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Phil Frazier - Cryptic CEO - DECA, STO's Future etc - Reddit Thread

foxman00foxman00 Member Posts: 1,481 Arc User
Morning Captains

Phil Frazier, Cryptic CEO posted on reddit a thread to communicate with the player base. Answering some questions as well as informing everyone he has tentatively scheduled to appear in a stream on March 19th. Here is the text of his thread.

Greetings!

As requested, here's a real post. Not some comments buried deep under the comments of another thread.

I've been lurking for a long time but with all of the news about Cryptic recently, you all convinced me it may be time to say something. Please note that I specifically asked our teams to remain quiet on this topic until we had more of our ducks in a row related to this transition. I was reading late last night and decided to casually provide some information.

Yes - things are changing. We're in the process of transitioning our business to DECA. This process is quite involved and has broad implications on the development of the game, issues related to publishing, etc... We still haven't fully resolved all of the complexities but we're making great progress with the team at DECA.

I'd like to make two major points.

Star Trek: Online (plus Neverwinter and Champs) are not being sunset as part of this transition. The primary goal driving this change is to better position all of these titles for continued development into the future. Our shared ambition with DECA is that these games live on for many years to come.
The plan, as of writing this, is to maintain a steady state w/r/t our content cadence and mix. This could change over time as the business evolves, but right now we're pushing to keep things as they are.
With any change as significant as this, it's possible there will be challenges that impact things down the road. We still have a great team at Cryptic, and a growing team at DECA, trying to mitigate risks as best we can. All staff at Cryptic are fully looped-in on the process and as you all have noted in a few threads, some of our team have decided to proactively find other work. Game studios see people come and go all the time, and with as much internal transparency as we're providing into the process, I fully support and celebrate folks taking whatever steps they need to be where they want to be.

I have agreed to participate in a stream with Mike, Brett, and Jarrod in the coming weeks. I think we're pushing for 3/19 but don't hold me to that just yet. :) We'll provide more updates there. In the meantime, I'll keep an eye out for comments here. Some I'll save as questions for the stream. Some I may deal with in real-time below.

Thanks, and nice meeting you all.

Phil Frazier


I also recommend reading the thread as he answers several other questions.

Source: https://old.reddit.com/r/sto/comments/1b3g360/an_actual_post_come_say_hello/
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    foxman00foxman00 Member Posts: 1,481 Arc User
    I would has posted this much sooner, but the City where I live suffered a City wide blackout just as I was planning to post. So apologises about the delay :)
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    jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,366 Arc User
    It's nice to know that CO will at least stay in maintenance mode - I figured they'd drop that like a glowing green rock.

    I wasn't terribly concerned about STO staying, as it's been successful and influential enough to have contributed designs to PIC. That's a good mark of achievement.
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    foxman00foxman00 Member Posts: 1,481 Arc User
    jonsills wrote: »
    It's nice to know that CO will at least stay in maintenance mode - I figured they'd drop that like a glowing green rock.

    I wasn't terribly concerned about STO staying, as it's been successful and influential enough to have contributed designs to PIC. That's a good mark of achievement.

    Sadly, many players have been going all doom posting, fear mongering and conspiracy theories for the past couple of weeks. Not that the linked post has stopped many players I have been seeing on twitter and Facebook going all "No, they are lying to us, they don't want to admit the game is being sunset".
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    protoneousprotoneous Member Posts: 2,986 Arc User
    While I don't use social media, the vast majority of comments in the link seem very respectful and well thought out. I hope STO is around for many more years :smile:
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    pottsey5gpottsey5g Member Posts: 4,177 Arc User
    edited March 2
    Its great that they are going to do everything they can to avoid maintenance mode for STO. It sounds like we wont be entering maintenance mode any time soon. This might even be positive. Yes we have lost a few good devs but we also lost the bad ones as well. Perhaps now we will get better standards with professionally written blogs, proper communication, proper quality control and fresh blood can be good.
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    jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,366 Arc User
    foxman00 wrote: »
    jonsills wrote: »
    It's nice to know that CO will at least stay in maintenance mode - I figured they'd drop that like a glowing green rock.

