Science Vessel turn rate. In a sense Science Dreadnoughts are the hybrid versions of the Dreadnought Carriers, trading a Hangar Bay for a secondary Deflector Dish and Sensor Anslysis.
And yes my spelling sucks, it's the internet, you'll grow dull to them soon so enough.
> @terranempire#7881 said: > lordgyor wrote: » > > > @terranempire#7881 said: > > Just saw the Cardassian cosmetics for females. And it looks pretty dead awful. 3 hair styles. And the textures look horrific. All short and they look like blobs. Like someone poured stale cream on their heads. None of them look like the ones from the TV shows or even the old Npcs in-game. Ontop of that they don't have the uniforms or Ranks. Yeah... putting me off buying the pack until that is sorted. > > Where did you see them? > > > > > I posted the video on another thread explaining it. From YouTube, think on the test server. I have accesses to the test server as well, but I don't want to download another 17GB to look at it myself in detail. Thankfully others do so I don't have too. > > Edit: Link to the thread with the video > > https://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline/#/discussion/1239673/cardassian-playable-species-hairstyles-limited
It's temporary Lego hair, there is no way they will leave the Cardy females with Lego hair so no need to fear. I'd actually be more worried if they looked more like hair, but looked bad, but Lego hair is a place holder so don't worry.
Interestingly, when I checked them out, the males had 7 different hairstyles.
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More hairstyles for Cardassians?
Yeah, sure, but grab your ticket and wait in line like us Caitians waiting for at least M'Ress' hairstyle since forever. :P
I wish they'd just go ahead and open the tailor to all characters fully. I'm still waiting on the reason why Orion females aren't allowed to use the Jarok hairstyle(the "exotic dancer" in the KDF starbase bar with the Jarok hairstyle sure looks Orion), or the New Styled Elegant one, for example. Or why felinoids don't have the M'Ress hairstyle. Why isn't the Admiral Leeta/Krenim hairstyle available to player characters?
> @saurializard said: > More hairstyles for Cardassians? > Yeah, sure, but grab your ticket and wait in line like us Caitians waiting for at least M'Ress' hairstyle since forever. :P
Poor kitties, meow. If they had manes and looked like the characters from Thundercats I'd roll one, but as of now they just look like generic lion king heads. (Racist line: they all look the same).
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> I was looking at the Keldon Cruisers stats and if you can equipt its console on the other new Cardassian ships, which likely will have Commander Intel Seats given they are full on Intel ships, it will be massively cool as the console reduces cool down of Intel boff powers and boost disruptor damage.
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> Oh and the console is a spiral wave disurptor lance.
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> Imagine say the Damar/Ghemor/Dapata class ships with the Spiral Wave Disruptor Lance console, what ever consoles they come with and armed with Spiral Wave Disruptors (which I think look like phasers and even have the phaser proc so it will look like the show) and the Bioneural Warhead which is Cardassian technology after all. Oh and in the case of Damar and Ghemor class Cardassian fighter Hangar or maybe Hideki Frigate Hangar Bay. And a Cardassian style Heavy Weapon for the Dapata Intel Escort.
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> Btw does anyone else think all the playable Cardassian ships will be able to share parts if you own them?
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> I'm really looking forward to finding out these ship stats.
I screwed that up, the Bioneural Warhead was designed by a Delta Quadrant race, I confused it with Cardassian ATR-4107 which isn't in the game yet. I could see the ATR missile being a console or maybe even the Dapata Intel Escort's Heavy Weapon.
At this point I just want them to utilize these bridges, too big or not. I would be over the moon if they have designed a new, more adequate Cardassian bridge for the new ships, of course. However, I would very much prefer even these larger bridges that are already in the game opposed to having to use a default Klingon/Starfleet bridge on a Cardassian ship.
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> At this point I just want them to utilize these bridges, too big or not. I would be over the moon if they have designed a new, more adequate Cardassian bridge for the new ships, of course. However, I would very much prefer even these larger bridges that are already in the game opposed to having to use a default Klingon/Starfleet bridge on a Cardassian ship.
I tend to prefer big bridges, so I even if they design new bridges I'd want the big Cardassian bridges to remain an option.
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> All full Intel ships have cloaking devices, it's a standard feature. I'd say the fact that they're all Intel ships is a definite callback to the Obsidian Order, though. I'd bet Garak had a lot of input in their design
We know they have the Cardassian Skin, but I wonder if they can use the Tron like Intel skins?
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> We know they have the Cardassian Skin, but I wonder if they can use the Tron like Intel skins?
