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stardustt2101stardustt2101 Member Posts: 12 Arc User
So if you have, say, a rare Phoenix prize voucher, you can "turn it in" and get two uncommons, in case there's stuff in the uncommon tier but not in the Rare that you'd like to grab. Why not have a feature where, if you have vast quantities of uncommons, you can upgrade them to rares? Same with Rare to Very rare, VR to UR, and UR to Epic. This would make it more fair for those that have been trying to get something in the UR or Epic tiers, despite months (or years!) of trying, to get some of that precious legendary stuff (like ships) that some people happen to get on their first or second try.

For balance, I'd think having 5 of a lower tier upgrade provide 1 of a higher tier would work best. Thoughts?

I ask because I've been struggling to get a Vorgon Ryn'Kodan carrier for a very long time, it's the only ship I'm missing from that collection!
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  • faelon#8433 faelon Member Posts: 358 Arc User
    The single best thing they could do to revitalize the Dil economy is make the Epic Phoenix ships able to be sold on the exchange.
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  • stardustt2101stardustt2101 Member Posts: 12 Arc User
    All good suggestions; can any devs comment on this?
  • annemarie30annemarie30 Member Posts: 2,698 Arc User
    So if you have, say, a rare Phoenix prize voucher, you can "turn it in" and get two uncommons, in case there's stuff in the uncommon tier but not in the Rare that you'd like to grab. Why not have a feature where, if you have vast quantities of uncommons, you can upgrade them to rares? Same with Rare to Very rare, VR to UR, and UR to Epic. This would make it more fair for those that have been trying to get something in the UR or Epic tiers, despite months (or years!) of trying, to get some of that precious legendary stuff (like ships) that some people happen to get on their first or second try.

    For balance, I'd think having 5 of a lower tier upgrade provide 1 of a higher tier would work best. Thoughts?

    I ask because I've been struggling to get a Vorgon Ryn'Kodan carrier for a very long time, it's the only ship I'm missing from that collection!

    Funny I have 5 epics and have no desire for any of the ships
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  • faelon#8433 faelon Member Posts: 358 Arc User
    So if you have, say, a rare Phoenix prize voucher, you can "turn it in" and get two uncommons, in case there's stuff in the uncommon tier but not in the Rare that you'd like to grab. Why not have a feature where, if you have vast quantities of uncommons, you can upgrade them to rares? Same with Rare to Very rare, VR to UR, and UR to Epic. This would make it more fair for those that have been trying to get something in the UR or Epic tiers, despite months (or years!) of trying, to get some of that precious legendary stuff (like ships) that some people happen to get on their first or second try.

    For balance, I'd think having 5 of a lower tier upgrade provide 1 of a higher tier would work best. Thoughts?

    I ask because I've been struggling to get a Vorgon Ryn'Kodan carrier for a very long time, it's the only ship I'm missing from that collection!

    Funny I have 5 epics and have no desire for any of the ships
    I'm weird and have incredible luck with the gamble boxes. In the past year I've pulled almost a dozen Epic's, just from burning dil to upgrade gear. So any toons that I regularly play have gotten the Bajoran Raider for DOMINO and a few got the breen ship for Cold Hearted. Plus one got the Ferengi Warship and another the Lukari Dorito for theme builds. I think I still have 2 in the bank. I would gladly give them to someone if I could.



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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,897 Arc User
    So if you have, say, a rare Phoenix prize voucher, you can "turn it in" and get two uncommons, in case there's stuff in the uncommon tier but not in the Rare that you'd like to grab. Why not have a feature where, if you have vast quantities of uncommons, you can upgrade them to rares? Same with Rare to Very rare, VR to UR, and UR to Epic. This would make it more fair for those that have been trying to get something in the UR or Epic tiers, despite months (or years!) of trying, to get some of that precious legendary stuff (like ships) that some people happen to get on their first or second try.

