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Mine Trap

voyager10759voyager10759 Member Posts: 17 Arc User
edited November 5 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
How many of you would like to see the STF Mine Trap put back in the game only make it a 5 or 10 person group so it is easier to get a group.
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  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,912 Community Moderator
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  • sthe91sthe91 Member Posts: 5,972 Arc User
    I would also like a revamped Mine Trap back.
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,663 Arc User
    I don't think I ever got to play it back in 2012-2014 before it was retired. A 20-player ground TFO isn't going to be popular so it might need to be reworked into a 5-person. That would be a nice change from the usual bugs and borgs.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,594 Community Moderator
    davefenestrator wrote: »
    I don't think I ever got to play it back in 2012-2014 before it was retired. A 20-player ground TFO isn't going to be popular so it might need to be reworked into a 5-person. That would be a nice change from the usual bugs and borgs.

    I think the ONLY 20 man that was popular was Shuttle Fleet Alert. Beyond that... good luck getting that many people to queue up.
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    Yang Xiao Long wrote:
    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,923 Arc User
    davefenestrator wrote: »
    I don't think I ever got to play it back in 2012-2014 before it was retired. A 20-player ground TFO isn't going to be popular so it might need to be reworked into a 5-person. That would be a nice change from the usual bugs and borgs.

    besides with power creep the 5 man team is going to have more DPS than the 2014 20 man team
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,594 Community Moderator
    vetteguy904 wrote: »
    besides with power creep the 5 man team is going to have more DPS than the 2014 20 man team

    The old TFO was still designed with 20 people in mind. 4 areas, widespread objectives, LOTS to keep track of... in its original form it would still be extremely hard for 5 players today because of the sheer amount of things to track. Mine Trap would have to be redesigned with 5 players in mind rather than 20.

    Also... power creep isn't as noticeable on ground as it is in space. We may have some crazy kit modules, but you can't stack things to the same level as you can in space because of gear limitations. Starships can stack multiple consoles for extra damage. Captains... not so much.
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    Yang Xiao Long wrote:
    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • protoneousprotoneous Member Posts: 3,158 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    vetteguy904 wrote: »
    besides with power creep the 5 man team is going to have more DPS than the 2014 20 man team

    The old TFO was still designed with 20 people in mind. 4 areas, widespread objectives, LOTS to keep track of... in its original form it would still be extremely hard for 5 players today because of the sheer amount of things to track. Mine Trap would have to be redesigned with 5 players in mind rather than 20.

    Also... power creep isn't as noticeable on ground as it is in space. We may have some crazy kit modules, but you can't stack things to the same level as you can in space because of gear limitations. Starships can stack multiple consoles for extra damage. Captains... not so much.

    For ground game play there are a variety of kit modules that bring a fair bit of zing to the game as compared to the days of old.

    In combination with other things we didn't have before, such as Large Kit Overboosters that reduce kit module cooldowns, I find my ground game causes a lot more damage than it used to.

    I think @vetteguy904 makes a good point.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,594 Community Moderator
    Well I don't dispute we have more power than we did back in the day. Especially considering we first had SET Kits that had specific abilities, then that was converted to we can select Kit Modules, but only certain types fit into certain Kit Frames, to the total freedom (within career path) to pick our Modules and Kit Frames just stat sticks.
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    Yang Xiao Long wrote:
    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
  • vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,923 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    vetteguy904 wrote: »
    besides with power creep the 5 man team is going to have more DPS than the 2014 20 man team

    The old TFO was still designed with 20 people in mind. 4 areas, widespread objectives, LOTS to keep track of... in its original form it would still be extremely hard for 5 players today because of the sheer amount of things to track. Mine Trap would have to be redesigned with 5 players in mind rather than 20.

    Also... power creep isn't as noticeable on ground as it is in space. We may have some crazy kit modules, but you can't stack things to the same level as you can in space because of gear limitations. Starships can stack multiple consoles for extra damage. Captains... not so much.



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  • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,163 Arc User
    Yes! I want to destroy those creepy vampire things!... and maybe get yelled at by my team as I explore the map!
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  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc
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    I have never played it before, but STO could really use more TOS and TOS follow-up content, so I, for one, would like if they put it back in in some form.
  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,489 Arc User
    Mine trap and the 20 man TFO fighting klingons on a Mining moon were defintely fun and i do hope they return.
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