FLEET DONATION CHANGES!

baddmoonrizin · January 2023

Our latest update on PC brought more quality of life upgrades to our Fleet Donations program. Find out more here.

https://www.playstartrekonline.com/en/news/article/11535573

inferiority · January 2023

There's probably some technical limitations that prevent this from happening, but fleet-wide coffers would be most useful instead of ones for each individual holding.
Still, it's always nice to have some improvements made to existing features. Hopefully, the bugs will be eliminated within the next few patches...

realdarklord · January 2023

agreed.
Shared fleet-wide coffers would be much better than seperate coffers for each holding.

Most fleetmembers will just donate to any random coffer, and the doffs will pile up in the holdings that need them the least, while they would be desperately needed on another holding.

This could even make the situation worse. In the old system you contributions couldn't end up in the "wrong place". Now this is possible, and it will happen.

Please reconsider this.

cyan027 · January 2023

Can you please change "Coffer" to "Roster" or something else?

Name it "Coffer" make me feel like a lot of bodies lying in stasis pods and will be activated when needed, very Kobali don't you feel?

sthe91 · January 2023

> @cyan027 said:
> Can you please change "Coffer" to "Roster" or something else?
>
> Name it "Coffer" make me feel like a lot of bodies lying in stasis pods and will be activated when needed, very Kobali don't you feel?

While I agree it could be a Duty Roster or something like that, you might be confusing a coffer with a coffin. They mean different things. Also, the term coffer is a common gaming term and refers to a place where valuables are stored and not dead bodies.

conradhauser · January 2023

still cannot donate from overflow
that is not an 'upgrade'

aoav160 · February 2023

It's a good change. Now if you could get rid of the absurd dilithium requirements.

baddmoonrizin · February 2023

conradhauser wrote: »

still cannot donate from overflow
that is not an 'upgrade'

That's not a bug. That has gone away. Apparently, lots of people were using it as extra storage and that was never its intent.

sthe91 · February 2023

> @conradhauser said:
> still cannot donate from overflow
> that is not an 'upgrade'

I agree. I used that feature a lot. It should be re-implemented and I didn't have to choose what DOFFs to sacrifice. Now, I do.

fred26291 · February 2023

Coffer storage per facility for Doffs will not be used by me - will not fill coffers individually per facility. one main coffer that every facility can get doffs from will work much better than the system you have I will not to use.
Inability to get doffs out of overflow bag annoying and will seriously interfere with my ability to setup to fill fleet facilities.
End - New System WORTHLESS to me as it is right now and will hinder my ability to donate doffs in the future due to overflow bag change.
If your going to change the overflow bag then change the bag so no DOFFs can go into it at all cause the way you have it setup is a severe annoyance that I have no way to fix due to your changes.

crosis2014 · February 2023

So the coffers in colony are unable to be donated from. Also they are not auto generating. I cannot donate to coffers on any holding. Any update as to when this will be fixed.

realdarklord · February 2023

baddmoonrizin wrote: »

Apparently, lots of people were using it as extra storage and that was never its intent.

I wouldn't quite put it that way.
The overflow bag is just where they go when to roster is full, and once that happens we try to get rid of them ASAP - but that was only possible by accepting them into you roster (which is impossible, because it full. Otherwise they wouldn't have goner in the overflow-bag in the first place) or donating them to the Fleet. This wasn't always possible either, depending on doff-requitrements of the current projects.
So they stayed there until a fleet-project needed them.
Yes, technically you're correct, I'm using the overflow-bag as storage, but not by choice. I want them out of there, i just don't have that option.

The coffer system would have solved this problem as I could immediately donate any doff to a coffer.

Removing the ability to donate from the overflow-bag just makes the process more tedious.
Instead of just clicking "donate all" on each coffer, I have to free up a slot in the roster, and then transfer the doff from the overflow-bag to roster one by one, donate that doff, transfer the next etc...
That's just a lot of unnecessary clicking.

baddmoonrizin · February 2023

realdarklord wrote: »

baddmoonrizin wrote: »

Apparently, lots of people were using it as extra storage and that was never its intent.

I wouldn't quite put it that way.
The overflow bag is just where they go when to roster is full, and once that happens we try to get rid of them ASAP - but that was only possible by accepting them into you roster (which is impossible, because it full. Otherwise they wouldn't have goner in the overflow-bag in the first place) or donating them to the Fleet. This wasn't always possible either, depending on doff-requitrements of the current projects.
So they stayed there until a fleet-project needed them.
Yes, technically you're correct, I'm using the overflow-bag as storage, but not by choice. I want them out of there, i just don't have that option.

The coffer system would have solved this problem as I could immediately donate any doff to a coffer.

Removing the ability to donate from the overflow-bag just makes the process more tedious.
Instead of just clicking "donate all" on each coffer, I have to free up a slot in the roster, and then transfer the doff from the overflow-bag to roster one by one, donate that doff, transfer the next etc...
That's just a lot of unnecessary clicking.