    I wasn't terribly concerned about STO staying, as it's been successful and influential enough to have contributed designs to PIC. That's a good mark of achievement.

    Sadly, many players have been going all doom posting, fear mongering and conspiracy theories for the past couple of weeks. Not that the linked post has stopped many players I have been seeing on twitter and Facebook going all "No, they are lying to us, they don't want to admit the game is being sunset".
    Yeah, I've been ignoring that, because it's been going on since at least closed beta. Fourteen years now the game's been supposedly "on the verge of being shut down", "clearly dying", "losing players left and right", and yet here we are.
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    misterskimisterski Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    jonsills wrote: »
    foxman00 wrote: »
    jonsills wrote: »
    It's nice to know that CO will at least stay in maintenance mode - I figured they'd drop that like a glowing green rock.

    I wasn't terribly concerned about STO staying, as it's been successful and influential enough to have contributed designs to PIC. That's a good mark of achievement.

    Sadly, many players have been going all doom posting, fear mongering and conspiracy theories for the past couple of weeks. Not that the linked post has stopped many players I have been seeing on twitter and Facebook going all "No, they are lying to us, they don't want to admit the game is being sunset".
    Yeah, I've been ignoring that, because it's been going on since at least closed beta. Fourteen years now the game's been supposedly "on the verge of being shut down", "clearly dying", "losing players left and right", and yet here we are.

    Hey the doom and gloomers will be right, eventually. Probably after they're long dead, but they'll be right!
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    fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 4,789 Arc User
    jonsills wrote: »
    foxman00 wrote: »
    jonsills wrote: »
    It's nice to know that CO will at least stay in maintenance mode - I figured they'd drop that like a glowing green rock.

    I wasn't terribly concerned about STO staying, as it's been successful and influential enough to have contributed designs to PIC. That's a good mark of achievement.

    Sadly, many players have been going all doom posting, fear mongering and conspiracy theories for the past couple of weeks. Not that the linked post has stopped many players I have been seeing on twitter and Facebook going all "No, they are lying to us, they don't want to admit the game is being sunset".
    Yeah, I've been ignoring that, because it's been going on since at least closed beta. Fourteen years now the game's been supposedly "on the verge of being shut down", "clearly dying", "losing players left and right", and yet here we are.

    And for just as long, people have been pretending everything was fine, even when it wasn't (I'm reminded of a certain quote about 'the best expansion ever').

    Even when predictions don't come true, that doesn't mean there was no reason to make those predictions. The last couple of months haven't been good and there are reasons to be concerned.

    Even if things turn out to be not as bad as they seem, I think the doomsayers are closer to reality than those ignoring all the red flags.
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    pottsey5gpottsey5g Member Posts: 4,177 Arc User
    edited March 2
    jonsills wrote: »
    foxman00 wrote: »
    jonsills wrote: »
    It's nice to know that CO will at least stay in maintenance mode - I figured they'd drop that like a glowing green rock.

    I wasn't terribly concerned about STO staying, as it's been successful and influential enough to have contributed designs to PIC. That's a good mark of achievement.

    Sadly, many players have been going all doom posting, fear mongering and conspiracy theories for the past couple of weeks. Not that the linked post has stopped many players I have been seeing on twitter and Facebook going all "No, they are lying to us, they don't want to admit the game is being sunset".
    Yeah, I've been ignoring that, because it's been going on since at least closed beta. Fourteen years now the game's been supposedly "on the verge of being shut down", "clearly dying", "losing players left and right", and yet here we are.
    Every so over I look at the player numbers and extrapolate the data as best as we can with what we have.

    In January 2024 we had approx. +120.0% more active players then we had in January 2023. December 2023 was approx. 4% higher then December 2022. Not every month is a gain but its a clear sign the game is not dying. When you combine that with with the yearly profit reports that show us as being not only healthy but often in the top 10. Then I am with you, best to ignore the doom posting, fear mongering.

    As long as there are active Star Trek TV shows and movies I am not really too concerned. Those will keep a steady stream of new content and new players.
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    rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,020 Community Moderator
    I would also like to point out a critical detail.
    Some of those doomsayers like to cite Steam numbers. Problem with that is that Steam only tracks Steam users. Not total population. There's Arc, Stand Alone Launcher, and probably Epic as well. And lets not forget about the XBox and PlayStation players as well.

