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Star Trek Enterprise 20th year anniversary, and not a mention by STO??
zateron
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I'm serious. No mention of anything Star Trek Enterprise related specifically as a tribute to it's 20th year anniversary.
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And yet AoY, supposedly all about TOS, is (both before and after your transfer to the 25c.) all about Enterprise's Temporal Cold War story with Agent Daniels. You don't get to enjoy one single TOS mission without him or the Not-Cool showing up. So AoY is pretty much a half-hearted hand wave by the Devs to their two least favourite series, TOS and Enterprise. You get one short arc with the trappings of one and the story of the other. As opposed to Delta rising, where you get a whole long, tedious series of missions based on an unpopular alien-of-the-week. Blecch.
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However, I found the Temporal Cold War to be the very worst thing in Enterprise. As far as I can see, the STO DEVs must have picked the worst part of Enterprise, and ran with it, just to show how much they hate it and TOS.
Incorrect, you do go back in time to assist the NX against the Tholians, although the Enterprise doesn't notice.
Just because the scenario takes you to a one-battle cameo in the ENT era as part of a mission elsewhen it does not make it a mission in the era, just a momentary detour there.
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> However, I found the Temporal Cold War to be the very worst thing in Enterprise. As far as I can see, the STO DEVs must have picked the worst part of Enterprise, and ran with it, just to show how much they hate it and TOS.
I agree with it being the worst part. If that has anything to do with the devs hating it I won't comment on that. But the temporal war is exactly why ENT was a weak show, they had little confidence to tell pre-federation stories and instead rushed to establish known patterns way too quickly.
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Ditto for that on the Ferengi.
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I know it wasn't the best received in the Trek series, but I always thought it was a really good show. I still re-watch it from time to time.
That was the Paramount executives insisting on having everything from TNG and later in the show, they insisted that the show use the Akira model from First Contact even though it was supposed to be a prequel from way before Akiras were built. Berman and Drexler had a very long hard fight on their hands to get them to compromise enough to let Drexler modify the design enough to look smaller and and earlier tech level.
The original plan was to use plasma cannons and nuclear missiles (and the plasma bolt pistols) throughout the whole series (since those were the best weapons Earth and the Romulans had during the war the series was supposed to cover at its end. However, the executives refused to allow them to do that since they thought it could not be Star Trek without phasers and photon torpedoes, so they had to tone down the damage those weapons did so the "phase cannons", "photonic torpedoes", and "phase pistols" they were required to replace them with could be shown without looking ridiculously powerful.
As for the temporal war, it wasn't the worst part by far, it was put in to try to reduce the impact of the discontinuities of the worst part (piling in all the stuff from other series) a little via paradox changes (and also to do the same for the continuity problems caused by First Contact without causing too much of a break from the earlier series.
And yes, the ENT writers could have handled the temporal cold war a bit better but considering how far behind schedule the constant executive interference kept putting them I think they did quite well with it.
I disagree, imo Regeneration is one of the best episodes of Enterprise. It's story made perfect sense in the larger Canon, unlike the Ferengi episode, and for me it serves as a perfect conclusion to my occasional borg re-watch list (Q who? -> BoBW 1+2 -> FC -> Regeneration). The Borg also did not announce their identity in "Q Who?" or "Best of Both Worlds", so it's not out of character for them to neglect doing it in this episode as well.
For anyone who really feels it breaks canon there are two possible ways to look at it:
1) FC changed history, and the TNG events as we saw them occurred without this event being in the timeline
Or
2) Regeneration directly influenced the events we saw in TNG, with the Borg's message to the delta quadrant triggering the attacks along the Romulan Neutral Zone and Dr Crusher potentially referring to Dr Phlox's report while restoring Picard to his human form. (this is MY preferred take on it).
Based on what Kael said when he was asked about it on stream I think if they do anything at all it'll probably just be a flash sale of Mudd's Faith of the Heart choice pack.
Pretty much how I saw it anyways, The Borg altered Earth's history, the episode Regeneration is literally "a sequel to the events of Star Trek: First Contact."
"Culminating in the Battle of Sector 001, wherein a Borg sphere travelled to the 21st century in an effort to assimilate Humanity in the past, as seen in Star Trek: First Contact. The sphere was destroyed, and several drones from the vessel were frozen in an Arctic glacier in 2063, which were uncovered by the Arctic scientists 90 years later in "Regeneration"-Quote Memory Alpha, so no it didn't break canon in any way. https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Regeneration_(episode)#Continuity
Polarized hull plating that were almost better than shields.
Reed being able to kill more Borg than absolutely any other man in the history of the Collective.
Vulcans being bad guys.
The only Vulcan losing her mental discipline.
A Vulcan in a catsuit...really?
Augments as the reason for no ridges.
No "Disastrous first contact with the Klingons" which would have been terrific to see.
Dying Scott Bakula's hair...which I'm still sick about, because that colour did NOT work for him!
Phlox being able to overcome assimilation.
Reed singlehandedly inventing red alert.
Transporters so capable that they're able to beam components out of an attacking ship?
Decontamination chambers for the sole purpose of looking like saunas and acting like bathhouses.
I could go on and on, but I really do appreciate it more, because it felt more like Star Trek to me. I miss episodic seasons, instead of these great run-on soap style ones. The great thing with episodic...if there was stinker, there was only one. With the new format, if you can't stand the premise, you're stuck with a season's worth of it.
For the anniversary though, I would have loved a themed episode or event. I bet Scott and numerous others would have returned just for one episode and little bit of voice work.
It would have to have a FUN reward though, not one of the naff ones of recent years. Something akin to the Shotgun...maybe a Battle Porthos!
There are exactly three (TNG, DS9, VOY) that ever got that far.
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I am not sure the T'Pol being half Romulan thing would have gone over very well with the fans. It would have looked even more like they were just taking things from the movie and TNG eras and putting them in ENT with the names changed since Savaak was Romulan but raised in Vulcan society and T'Pol would have been more or less just more of the same.
Funny you mention that (and I agree and am a fan of the show too); but IF you go back and look at the comments made by Star Trek fans during its network run; it's about as bad/maybe a bit worse than all the fan hate the current crop of first run Star Trek is seeing.
I'm sure in 20 years, the current crop of series will see a similar fan response to what ENT is seeing 20 years after it debuted...It's all happened before and will happen again; as long as they keep making new Star Trek after a few years hiatus.
(Since the original Star Trek has gone of the air, there's never been more than a 4 year gap before some new Trek film or TV project hits - and we had 18 years of constant new Star Trek from 1987 - 2005.)
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That's executives for you....bean counters, who think they are both intelligent and talented, and thinking THEY know what the fans want and like, but, in actuality, are not.
Given they ignored the 50th anniversary of Star Trek as a franchise other than a last-minute giveaway because of all the flak they were getting, are you surprised?