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icelord64
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Have played this a while back and then took a break from the game. Played as a tactical class on romulan side lvl 65 and working on one that is in discovery starfleet lvl 27. I made post a while back for help with this class and got the eisenberg ship from christmas event last year and asked for help back then with what to use as dps on my ship and can't remember or find the post for it so need help remembering what is important to use on Tactical class.
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https://account.arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline/#/discussion/1265035/having-a-hard-time-setting-up-bridge-officer-on-tactical
Thanks that save me alot of time but now to just figure out what ship to use on romulan and starfleet but right now i am using the eisenberg from the winter event but not even sure if it good to use as tactical.
You should of been able to find it yourself. Click on your name next to your avatar, that then will bring up another page listing your posts, visits to the forum, last time you visited the forum. and listed on the left hand side will be the amount of discussions you have created and comments you have made. Thus far yourself you have two discussions and one comment.
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When it comes to space, Tactical Captains have unique bonuses for.. raw damage.. and not much else. You're free to run a build that doesn't take advantage of that, but you'll be leaving potential on the table, as it were.
Tactical captains are generally great in everything from raiders to battlecruisers to even offensive science vessels. Energy Weapons, Torpedos/Mines, Exotic Damage; they boost it all.
What they are less-good in, however, are things like carriers and support cruisers. Science and Engineer captains can typically get more out of these ship types/playstyles than Tactical Captains. Not that you can't run them, but a Science captain will get substantially more out of a carrier, control, drain, or even tanking setup than a Tac will; Engineers are excellent at zone control, tanking, and keeping power levels high(which applies to a lot of playstyles).
TL;DR: It's up to you, but I suggest avoiding carriers and decide if you want to play a zippy little pew-pew ship, a big bruiser of a ship, or a sneaky space-magic bomber.
As for ship recommendations:
-=Attack Ship=-
FED: https://stowiki.net/wiki/Terran_Hydra_Intel_Destroyer
ROM: https://stowiki.net/wiki/Kholhr_Temporal_Warbird
-=Bruiser=-
FED: https://stowiki.net/wiki/Terran_Lexington_Dreadnought_Cruiser
ROM: https://stowiki.net/wiki/Tebok_Tactical_Miracle_Worker_Warbird
(^or): https://stowiki.net/wiki/Khopesh_Tactical_Dreadnought_Warbird
-=Sci-Bomber(these also work well with energy weapon builds)=-
FED: https://stowiki.net/wiki/Titan_Science_Destroyer
ROM: https://stowiki.net/wiki/Surhuelh_Reconnaissance_Explorer_Warbird
https://sto.fandom.com/wiki/APU_Cruiser
https://sto.fandom.com/wiki/Kazon_Heavy_Raider
https://sto.fandom.com/wiki/Malon_Battlecruiser
https://sto.fandom.com/wiki/Mirror_Dervish_Advanced_Escort
https://sto.fandom.com/wiki/Mirror_Cheyenne_Heavy_Cruiser_Retrofit
https://sto.fandom.com/wiki/Mirror_Phoenix_Patrol_Escort
https://sto.fandom.com/wiki/Mirror_Trident_Reconnaissance_Science_Vessel
https://sto.fandom.com/wiki/Mirror_Nova_Science_Vessel_Retrofit
https://sto.fandom.com/wiki/Nihydron_Destroyer
https://sto.fandom.com/wiki/Sphere_Builder_Arehbes_Destroyer
https://sto.fandom.com/wiki/Tholian_Meshweaver_Escort
https://sto.fandom.com/wiki/Hirogen_Hunter_Heavy_Escort
https://sto.fandom.com/wiki/Mirror_Sovereign_Star_Cruiser
https://sto.fandom.com/wiki/Mirror_Emissary_Assault_Cruiser
https://sto.fandom.com/wiki/Mirror_Luna_Deep_Space_Science_Vessel
https://sto.fandom.com/wiki/Mirror_Saber_Escort_Retrofit
https://sto.fandom.com/wiki/Lukari_N'Kaam_Scout_Ship
https://sto.fandom.com/wiki/Mirror_Mogai_Heavy_Warbird_Retrofit
That is all the ships that were given to me so not sure what is good and what is trash. so testing em out.
An my only t6 ship.
https://sto.fandom.com/wiki/Eisenberg_Star_Cruiser
While it is one of those 'support cruisers' I described earlier, your Eisenberg will do just fine for now. It will feel a bit undergunned, but your tac career will help to compensate for a little.