    For balance, I'd think having 5 of a lower tier upgrade provide 1 of a higher tier would work best. Thoughts?

    I ask because I've been struggling to get a Vorgon Ryn'Kodan carrier for a very long time, it's the only ship I'm missing from that collection!

    Because they deemed gambling is more profitable than giving you what you want, why they discontinued lobi ships like 4 years ago
    Can't have a honest conversation because of a white knight with power
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  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,509 Arc User
    All good suggestions; can any devs comment on this?

    As a rule, Dev's won't comment on posts, so no. They stopped commenting because of the vitriol they get. Folk are a hundred times more likely to complain than compliment.

    This doesn't mean they don't read what's put in the forums however.

    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
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  • stardustt2101stardustt2101 Member Posts: 12 Arc User
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    Getting back on track here, if someone has epic tokens they have no use for, any chance they can grab a Vorgon carrier and trade it to me? @annemarie30 @faelon#8433? I can do a trade of some EC or upgrade tokens, we can talk if that's something you'd be interested in.
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  • strathkinstrathkin Member Posts: 2,671 Bug Hunter
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    So if you have, say, a rare Phoenix prize voucher, you can "turn it in" and get two uncommons, in case there's stuff in the uncommon tier but not in the Rare that you'd like to grab. Why not have a feature where, if you have vast quantities of uncommons, you can upgrade them to rares? Same with Rare to Very rare, VR to UR, and UR to Epic. This would make it more fair for those that have been trying to get something in the UR or Epic tiers, despite months (or years!) of trying, to get some of that precious legendary stuff (like ships) that some people happen to get on their first or second try.

    For balance, I'd think having 5 of a lower tier upgrade provide 1 of a higher tier would work best. Thoughts?

    I ask because I've been struggling to get a Vorgon Ryn'Kodan carrier for a very long time, it's the only ship I'm missing from that collection!

    Funny I have 5 epics and have no desire for any of the ships

    Still you can convert them to 10 Ultra's, then get 20 Experimental Ship Upgrades! Cause the Phoenix event is on now.
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  • stardustt2101stardustt2101 Member Posts: 12 Arc User
    Shoot. looks like it's not doable :(

    I just don't like that it's random what you get from a phoenix pack. If there were the option to combine lesser-quality rewards for higher-tier ones, that'd compensate for it, but still. I missed out on a few events in the past due to serving my country, and don't like that I'm basically shafted unless I get what I want through sheer, random luck. It's a complaint, yes, but I'll still keep playing the game, mostly for the pretty colours and awesome customization. I just hope that if the devs ever see this thread, they'll take it into consideration!
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  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,887 Arc User
    Eventually all the phoenix box ships will probably be in Mudds, though they are extremely expensive even when on sale, especially since they all seem to come bundled with junk to inflate the price further like the legendary ships do.
  • strathkinstrathkin Member Posts: 2,671 Bug Hunter
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    They don't want to allow upgrades, simply as people would have too many Ultra or Epic tokens then.

    As then nobody would want them, some have a few now already; hoping for something different added.
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  • aftulusaftulus Member Posts: 668 Arc User
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    The easy way to solve it is to make ultras and epics tradable on the exchange. It might even get people to farm dil/use eventually to sell them. After the initial reserves are used up at least. They would probably be worth a lot also in terms of ec.

    Combine that with allowing things to be sold on the exchange for dil directly would also help with the dil/exchange problem. And it would allow an upper area of the exchange to exist essentially up to and above 2 billion in the form of dil trades. This would also get more items back on the exchange that are currently not.

    Dil to ec is not that hard to figure out. it's approximately 160 ec per dil at 500 dill per zen at 10m ec per key.
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  • immortal976immortal976 Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    I use the Phoenix boxes for upgrade tokens so even on the occasions when I get epics I trade them down to uncommon. Since 99.9% of the stuff in them came from events I already have them from said events etc, so it would be nice to have an option other than upgrades to spend them on.
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