Probably not Klingon and Romulan intel ships don’t
> I was thinking of just buying the Vanguard Pack, but $130usd ends up $166.77cad . I'm Canadian so if it's going to be in the C-Store I'll save more money using a mix of Zen I'll have banked and buying more Zen.
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What am I saying, I really only want playable Cardassians, Cardassian Intel Ships, and the trio of Jem'hadar Vanguard ships. So that would be 6,000 Zen for the Cardassian Ships, another 6,000 Zen for the Jem'hadar Ships, for 120,000 Zen for both, plus whatever for Cardassians.
So maybe I'll buy the Cardassian three ship bundle at first and then later save up for the Vanguard 3 ship bundle. I don't need all the gravy of the Vanguard Pack. Much easier on my wallet, especially with the way exchange rate is.
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> Just saw the Cardassian cosmetics for females. And it looks pretty dead awful. 3 hair styles. And the textures look horrific. All short and they look like blobs. Like someone poured stale cream on their heads. None of them look like the ones from the TV shows or even the old Npcs in-game. Ontop of that they don't have the uniforms or Ranks. Yeah... putting me off buying the pack until that is sorted.
Where did you see them?
Well, TBH, there's still a while to go until the expansion is released on Holodeck. I'm sure it's a work in progress and it will be polished by the time it's released.
Pretty sure Cardassian uniforms will come soon enough, one way or the other. It's an opportunity Cryptic doesn't usually miss.
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I know they are not finished yet (least I hope not) because the hairstyles are a huge disappointment. Three hair types? Come on.... And none of them even look like the ones from the DS9 show... On top of that no cardie uniforms and it has completely put me off playing them until they correct it.
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I posted the video on another thread explaining it. From YouTube, think on the test server. I have accesses to the test server as well, but I don't want to download another 17GB to look at it myself in detail. Thankfully others do so I don't have too.
Edit: Link to the thread with the video
https://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline/#/discussion/1239673/cardassian-playable-species-hairstyles-limited
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Ok.... Maybe I jumped the gun. Sure hope I am wrong.
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> Li'l bit of clarification here for the OP. lordgyor wrote: »
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> Intel Science Dreadnaught is Science ship (not sure if there is a difference between Science Ships and Science Dreadnaughts), Intel Flight Deck Cruiser fills the cruiser niche, but in way that is different from the Valor and Keldon class cruisers, plus gives us a taste of a Cardassian Carrier might be like, and Intel Cardassian Escort gives us an idea of their offensive power.
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> Actually, there is no such official ship type called "Science Ship". The closest in that context is the Science Vessel ship type. And there is some speculation regarding what Cryptic requires for something to be a Science Dreadnought(such as the commonalities between the Annorax, the Paradox the Collector and soon, the Damar)
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> Also, it's "Science Dreadnought", not "Science Dreadnaught".
Every single Science Dreadnought to date has had 4/3 weapons, a hangar bay and low for a Science Vessel turn rate. There are 4 different classes of them so far, not including the Damar class, and these traits have been consistent with them all.
So I'd be very shocked if the Damar doesn't have 4/3 weapons, a Hangar Bay, and a low for a Science Vessel turn rate. In a sense Science Dreadnoughts are the hybrid versions of the Dreadnought Carriers, trading a Hangar Bay for a secondary Deflector Dish and Sensor Anslysis.
And yes my spelling sucks, it's the internet, you'll grow dull to them soon so enough.
> lordgyor wrote: »
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> > Just saw the Cardassian cosmetics for females. And it looks pretty dead awful. 3 hair styles. And the textures look horrific. All short and they look like blobs. Like someone poured stale cream on their heads. None of them look like the ones from the TV shows or even the old Npcs in-game. Ontop of that they don't have the uniforms or Ranks. Yeah... putting me off buying the pack until that is sorted.
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> I posted the video on another thread explaining it. From YouTube, think on the test server. I have accesses to the test server as well, but I don't want to download another 17GB to look at it myself in detail. Thankfully others do so I don't have too.
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> Edit: Link to the thread with the video
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> https://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline/#/discussion/1239673/cardassian-playable-species-hairstyles-limited
It's temporary Lego hair, there is no way they will leave the Cardy females with Lego hair so no need to fear. I'd actually be more worried if they looked more like hair, but looked bad, but Lego hair is a place holder so don't worry.
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Yeah, sure, but grab your ticket and wait in line like us Caitians waiting for at least M'Ress' hairstyle since forever. :P
> More hairstyles for Cardassians?
> Yeah, sure, but grab your ticket and wait in line like us Caitians waiting for at least M'Ress' hairstyle since forever. :P
Poor kitties, meow. If they had manes and looked like the characters from Thundercats I'd roll one, but as of now they just look like generic lion king heads. (Racist line: they all look the same).
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