Given the platform and career, you'll likely want to build for DEW(Directed Energy Weapons). A torpedo build is possible, and potentially more effective, but the buildcraft is probably a bit too esoteric and complicated for a newer player.
This means you're probably going with either Beams or Cannons(Turrets being more likely in this case). Which would you rather use? Additionally, which Damage Type(phaser, disruptor, plasma, etc.) do you want to use? There is no wrong answer; let us know what you WANT to use and we'll give you advice on how to set it up. Damage type will typically determine which weapon sets you go after and, in some cases, even which core sets you'll want to use.
General tips in the meantime:
-Use the 'Attack' power configuration; if you weapons power isn't 100+, you aren't dealing full damage with your weapons.
-Use "Weapon Systems Efficiency" (Comm Array stance) and Emergency Power to Weapons 3(Eng BOFF power) to help mitigate the power demands of a cruiser's firepower. You can use EPtWeapons2 in a pinch, but try to pick up 3 from the exchange as soon as you can.
-Match your Tactical Consoles to the Damage Type you're using - they stack.
-Photonic Officer(Science BOFF power) will help reduce the cooldowns of your bridge, giving you better uptime on everything.
-"Mixed Armament Synergy" and "Narrow Sensor Bands" are both incredibly powerful boosts to your damage output; look into specializing one of your BOFFs into a Miracle Worker to make use of your Miracle Worker bridge seat as soon as you're able to.
-Temporal Reputation will give you a space trait that helps to reduce your cooldowns further.
-Iconian Reputation will give you a space trait that heals you when you deal damage with energy weapons.
-Discovery Reputation will give a space trait that will cleanse debuffs from you when you deal critical hits.
-Use Attack Pattern Alpha(Captain power) whenever it's off cooldown; save Tactical Fleet for bosses; both are very powerful post-calculation("cat2") damage multipliers.
What did you think of the Eisenberg Star Cruiser build video in your thread from 2021?
The build seems to have a nice mix of storyline and some reputation consoles to provide a balance of both survivability and damage. They can be added as you progress with your character. There are lots of other options to fill things in (just ask).
The 3 Fleet tactical consoles and deflector can be replaced with storyline gear or drops if you're not in a fleet. I'd use energy specific tactical consoles and perhaps a positron deflector array.
Have you decided on an energy type (i.e. phaser, disruptor, etc) ?
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Looking at the bridge officer abilities they all seem to be good choices but lets tweak them a bit to keep things super easy..
Tactical: Torpedo Spread 1, Narrow Sensor Bands 2, Beam Overload 3
Tactical: Tactical Team 1, Attack Pattern Beta 1
Engineer: Emergency Power to Engines or Shields 1, Auxiliary to Structural 1 or Auxiliary to Dampeners 1, Emergency Power to Weapons 3, Reverse Shield Polarity 3
Engineer: Engineering Team 1
Science: Polarize Hull or Science Team 1, Hazard Emitters 2, Photonic Officer 2
The bridge officer abilities can be looked up here - https://sto.fandom.com/wiki/Bridge_officer_and_kit_abilities
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This is how I'd use the bridge officer abilities once the combat starts:
Photonic Officer 2 (PO2) - I usually use this first in order to get other bridge officer abilities available for use more often.
Emergency Power to Weapons 3 (EPtW3) - more power to your ship's weapons so they do more damage.
Beam Overload 3 (BO3) - the primary beam firing mode that hits one target at a time. (beam fire at will is another option but is multi target so will increase your threat).
Attack Pattern Beta 1 (APB1) - debuffs your targets damage resistance so that you do more damage. A "must have"
Tactical Team 1 (TT1) - distributes your shields automatically.
So during combat keep rotating the bridge officer (boff) abilities above and things should work pretty well..
PO2 --> EPtW3 --> BO3 --> APB1 --> TT1
For extra damage try activating Narrow Sensor Bands (NSB) just prior to Beam Overload.
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The rest of the boff abilities should help keep you alive..
Reverse Shield Polarity 3 (RSP3) - restores shields when taking fire
Auxiliary to Structural (A2Sif) or Auxiliary to Dampeners (A2D) - increase your damage resistance to help with survival and restore hit points (A2Sif) or increase both your damage resistance and mobility (A2D). Try them both and see what works best for you!