    No one is ignoring anything, but at the same time no one should cloak doom under the veil of "accepting reality". Unless they come out and say the game is closing down, then to quote Director Fury: "Until such time as the world ends, we will act as though it intends to spin on."
    (I do miss the old DOOOOOM joke thread though. That was fun. OMG we got Proton weapons? DOOOOOOOOOOOOOM! :p )
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    davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,512 Arc User
    edited March 3
    jonsills wrote: »
    foxman00 wrote: »
    jonsills wrote: »
    It's nice to know that CO will at least stay in maintenance mode - I figured they'd drop that like a glowing green rock.

    I wasn't terribly concerned about STO staying, as it's been successful and influential enough to have contributed designs to PIC. That's a good mark of achievement.

    Sadly, many players have been going all doom posting, fear mongering and conspiracy theories for the past couple of weeks. Not that the linked post has stopped many players I have been seeing on twitter and Facebook going all "No, they are lying to us, they don't want to admit the game is being sunset".
    Yeah, I've been ignoring that, because it's been going on since at least closed beta. Fourteen years now the game's been supposedly "on the verge of being shut down", "clearly dying", "losing players left and right", and yet here we are.

    And for just as long, people have been pretending everything was fine, even when it wasn't (I'm reminded of a certain quote about 'the best expansion ever').

    Even when predictions don't come true, that doesn't mean there was no reason to make those predictions. The last couple of months haven't been good and there are reasons to be concerned.

    Even if things turn out to be not as bad as they seem, I think the doomsayers are closer to reality than those ignoring all the red flags.

    Delta Rising actually was a very good expansion after some rebalancing and bug fixes. Except helping the zombies. Zombies must be put down with phasers and blades ;)

    Besides some good story episodes and and Voyager cast voice acting, we also got account unlocks for event ships (replacing the old single-character unlocks), the new crafting (much better than the old), bound-to-account gear instead of bound-to-character, specializations, and some good T6 ships like the Guardian, Phantom, Mat'Ha, Faeht.
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    missmel#5308 missmel Member Posts: 99 Arc User
    I know it's very late...

    But are the console versions still going to be supported...

    And also can we please have on console the all of the ships stats IE EPG, CONTROL, DRAIN
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    leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,345 Arc User
    I know it's very late...

    But are the console versions still going to be supported...

    And also can we please have on console the all of the ships stats IE EPG, CONTROL, DRAIN

    This isn't a request thread :lol:

    There's been zero indication consoles are going to be sunset. Ignore the doomsayers.
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    theanothernametheanothername Member Posts: 1,504 Arc User
    The first thing I find when looking up DECA is a kind of student/shape future leaders organisation here: https://www.deca.org/

    Just guessing: That is not the DECA I was looking for? :P
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    eazzieeazzie Member Posts: 4,000 Arc User
    The first thing I find when looking up DECA is a kind of student/shape future leaders organisation here: https://www.deca.org/

    Just guessing: That is not the DECA I was looking for? :P

    This is the site you are looking for..... https://decagames.com/
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    theanothernametheanothername Member Posts: 1,504 Arc User
    eazzie wrote: »
    The first thing I find when looking up DECA is a kind of student/shape future leaders organisation here: https://www.deca.org/

    Just guessing: That is not the DECA I was looking for? :P

    This is the site you are looking for..... https://decagames.com/

    Thanks!

    *browses it*

    ... uhhh... they know nothing about actual video games/MMOs. Just a big list of mobile games. That will be an interesting ride. I really hope they know what they are doing. :|
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    spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 4,264 Arc User
    eazzie wrote: »
    The first thing I find when looking up DECA is a kind of student/shape future leaders organisation here: https://www.deca.org/

    Just guessing: That is not the DECA I was looking for? :P

    This is the site you are looking for..... https://decagames.com/

    Thanks!

