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shadow#7800 shadow Member Posts: 26 Arc User
The Sovereign and her variants are starting show their age a bit. So why not give the Sovereign class some love, have the Sovereign (Legendary) and the Regent class (T5) in a bundle with new stats. Sovereign (Legendary) with a 5X3 weapons loadout and the ability to use cannons. The Regent class with a wide angle transphasic torpedo launcher.
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  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 11,028 Community Moderator
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  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,890 Arc User
    edited December 2024
    While I like the idea of variants in general (mostly for kitbash purposes), the game is already swimming with Sovereign variants, just like it is with Miranda variants. If they are going to do that kind of thing again it would be nice to add parts or whole variants to some of the many T6s that don't have them already, (especially for the factions, subfactions, and non-aligned who always get the short end of the stick compared to the Federation).

    And yes, I know the OP is talking about internal changes instead of the models, but there really isn't that much wrong with oldschool ships (though the convenience nowadays of not having to buy the cstore version followed by buying the fleet version to get the whole ship like the old ones tended to require is nice). Instead, like with the models, it is mainly a fashion issue, in this case thinking how the classic fashion in builds could be tweaked and accessorized DPS wise with new consoles and systems-parts to make it work in today's build-fashion environment.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,689 Community Moderator
    The biggest issue with this request... is bringing up the Legendary Sovy. The Devs have said they have no intention of breaking the 10th Anniversary Bundle, of which the Legendary Sovy is a part of. Admittedly this is Cryptic talking. If DECA decides to change that its up to them. HOWEVER... beyond that there are a few flaws.
    • Converting an already existing Cruiser into a Battlecruiser with a different weapons loadout
    • Asking for a Wide Angle Transphasic Torpedo when the Regent already comes with a Wide Angle Quantum Torpedo
    • Why would you need extra stuff when the Legendary already comes with everything associated with that line up to the release of the Legendary?

    You'd be better off just asking for an all new Sovy Variant honestly.
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  • nixie50nixie50 Member Posts: 1,351 Arc User
    don't need a budle or anything. take the legendary, put the battlecruiser weapon layout on it call it Sovereign Refit, slap it on the C-store and call it a day
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  • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 6,016 Arc User
    nixie50 wrote: »
    don't need a budle or anything. take the legendary, put the battlecruiser weapon layout on it call it Sovereign Refit, slap it on the C-store and call it a day

    Mirror Sov?
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    • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,689 Community Moderator
      Mirror Sov?

      Already exists, although I don't think it has the CURRENT Mirror skin. The T5 Mirror Star Cruiser.
      https://stowiki.net/wiki/Mirror_Sovereign_Star_Cruiser
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      I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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    • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,890 Arc User
      rattler2 wrote: »
      Mirror Sov?

      Already exists, although I don't think it has the CURRENT Mirror skin. The T5 Mirror Star Cruiser.
      https://stowiki.net/wiki/Mirror_Sovereign_Star_Cruiser

      If they simply T6 it though it would not be anything like the OP wants since the T5 Mirror Star Cruiser is identical to the Federation one under the hood, it just uses an Odyssey hull instead of the Emissary hull. Also, I am not sure I see the point in the 5/3 with DHC modification since a star cruiser is primarily an engineering ship with science next and tactical in last place according to the seating. Its single lieutenant tac seat would not even support DHCs effectively.
    • vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,943 Arc User
      rattler2 wrote: »
      Mirror Sov?

      Already exists, although I don't think it has the CURRENT Mirror skin. The T5 Mirror Star Cruiser.
      https://stowiki.net/wiki/Mirror_Sovereign_Star_Cruiser

      If they simply T6 it though it would not be anything like the OP wants since the T5 Mirror Star Cruiser is identical to the Federation one under the hood, it just uses an Odyssey hull instead of the Emissary hull. Also, I am not sure I see the point in the 5/3 with DHC modification since a star cruiser is primarily an engineering ship with science next and tactical in last place according to the seating. Its single lieutenant tac seat would not even support DHCs effectively.

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    • nixie50nixie50 Member Posts: 1,351 Arc User
      edited December 2024
      don't the t5 mirror ships have reverse tac/sci seats?
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    • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,689 Community Moderator
      Some of the old T5 Mirror ships had swapped seating. So for example the Mirror Assault Cruiser was the Fed Star Cruiser but with Assault Cruiser seating, and vice versa. Otherwise it was mostly just different BOff seating from the Fed versions, like with the Mirror Nova vs Fed Nova.
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      I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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    • risian4#5049 risian4 Member Posts: 13 Arc User
      Please, no.

      A legendary Sovereign already exists. These ships were supposed to be the best and come with everything from their respective family of ships. The idea was: you buy this one, you won't have to buy all the other ones separately to get a certain ship part or a trait or whatever.

      It's bad enough that for some ships, like the Excelsior family, there are now new ships that result in still not having everything from that family if you own the legendary.

      This isn't something we should be encouraging. Legendary variants of a ship should be the end point. The Sovereign family has a legendary, so that should be it.
    • sudonamisudonami Member Posts: 144 Arc User
      I mostly agree that the older .models could use a touch up. They have aged quite a bit now.

      As for a new one, just make a mirror regent. Don't have on of those that I can remember. I don't think it would be high priority as mentioned by others, there are several sovereign variants in game already, but it is still a nice idea
    • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,899 Arc User
      As long as they're making changes...can we get the entire sovereign set equippable on the lamarr?
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    • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,689 Community Moderator
      Its not able to be? I thought they unlocked the Sovy Set when they made the Legendary?
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      I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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    • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,515 Arc User
      lianthelia wrote: »
      As long as they're making changes...can we get the entire sovereign set equippable on the lamarr?
      rattler2 wrote: »
      Its not able to be? I thought they unlocked the Sovy Set when they made the Legendary?

      The Lamarr is not a Sovereign variant.
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    • spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 4,402 Arc User
      leemwatson wrote: »
      lianthelia wrote: »
      As long as they're making changes...can we get the entire sovereign set equippable on the lamarr?
      rattler2 wrote: »
      Its not able to be? I thought they unlocked the Sovy Set when they made the Legendary?

      The Lamarr is not a Sovereign variant.

      It shares the skeleton with the Sovereign class IIRC so can be kitbashed with them.
    • darpendragondarpendragon Member Posts: 206 Arc User
      rattler2 wrote: »
      Its not able to be? I thought they unlocked the Sovy Set when they made the Legendary?

      The Sovereign set is not unlocked. It is only recently (past 2-3 years) that they unlocked the ship console sets when they released the legendary version. Like how the Flagship set was not unlocked until the legendary Bortasqu' was released, not when the legendary Odyssey (Verity in the 10th anniversary bundle) was released.
    • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,899 Arc User
      Yes, the Lamarr can use any of the assault cruiser pieces that someone has unlocked and as dar said the consoles aren't unlocked...the only one that is unlocked is the metreon gas canisters

      I was hoping when the Lamarr was released they'd unlock it but the haven't as of right now (checked to make sure)
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