new cruser commands need a cool down

retrosrages

as the title says the new cruser commands need a cool down, at the moment you can just spam them every 5 seconds, this will upset you cruser guys but hay op is op

capnshadow27

Who spams them?

Most people turn it on and thats that. The entire point is being able to switch them when needed.

I think you just might have gotten beaten by a cruiser recently......

samt1996

It's not OP... They provide a small bonus to help optimize your ship for whatever you want to do at that time. I'm an escort flyer and im guessing you are too so I'll make this blunt... Pull your head out of your a** and look around. Things are pretty well balanced, this was a logical and canonical bonus for cruisers. After all they are the flagships.

thegalaxy31

capnshadow27 wrote: »

Who spams them?

Most people turn it on and thats that. The entire point is being able to switch them when needed.

I think you just might have gotten beaten by a cruiser recently......

He probably did.

warmaker001b

LOL, just LOL! Spamming Cruiser Commands? Yer doin' it wrong!

aloishammer

retrosrages wrote: »

as the title says the new cruser commands need a cool down, at the moment you can just spam them every 5 seconds, this will upset you cruser guys but hay op is op

Not sure if trolling, or...

warmaker001b

aloishammer wrote: »

Not sure if trolling, or...

Come on, didn't you have a good laugh at least?

jetwtf

A cooldown for something that only expires when you change maps or switch to another makes no sense. Once you turn the command on it stays on and kinda defeats the purpose of having a cooldown. Cooldowns are for things that give a powerfull buff or debuff for a limited amount of time so those remain limited. Anything that does not expires does not need a cooldown because it is set and forget. That would be like adding a cooldown to power level adjustments. you can adjust shields and weapon power every 5 seconds.

mimey2

capnshadow27 wrote: »

Who spams them?

Most people turn it on and thats that. The entire point is being able to switch them when needed.

I think you just might have gotten beaten by a cruiser recently......

Possibly. And/or he was/is flying a Romulan Warbird, none of which gained cruiser commands.

capnshadow27

mimey2 wrote: »

Possibly. And/or he was/is flying a Romulan Warbird, none of which gained cruiser commands.

Ah minor buff jealousy.

rakija879

retrosrages wrote: »

as the title says the new cruser commands need a cool down, at the moment you can just spam them every 5 seconds, this will upset you cruser guys but hay op is op

who is up for a 5 min cd for alpha strike ?

nagrom7

Considering they don't stack, why would we need a cooldown?

capnshadow27

rakija879 wrote: »

who is up for a 5 min cd for alpha strike ?

Heck yeah. THAT will teach people not to complain and ask for nerfs

rylanadionysis

The cruiser commands are hilariously OP at low levels. I have the TOS enterprise for any new toon, so I popped it on the new one im grinding this weekend, and the threat command gives you so much resistance its like you have a mk xii fleet neutronium equipped. ON A STARTER SHIP

lawl

capnshadow27

rylanadionysis wrote: »

the Cruiser Commands Are Hilariously Op At Low Levels. I Have The Tos Enterprise For Any New Toon, So I Popped It On The New One Im Grinding This Weekend, And The Threat Command Gives You So Much Resistance Its Like You Have A Mk Xii Fleet Neutronium Equipped. On A Starter Ship

Lawl

Shhhhhhhhh.

earlnyghthawk

Actually, they already have a cooldown, it's like 3-5 seconds, before you can switch modes. Otherwise, as just about everyone has said, if you're "spamming" them, you're doing it wrong. It sort of like selecting an IFF mode. Once it's selected, (at least while you're on the same map), that mode stays ON, until you decide to a) deselect it or, b) switch modes.

earlnyghthawk

rylanadionysis wrote: »

The cruiser commands are hilariously OP at low levels. I have the TOS enterprise for any new toon, so I popped it on the new one im grinding this weekend, and the threat command gives you so much resistance its like you have a mk xii fleet neutronium equipped. ON A STARTER SHIP

lawl

Ummm, even before these command modes came out, any of my starter cruisers with starter gear rarely took damage. It's just a case of the missions not scaling properly, bad AI, and a few other things wrong with the early PvE stuff. Heck, I think the only time I was ever in much danger of even hitting 75% hull, was in either SB24 or Gorn Minefield/Fed Minefield Fleet Actions. And usually only if I was getting ganged by 3-5 ships at once. 1v1, It was rare to see my hull drop past 95% even on a bad day. And I'm talking on my Miranda-Shi'Kahr's/TOS Connies? and even my starter escort that I chose for once character.

earlnyghthawk

retrosrages wrote: »

balanced lol don't be so silly,90% of you cruser guys are still using the faw,dem combo even after a dev said it was bugged, but I still beat 80% of you with ease, if you want to test me request a 1v1 in game my tag is the same as my forum name, I will even use a weak brel and will not use my cloak, roll up roll up zombie builds, the cool down is 5 seconds but the skill last for 5 seconds so there is no real cool down, and since the skills only last 5 seconds then you have to spam it, you don't just press it once and it lasts all night lol, I fly kdf not a rommy and there is only mimey2 in here that I know could beat me, anyway there is a fix for faw on tribble so lets see once its fixed out many of you are on here QQ,, since most of you still need to use a bugged skill to do any kind of damage

Ummm, no, the cruiser commands do not wear off, unless you change maps. Have a cruiser sit next to you, with a mode activated. Unless he's messing with you (and keeps hitting the same mode over & over), it will not disappear off the "buff-bar".

happyhappyj0yj0y

retrosrages wrote: »

look into how it works, or ask a dev

Everyone ELSE knows how Cruiser Commands work. They're toggles.

capnshadow27

retrosrages wrote: »

and you call this a little boost?