    *browses it*

    ... uhhh... they know nothing about actual video games/MMOs. Just a big list of mobile games. That will be an interesting ride. I really hope they know what they are doing. :|

    To be fair they're just the publisher, Cryptic is still the ones who are doing the actual work.
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    theanothernametheanothername Member Posts: 1,504 Arc User
    spiritborn wrote: »
    eazzie wrote: »
    The first thing I find when looking up DECA is a kind of student/shape future leaders organisation here: https://www.deca.org/

    Just guessing: That is not the DECA I was looking for? :P

    This is the site you are looking for..... https://decagames.com/

    Thanks!

    *browses it*

    ... uhhh... they know nothing about actual video games/MMOs. Just a big list of mobile games. That will be an interesting ride. I really hope they know what they are doing. :|

    To be fair they're just the publisher, Cryptic is still the ones who are doing the actual work.

    Thats very reassuring! Somehow it read a bit more dramatic then with the previous changes. So, just kinda the annual puplisher change then :)
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    leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,345 Arc User
    spiritborn wrote: »
    eazzie wrote: »
    The first thing I find when looking up DECA is a kind of student/shape future leaders organisation here: https://www.deca.org/

    Just guessing: That is not the DECA I was looking for? :P

    This is the site you are looking for..... https://decagames.com/

    Thanks!

    *browses it*

    ... uhhh... they know nothing about actual video games/MMOs. Just a big list of mobile games. That will be an interesting ride. I really hope they know what they are doing. :|

    To be fair they're just the publisher, Cryptic is still the ones who are doing the actual work.

    Thats very reassuring! Somehow it read a bit more dramatic then with the previous changes. So, just kinda the annual puplisher change then :)

    Yup. You know what the doomsayers are like....game's only being 'dying' for 14 years :lol::lol:
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
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    rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,020 Community Moderator
    leemwatson wrote: »
    Yup. You know what the doomsayers are like....game's only being 'dying' for 14 years :lol::lol:

    Yup.
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    splattysplatty Member Posts: 113 Arc User
    edited March 11
    spiritborn wrote: »
    eazzie wrote: »
    The first thing I find when looking up DECA is a kind of student/shape future leaders organisation here: https://www.deca.org/

    Just guessing: That is not the DECA I was looking for? :P

    This is the site you are looking for..... https://decagames.com/

    Thanks!

    *browses it*

    ... uhhh... they know nothing about actual video games/MMOs. Just a big list of mobile games. That will be an interesting ride. I really hope they know what they are doing. :|

    To be fair they're just the publisher, Cryptic is still the ones who are doing the actual work.

    Wrong. Did you even read the Reddit thread and the CEO's replies? DECA is hiring new staff (currently up to 15) to take over "the actual work". Contributions from DECA is planned for summer. The people who do the mobile games stuff have nothing to do with the Cryptic games intake.

    Edit: Instead of the whole thread you can find just his responses by searching his username;

    https://old.reddit.com/user/Fillychceeze
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    theanothernametheanothername Member Posts: 1,504 Arc User
    edited March 12
    [–]Fillychceeze

    Great suggestion. Truth be told, game dev talent in the US is notably more expensive than other parts of the world. With DECA taking over there should be more bang for buck even with the same overall budget.


    Oy, this get möre weird the more I read into it. "Devs are more expensive in US"; looking up to see in what 3rd world country (hyperbolic spoken) they try to get the cheap labor from and get presented with Berlin/Germany :D Yeah, that will be a nasty surprise. They do know that, even non unionized, Germany has strong labour laws as well as minimum wage and work hour rules? Not even starting with the insane energy prices we have here + Berlin being one of the more expensive citys. I mean yeah, its honestly great to know the devs getting paid in a more secure job but if "cheaper" is the premise I fail to see the logic.

    And its still Embracer; just not the Gearbox subsidary anymore; so its more of an inhouse restructuring that likely might have been longer in development already which is good since it will lead to a cleaner transistion.

    Will they take in some Cryptic devs & will they move to Germany? Not that this should be really required anymore with current tech available i.e. home offices but I'm curiouos. :)

    I do get the doomsaying; this is very different from the times before when the publishers took the whole Cryptic and everything they had. Here the owner (Embracer) excercises his right to separate the two and put the IPs where he thinks is the best place to make more money.

