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kell69
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I would like to see the Kligon K'Vort Claas in game. It is as big as a Galaxy Class and all would need to be done is to keep it from going into attack mode with the wings.
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But could be fun to see the KDF get it as a frigate type of Bird of Prey rather than a classic raider type. They could also add another unique one as a scout type Bird of Prey.
K'Vort class as a frigate.
And some other as a scout ship.
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Not only that, I feel like the chances of "crossed wires" affecting the B'rel greatly increase as well. Possibility of B'rel parts getting scaled up, becoming janky with other B'rel family parts, malfunctioning wings...
If anything... I'd rather see a redesign to separate it outright from the B'Rel look. Call it a K'Vort Refit or something. But just upscaling a B'rel... is not only lazy, but risky with the possibility of things that can go wrong with the existing B'rel.
I don't see how things could go wrong with the existing B'rel, they would just copy the model and animations to a new file named K'vort and that's it, any further changes wouldn't affect the B'rel because they are separate files at that point. And lazy isn't really the right word here, sure it was lazy for the people doing TNG to use the same model for two different ships but it wouldn't be lazy for Cryptic to do the same thing, they would simply be following canon at this point. I really think this is a case of something the devs simply don't want to do, and I really can't blame them for it either given the circumstances.
There's some logic here though about the B'rel size versus the K'Vort's size & compatibility but still hopefully one day.
It'd be nice to have a K'Vort finally in STO but I'm hesitant of Cryptic's application towards it now since not Fed, not in design, but in giving it decent stats & features.
Also, in dialog it has been referred to as simply a "cruiser", which implies that it is not a battlecruiser, light cruiser, or heavy cruiser, which along with screenscraping and measuring images would put it at about the size of some of the larger raptors.
Canon wise... its just an upscaled B'rel. Trying to decide how to differenciate a theoretical refit so that it is different from the B'rel to avoid potential code conflicts with the B'rel.
Understandable with the potential kitbashing needing to look fitting between smaller & bigger ships. I don't think Cryptic has done a "legendary" Raptor-class yet though so I'd be for it even if it's non-official. Heck label it Mirror Universe or something to get it over the finish line if needed.
> Canon wise... its just an upscaled B'rel. Trying to decide how to differenciate a theoretical refit so that it is different from the B'rel to avoid potential code conflicts with the B'rel.
I think it's fair to say that it being an upscaled B'rel is purely down to budget constraints of the show, and thus the K'vort is a prime candidate for reimagined art.
So long as it has the general silhouette of a very large B'rel with upswept wings, much of the smaller details could be redone to make a totally new design.
Perhaps the K'vort design is the design the Romulans stole plans for to base the Mogai on? Or an inspiration for the Scimitar's overall layout? Then you could work back from there and replace Romulan or Reman design language with Klingon to arrive at the general planform of the K'vort, finalising the design with an egg-shaped command module, perhaps a precursor to the Negh'Var forward hull?
The Romulans are the ones with the energy problems that they had to go to the insanely dangerous quantum singularity cores to solve, so they are probably the main source of movable warp field shaper based designs in the quest for more efficient warp fields, like the moving wings (in fact, back when FASA had the tabletop RPG license Paramount told them pretty much that), and originally the BoP that Kruge had was a Romulan design before they simplified the script to cut time. In The Search For Spock it was the Klingons who stole the design, not the other way around (though ENT muddled that up quite a bit).
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Step 3: K'vort
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The B'rel lowers it's wings when you enter combat, so that's not a PERFECT approximation of the K'vort (wings should stay raised), lol.
> and originally the BoP that Kruge had was a Romulan design before they simplified the script to cut time. In The Search For Spock it was the Klingons who stole the design, not the other way around (though ENT muddled that up quite a bit).
True, but as spielman1 said, ENT renders that bit non-canon now. Perhaps it could still be canon that BoP designs are all based on a romulan design stolen before ENT though.
Also, my comment regarding the Mogai was based on a quote from one of the concept artists (though this was many years ago, and my memory sketchy,) that the Mogai had some klingon design language, like the downswept wings and long neck, because tech was frequently being stolen or traded back and forth between the two empires, and thus had an influence on the design.