Command ? Weapon System Efficiency:
?The Weapon System Efficiency Command reduces power drain from weapons by 25% for the cruiser and nearby allies. This Command will reduce the significant drain from directed energy weapon fire. Ultimately, this will lead to higher sustained damage and quicker recovery from firing energy draining powers like Beam: Overload


its like marion doff built in,

Except marion you can nail a BO with 0 power loss. the command drops beams to -8 drain, not that big of a deal.

thegalaxy31

retrosrages wrote: »

and you call this a little boost?

Command ? Weapon System Efficiency:
?The Weapon System Efficiency Command reduces power drain from weapons by 25% for the cruiser and nearby allies. This Command will reduce the significant drain from directed energy weapon fire. Ultimately, this will lead to higher sustained damage and quicker recovery from firing energy draining powers like Beam: Overload


its like marion doff built in,

It's 25%, not +200.

earlnyghthawk

I don't have to, I have 2 characters that fly ships with access to all 4 commands (Fleet Escelsior), and one that has access to 3 (MU Vor'Cha). And the buff on my bar stays constant, once I select what mode I desire, until I either map-switch, select a different mode, or die. Therefore, that means, the cruiser command is operating as a MODE switch, not a momentary switch, as most skills do in this game. Which is the same as how carrier pet control works, as well. Once you select a MODE for you pets, they stay in that mode, until you select another mode.

happyhappyj0yj0y

retrosrages wrote: »

and you call this a little boost?

Command ? Weapon System Efficiency:
?The Weapon System Efficiency Command reduces power drain from weapons by 25% for the cruiser and nearby allies. This Command will reduce the significant drain from directed energy weapon fire. Ultimately, this will lead to higher sustained damage and quicker recovery from firing energy draining powers like Beam: Overload


its like marion doff built in,

From standard Beam Array to a standard Dual cannon the DPS bump is about 30% (actually a little over 31). APOIII offers a standard (non-buffed) bump of over 16%, in addition to a myriad of other buffs. Standard CRFIII offers a bump of about 50%. And don't forget that Tactical Consoles stack with no diminishing returns.

So yeah, I don't particularly think you're looking at a massive buff for Cruisers. especially since, you know...

retrosrages wrote: »

balanced lol don't be so silly,90% of you cruser guys are still using the faw,dem combo even after a dev said it was bugged, but I still beat 80% of you with ease, if you want to test me request a 1v1 in game my tag is the same as my forum name, I will even use a weak brel and will not use my cloak, roll up roll up zombie builds, the cool down is 5 seconds but the skill last for 5 seconds so there is no real cool down, and since the skills only last 5 seconds then you have to spam it, you don't just press it once and it lasts all night lol, I fly kdf not a rommy and there is only mimey2 in here that I know could beat me, anyway there is a fix for faw on tribble so lets see once its fixed out many of you are on here QQ,, since most of you still need to use a bugged skill to do any kind of damage, how many of you cruser noobs said faw was working as it should? and you was all wrong and by the sounds of it most of you don't even know how the new cruser commands even work, it doesn't stay on all the time your on that map silly boy it lasts 5 seconds with a 5 second cool down lol, stays on all the time hahahaha

... you're basically sitting here telling us how badly Cruisers suck and how they need to rely on a bugged mechanic to try and remain viable.

earlnyghthawk

Oh, and you're skipping another thing about cruiser commands, they don't merely benefit the ship using them, they ALSO benefit the friendly ships, within a 5 km radius. So you're escort, if you're within a 5km of a cruiser using these commands, YOU also benefit from them.

rylanadionysis

earlnyghthawk wrote: »

Ummm, even before these command modes came out, any of my starter cruisers with starter gear rarely took damage. It's just a case of the missions not scaling properly, bad AI, and a few other things wrong with the early PvE stuff. Heck, I think the only time I was ever in much danger of even hitting 75% hull, was in either SB24 or Gorn Minefield/Fed Minefield Fleet Actions. And usually only if I was getting ganged by 3-5 ships at once. 1v1, It was rare to see my hull drop past 95% even on a bad day. And I'm talking on my Miranda-Shi'Kahr's/TOS Connies? and even my starter escort that I chose for once character.

That isnt the point, lol

I was sitting outside ESD on my baby connie and with no armor equipped, popped threat and because of the people around me had 35 resistances in everything.

I lold pretty hard actually.

markhawkman

happyhappyj0yj0y wrote: »

Everyone ELSE knows how Cruiser Commands work. They're toggles.

Yeah, it's like changing attack modes in Chimera. It's not a temporary buff, it's a continuous alteration of your combat capabilities.

capnshadow27

rylanadionysis wrote: »

That isnt the point, lol

I was sitting outside ESD on my baby connie and with no armor equipped, popped threat and because of the people around me had 35 resistances in everything.

I lold pretty hard actually.

You should try it on CE when everyone is parked super close to each other. You end up getting resists from 9 people and the Entoty can't scratch your paint. It's epic.

mwhitaker

retrosrages wrote: »

and you call this a little boost?

Command ? Weapon System Efficiency:
?The Weapon System Efficiency Command reduces power drain from weapons by 25% for the cruiser and nearby allies. This Command will reduce the significant drain from directed energy weapon fire. Ultimately, this will lead to higher sustained damage and quicker recovery from firing energy draining powers like Beam: Overload


its like marion doff built in,

You sir, are the whiniest, most self-entitled, butthurt little poster to this forum that I have ever come across. Explain to me how escorts' ability to fry cruisers is negated by these commands as they are, and then we can talk. And yes, I fly both cruisers and escorts regularly.