I'm just telling you how it was put to me, because I asked about having donation from overflow reinstated shortly after this change happened.

sthe91 · February 2023

> @fred26291#2759 said:
> Coffer storage per facility for Doffs will not be used by me - will not fill coffers individually per facility. one main coffer that every facility can get doffs from will work much better than the system you have I will not to use.
> Inability to get doffs out of overflow bag annoying and will seriously interfere with my ability to setup to fill fleet facilities.
> End - New System WORTHLESS to me as it is right now and will hinder my ability to donate doffs in the future due to overflow bag change.
> If your going to change the overflow bag then change the bag so no DOFFs can go into it at all cause the way you have it setup is a severe annoyance that I have no way to fix due to your changes.

This summarizes the problem. When one gets a BOFF and the inventory is empty and there is room or no room in the tab under Stations the BOFF stays in the inventory unless it is full then it goes to the overflow bag. Then you either decide to commission them, add them to that tab under Stations, or change them into a manual.

Sadly, the DOFFs don't do this, if you have no room in the duty officer roster and your inventory is empty then you cannot purchase DOFFs off the exchange or other places you get DOFFs from. The solution is to either re-enable DOFF donations from the overflow bag or change that behavior listed above to the DOFF remaining in your inventory until you have room in the DOFF roster or you can donate the DOFF once it is in the inventory. Otherwise, donating to Fleet Projects has become more tedious @baddmoonrizin @chrian#9670 @ambassadorkael#6946.

conradhauser · February 2023

technically I do not use the overflow for "storage"
what is happening is I start DOff recruitment missions for the very reason to donate to fleet
however my roster is full so when the mission is complete they go to overflow
the old system let me select all of them to donate
this system requires you to have space to retrieve DOffs which you were not going to keep anyway
instead now I am limited to donating 1 at a time

sthe91 · February 2023

conradhauser wrote: »

technically I do not use the overflow for "storage"
what is happening is I start DOff recruitment missions for the very reason to donate to fleet
however my roster is full so when the mission is complete they go to overflow
the old system let me select all of them to donate
this system requires you to have space to retrieve DOffs which you were not going to keep anyway
instead now I am limited to donating 1 at a time

I am in agreement with you, I do not use my overflow for storage purposes. It is what I get when I have more DOFFs than my roster can hold. The overflow bag needs to be programmed differently and what I said above, one of those solutions needs to be implemented. I do not want to get rid of the DOFFs I already have in order to work on fleet projects. That is not fair.

mikiiy · February 2023

baddmoonrizin wrote: »

I'm just telling you how it was put to me, because I asked about having donation from overflow reinstated shortly after this change happened.

Communicate back to the devs then that this doesn't work quite well. Theres people that have expanded their doff roster to the maximum and have that maximum all filled up with purples/blues that they don't want to donate. Sure one could make 1-10 slots room on a large roster by moving a few less needed doffs away, but hows that going to really help when you want to donate hundrets?

The common approach used to be.. as fleet leader/officer your usually one of the few dealing with the doff situation, so you fly to your base, you buy 800ish of those white doffs, you open a couple hundrets until overflows full then you click donate all on the projtects that need.. open a couple hundret boxes more.. rinse repeat until alls filled. Of course you guys could fix this situation without bringing back overflow donating by allowing us to donate starbase doff packs directly to the holding coffer without opening them... like right click on a 50 stack of fleet personel - common quality duty officer, donate all to fleet coffer.. that would be a sweet QoL feature.

Btw, must-have QoL update... give us a "turn protection ON for ALL current doffs" button. Why? Because when you have a couple dozen toons that have 90-450 usefull (non-donation doffs) thats ALOT of turn-protection on clicks. Im easily wasting 10-20 minutes on a toon and hundrets of clicks just to turn protection on, on almost everything.. would be way more time efficient to have a protect-all button to click initially and then unprotect the few that one does not care about. Also a filter for protected/unprotected would also be nice.

baddmoonrizin · February 2023

mikiiy wrote: »

baddmoonrizin wrote: »

I'm just telling you how it was put to me, because I asked about having donation from overflow reinstated shortly after this change happened.

Communicate back to the devs then that this doesn't work quite well. Theres people that have expanded their doff roster to the maximum and have that maximum all filled up with purples/blues that they don't want to donate. Sure one could make 1-10 slots room on a large roster by moving a few less needed doffs away, but hows that going to really help when you want to donate hundrets?

I'm talking to them. Believe me, this is an issue that I would like to see addressed as well.

scottfreeman · February 2023

Currently only showing a donation option to colony world, and no other holdings, and not even allowing donations TO colony world.

prometheus302 · March 2023

scottfreeman wrote: »

Currently only showing a donation option to colony world, and no other holdings, and not even allowing donations TO colony world.

Came here to ask the same. Unless I missed it's removal in future patch notes, I see no way to donate doffs directly to coffers.

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