    Obviously a sunset game does not make anything anymore; but putting in an insanely expensive enviroment would make it far more likely to shut down when the cash does not flow in as desired.

    On the bright side we do have a strong & passionate Star Trek community in Germany so I totally belive they'll manage to get a team that has the will to confront the insanity that is STO/Cryptics infamous "Spaghetti Code" and the passion to eventually master it.

    I'll hope and look forward to a bright future; but I'll not ignore the past of sunset/retired to lifesupport games and act like this is the usual publisher change. This new team will not have the passion Cryptic had; or at least I do not belive they would fight like a raging Lioness for her cups as Crytic did for their titles in the aftermath of the Atari fallout.
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    live8evillive8evil Member Posts: 127 Arc User
    edited March 12
    Except that DECA is mostly hiring in Bolgaria, Hungary, India and "worldwide", only one of their job openings is stationed in Germany (Berlin) and it's a financal management post. They could literaly hire 5-10 people for the cost of one, if comparing salaries between US and the listed countrys. Not saying, that they will and what the quality of work will be, time will tell that.

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    crypticarmsmancrypticarmsman Member Posts: 4,113 Arc User


    Oy, this get möre weird the more I read into it. "Devs are more expensive in US"; looking up to see in what 3rd world country (hyperbolic spoken) they try to get the cheap labor from and get presented with Berlin/Germany :D Yeah, that will be a nasty surprise. They do know that, even non unionized, Germany has strong labour laws as well as minimum wage and work hour rules? Not even starting with the insane energy prices we have here + Berlin being one of the more expensive citys. I mean yeah, its honestly great to know the devs getting paid in a more secure job but if "cheaper" is the premise I fail to see the logic.

    Cheaper salary & benefits cost is cheaper <--- And right now to Embracer cost cutting is their #1 priority. If it costs less to hire staff in Germany, it costs them less.


    Will they take in some Cryptic devs & will they move to Germany? Not that this should be really required anymore with current tech available i.e. home offices but I'm curiouos. :)...
    They may make an offer and still allow them to work from home - BUT - said offer would probably entail a salary cut and a need to work 8:00 - 17:00 Central European Time meaning if they're living in California that would be +8 hours, meaning 4PM - 1 AM) (IE 'Swing Shift' type hours).
    ^^^
    Thus most would probably decide to look for jobs with another U.S. based game development company.
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    eazzieeazzie Member Posts: 4,000 Arc User
    CEO Phil Frazier, Exec producers Jarrod Fisher (STO) and Brett Norton (NW) join Kael on Twitch to discuss what's coming up for all Cryptic games.

    This was posted on X

    https://x.com/trekonlinegame/status/1770136399213175039?s=20
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    foxman00foxman00 Member Posts: 1,481 Arc User
    edited March 19
    Here we go folks

    "Today at 3pm PT, we're having our first All Fans All Hands, as CEO Phil Frazier and Executive Producers Jarrod Fisher (STO) and Brett Norton (NW, CO) join us to talk about what's coming up in all our games!"

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    equinox976equinox976 Member Posts: 2,277 Arc User
    edited March 24
    I wonder if they will create a new forum like they did when we switched over from Atari.

    I would be over the 'Moon' if the official forums could thrive and come alive again, without the presence of certain... inhibiting factors.
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    baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,328 Community Moderator
    equinox976 wrote: »
    I wonder if they will create a new forum like they did when we switched over from Atari.

    I would be over the 'Moon' if the official forums could thrive and come alive again, without the presence of certain... inhibiting factors.

    Wow. Subtle. And ironic. 😏
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    equinox976equinox976 Member Posts: 2,277 Arc User
    > @baddmoonrizin said:
    > Wow. Subtle. And ironic. 😏

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    thunderfoot#5163 thunderfoot Member Posts: 4,540 Arc User
    "DOOM!" threads and comments in these forums are outrageously funny to me. I heehaw like a donkey at some of them. To quote James T., "People can be very frightened of change.".
    Kinda makes you wonder what the doomsayers do when they discover the Circle K is out of Cheetos and Diet Dew. XD
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