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Is the dilithium exchange disabled??
gaevsman
Member Posts: 3,190 Arc User
I cannot buy zen in the Dillex system, there is no offer, and no information at all.. it is disabled or it's just me?
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I have never seen the Dilex empty ever in my 10 and a half years on this game..
It never has been before, but it will be the new normal. It’s the result of Cryptic devaluing Dilithium and pushing Zen sales through the roof. I expect their ‘solution’ will be to push the cap up from 500:1 which of course will be a pointless and stupid mistake.. but they’ll do it anyway.
This is how it is from now on, thanks Cryptic!
I agree the lack of new fleet building and other things where you could spent Dilli on is not helping. So yeah they pretended to care for a bit and though that putting the phoenix box permanently in would help keep the price down. They were wrong and I don't think they really care. Maybe its the start of the end for this game.
Neverwinter has had their Astral Diamonds to Zen Exchange at cap for years from what I've heard, so it doesn't seem to be a true game killer for Cryptic. Probably will drop the number of free players, and players that used the Dil Exchange for discounts on ships, but as long as the whales stay they'll still be good. The only true death would be if enough free players leave and the whales start bolting themselves if they have no one to play with.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
Was NW's cap originally 500 also? Either way, by what percent did they increase it?
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
I don’t play it, but apparently, they went from 500 to 750 and it capped again the same day.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
Yeah, currently the wait time is around 155 days from posting till filling for Zen on the Neverwinter exchange.
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We are comparing the economic model itself, the degree of which each currency is needed is without question different. The overall problem though remains the same, one currency that's extremely valuable which can be had in exchange for another currency that is constantly de-valued and that is used to maintain that the game is 'free to play.' The core problem is a Cryptic problem that stretches across their titles.
You are right, the situations are not exactly the same.. but they are very similar.
Agreed, the path to a viable Dilithium Sink is something that the entire player base will want. Fleet Holdings are often funded by a few strongly dedicated fleet leaders while everyone else just watches and reaps the benefits. Would some players start funneling their excess Dilithium into new holdings if they were made? Sure.. Would it be enough players to effect the exchange rate? Nope.
Adding fleet holdings is a short sided and lazy solution.
We should be able to buy some ships.. like old events ships, directly with dillithium... so you have alternatives, like T5 ships, cost dill and is one per char, muds unlock them for the account, and phoenix helps you get them for free.. if you manage to get a coupon, of course.. but also, phoenix gest unlocked by account... so peaple really sink dill on those things..
The problem starts to happen when all the big fleets start finishing their holdings. As they aren't pushing the projects, the demand for Dilithium drops.
Fleet Holdings are only temporary measures that will only last as long as the big active fleets need it. Once they're done... the exchange rates reflect that with the rising prices.
Phoenix tokens are per-character.
Selling event ships for dil might or might not help. It would need to be a very high dil price, 1-2 million or more, and people would probably be happier buying phoenix where they have a chance (in a thousand) from opening just one box and they get a useful consolation prize with the tech upgrade.
I hate to say it, and it would probably be poorly received, but they probably need some kind of maintenance fee on these holdings. I know they don't want to make things impossible for small fleets, so maybe it could scale? But whatever the case, as you mentioned the problem is finishing a holding and never needing to invest in it again. Maintenance would address that. And, for what it's worth, benefit the person investing if they need fleet credits.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
What's needed is a sink that will have consistent value and can remove large quantities of dilithium on a consistent basis. It needs to be something that folks will want to invest large sums of dilithium into that won't lose value like the phoenix packs. While phoenix packs provide a steady downward pull, they're not enough on their own, and once folks have what they want from the boxes and have upgraded everything they want to upgrade, they kind of just exist.
Couple fleetmates and myself were talking about this stuff last night as well and the subject of cosmetic items came up, and letting us do more to cosmetically alter our ships, weapons, and so on. An example being if someone likes the visual effects of the terran disruptor, they could pay x amount of dilithium to make all their disruptors use that visual. Other games have this and I've seen folks spend hundreds of hours to make their toons look the way they want, or grind for hours to get the appropriate appearance item.
Another item that came up was allowing folks to purchase lobi with dilithium at a higher rate, but binding those items to character. To prevent dilithium overload from getting worse, you could only purchase lobi with dilithium. You wouldn't be able to cash your lobi in for dilithium. Some folks wouldn't like the idea of character only, and I doubt this would ever happen, but it was an idea we kicked around. Until viable sinks come in or the cap on the exchange is just straight up lowered from 500, we will continue to see issues like this.
All that's going to do is infuriate the playerbase and cause people to leave in droves and come off as a punishment to free to play folks. It would be viewed as the whales maxing out the exchange, but the free to play bunch is punished. Dilithium isn't just for purchasing zen, but is also used to upgrade items, buy alot of items, and even re-roll items. If you cut the ability of players to produce dilithium from what it is now, you're also severely nerfing their ability in those other areas. folks are limited to 8k per toon per day, which has remained the same for years. the problem is that the supply has been allowed to build and build and build, with nothing to remove any of that built up supply. Much like a bathtub with the water allowed to flow freely with a closed drainplug. If one wants to maintain a healthy level of water while still keeping the faucet running, one must have adequate drainage to prevent excess water.
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It would be on refining dil so it wouldn't affect getting fleet dil from KDF admiralty.
My stake: I don't buy or sell dil so the exchange being maxed doesn't really affect me. My dil goes to the fleet projects, Phoenix boxes, and re-engineering.
Not only that... its bound to punish less active fleets for not being more active. "You gotta do this or lose your fleet holdings". That's a death sentence for some fleets, and might also encourage some of the more active fleets to actually PURGE members to cut maintenance costs as well if it scales with amount of members. And I'm not talking about deadweight inactives that haven't logged in for years. I'm talking active members.
Maybe a new hull material instead?
I'd be willing to pay just to unlock my Vengeance and JJprise hull materials on other fed ships, same with the bridges from those two ships as well.