Engineering Team (ET) - cleanse and restore some hull
Emergency Power to Shields or Engines - increase your shield hardness a bit or increase your mobility
Hazard Emitters (HE) - cleanse and restore lots of hull
Polarize Hull (PH) - increase your damage resistance and escape from tractor beams
Are you using Photonic Officer, Emergency Power to Weapons, and Attack Pattern Beta along with your Beam Overload?
Emergency Power to Weapons (EPtW) is a "must have" along with Photonic Officer and Attack Pattern Beta. Without it there won't be enough weapons power to do much in the way of damage.
Also be sure to set your ship's power to "attack" on energy weapons builds. Maximum power to weapons always
Photonic Officer --> Emergency Power to Weapons --> Beam Overload --> Attack Pattern Beta --> Tactical Team
PO2 --> EPtW3 --> BO3 --> APB1 --> TT1
For now EPtW2 is fine instead of EPtW3. You can fill in the slot with A2D2 or A2SIF2 instead of EPtW3.
Narrow Sensor Bands 2 is available from a bridge officer trainer but you'll need to craft or purchase a specialization qualification token to use on your tactical bridge officer first to enable Miracle Worker skills on that boff.
https://sto.fandom.com/wiki/Ability:_Narrow_Sensor_Bands
For your skill tree try something like this LINK. It should get you off to a good start with energy weapons, torps, some science, and be decently sturdy. The points into readiness should help along with Photonic Officer.
Full credit for this skill tree to @darkbladejk It should be within a couple points of what he's suggested for a number of years but has been adapted for use on one of my own characters (hence the name). It works good and is versatile
I'll try and put together a list of basic Starship and Space traits for you a bit later.
Intel, Strategist, and Constable are solid secondary picks for better damage output, each has their own quirks and playstyle preferences. Intel gives you Flanking and favors quick attack ships; Constable is good for single target builds; Strategist gives you broad benefits that are good for most setups.
Command Spec is moreso if you're running torpedos and/or petspam builds. Temporal is generally for space-magic builds; Miracle Worker is more of a support/tanking spec.
At level 62, you do get a single spec manual of choice to train one of your bridge officers. You can use that to get access to Narrow Sensor Bands if the qualification manuals on the exchange are outside your current EC budget.
(Also, EPtWeapons is extra important for Beam Overload setups - make sure you run it.)
Ok thxs i have to respec to set up that skill tree but going to have to get up the reward points to get a gift on xbox so way things run on star trek is different then pc so i have to setup auto activation to use the others without opening the wheel and use the ones i have to active on the buttons.
Already got all of em put on my captain just now have to work to get the stuff i need.
It can really help to use all of one type of beam array on your ship. Doing this can enable using energy specific tactical consoles along with your beam arrays.
Tip: White (common) gear doesn't get bound to you or your account so can be resold on the exchange once you find or craft something better. The mark (i.e. Mark 12) does help but Mk 12 common is a great way to get started economically as you work on your build.
For now, focus on ones that will increase your damage for space picks. Operative and Romulan Operative are important picks for the extra crit. Warp Theorist is helpful if you decide to fly a warbird in the future.
Tactical Captains have an interesting ground trait that will let you cause Expose with your grenades; you can pair that with an Exploit weapon for some fun synergy.
Probably best to keep things simple for now and focus on your build. Here are a few basic things that work for me within the context of a Tactical officer using an energy build and not paying big bucks..
Specializations
For specializations I use Intel/Strategist except for science magic builds then Temporal/Strategist. Adjust to taste of course but these work very well for me.
Starship Traits
For starship traits some are from Zen store ships. They're entirely optional.
Emergency Weapons Cycle is a good one to start with for energy builds - Adds haste & weapons cost reduction = more damage
Calm Before the Storm - Speeds up abilities and adds haste = more damage
History Will Remember - Be more tanky
Some other starship traits that work well are free from recruitment events -
Improved Critical Systems - Temporal Agent Recruit
Improved Temporal Insight - Delta Recruit
There are other starship traits from the storyline (i.e. The Best Defense) and from event ships.
Personal Space Traits
Look for anything that mentions bonus damage, +CrtH, +CrtD..
Fleet Coordinator, Beam Training, Projectile Training, Beam Barrage, Operative
Space Reputation Traits
Precision (+CrtH), Advanced Targeting Systems (+CrtD), Tyler's Duality (+CrtH), Auxiliary Power Configuration Offensive & Defensive (adjust to taste), Energy Refrequencer (self heal when dealing damage), Chrono Capacitor Array (reduces boff ability recharge time)*
*good for those using Photonic Officer along with a couple points of tactical readiness