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Picard renewed for season 2

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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,688 Community Moderator
    Huh... Picard hasn't even come out yet and they picked up a second season?
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Huh... Picard hasn't even come out yet and they picked up a second season?

    Not unusual, really, you hear that from lot of shows lately. It seems the times that a show is easily cancelled after the first season are over. Maybe streaming and shorter seasons have changed the landscape?
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  • shadowkoshshadowkosh Member Posts: 1,688 Arc User
    Looks like Picard already got there second season this should be interesting
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  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 11,028 Community Moderator
    edited December 2019
    Why do people always post these things in General Discussion? /Moved
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    Why do people always post these things in General Discussion? /Moved

    Or at least make it somewhat related to STO if posting in the other forum sections. Could make a thread in General Discussion about Season 1 of Picard based on the trailer and about what changes we might see in STO due to Picard.
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    Why do people always post these things in General Discussion? /Moved

    Also, there was already a post on it in 10 Forward, might want to merge them. https://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline#/discussion/1252668/picard-renewed-for-season-2
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  • crypticarmsmancrypticarmsman Member Posts: 4,115 Arc User
    shadowkosh wrote: »
    Looks like Picard already got there second season this should be interesting

    When your lead is pushing 80 years old, it makes sense to get as much "in the can" as quickly as you can.
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  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,889 Arc User
    edited December 2019
    It seems kind of odd that a limited-distribution show would get the highest tax credit like that, but it does look like it will be a good show for those who have the budget to sign up for it.

    Seriously, the way streaming is fragmenting the TV market anyone who wants to cover all of just the streaming basics would have to pay at least $60 a month, especially the way providers are continuing to pull their content out of Netflix and other wide-range aggregators to start their own services, like Disney is doing pulling all their stuff from Netflix this month.

    At the rate it is going it will not be long before there are a hundred and more streaming services each charging a "modest fee" that all adds up to more than cable or satellite in the end for the equivalent selection.
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  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,889 Arc User
    edited December 2019
    It is a few months old (last summer's prices) and mostly from one article (though others have similar figures) but the $60 came from the basic monthly cost for the more popular services put together, each of which has things the others don't. For instance CBSAA (which I notice is not on the $47 list) is the only one carrying any of the CBS Star Trek (and yes, you can get CBSAA as an extra with Amazon Prime but it costs exactly the same as buying it directly from CBSAA so it really does not save anything).

    It breaks down like this as a national average:
    $9 Amazon Prime
    $6 CBSAA
    $7 Disney+
    $8 ESPN+
    $15 HBO Now
    $6 Hulu
    $12 Netflix

    And that list does not include HBO Max or Apple TV+ which were announced at the time but no prices given yet. In some cases buying it by the year costs less, and there may be combination packages offered (like that Hulu/HBO one) but the ones listed seem to be the versions most people get.

    Before streaming took off traditional TV and cable would have had all of the major current shows though not as big of a backlog of old series and movies (if any on-demand at all) so new shows like the DSC and whatnot would not have been behind a separate paywall.

    And to top it off, in many areas the only way to get broadband internet is to get it from the cable TV companies so you end up paying for both the cable and the streaming at the same time. In fact, in my area not only is the cable company the only available ISP faster than dialup, the price for internet without cable TV is exactly the same as it is with TV because the "package discount" from bundling the two "just happens" to be the difference in price between the package and internet-only service.

    It is good news about Disney not actually pulling their shows from Netflix though, (assuming it is more than just a PR move to kill backlash and they do not simply stop sending new stuff to Netflix or whatever on the sly).
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  • shadowkoshshadowkosh Member Posts: 1,688 Arc User
    Need the good ole days of Star Trek being on tv and pay to watch
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  • shadowkoshshadowkosh Member Posts: 1,688 Arc User
    Still don’t like the fact it isn’t on network
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  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,889 Arc User
    azrael605 wrote: »
    > @shadowkosh said:
    > Still don’t like the fact it isn’t on network

    It is on a network, a streaming network, and as I mentioned above its cheaper than cable tv service to watch it now, much cheaper.

    I love streaming tv, and I will never go back.

    Streaming services are not a network any more than a one-location brick and mortar store mailing orders out is a network, streamers are single-company services that happen to use the internet to deliver their content, and that isolated structure is fragmenting the entertainment distribution industry by throwing up paywalls.

    Viewers actually pay a lot more per show by getting them from streaming services, though if you are in a household where everyone has the same tastes it can be cheaper overall if they have enough of the particular shows they all want without paying for yet another service. It is not good for those who watch genres that have only a few decent offerings at a time though since it is likely they will be separated across different services.

    Advertisers do not particularly like the situation either, since their target audience is carved up into dozens of different streaming outlets (the big services are not the only ones out there, and some people get by watching the "loss leader" free shows and cycling through recurring "free trials" on a multitude of smaller services, sometimes aliasing to do so via proxy) so they reach fewer people for their advertising dollar, which eventually means the viewers end up paying the difference when the advertisers turn to other media.

    And like I pointed out earlier, due to the government broadband push ending in 2000 before the infrastructure was built out enough, far too many areas of the US either do not have broadband at all or they have it via a cable TV service so streaming service is an added expense, not a savings.

    Anyway, while Picard getting another season is nice in an abstract way, a lot of Trek fans will not be seeing it much if at all due to the paywall and extra hassle.
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  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
  • cylus566cylus566 Member Posts: 84 Arc User
    Television is dying Networks don't want to spend the money anymore streaming or paid television is the future of Television Programs like Star Trek.
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