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kosmi7
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Before i write the new idea i hope i didn't miss the section to post this and that i didn't duplicate the post, but searching the forum i didn't find any so i assumed that there were none in the recent future.
I was thinking about the new mechanics for new tetyron weapons. Lets say that the new ones would have same dmg as the old ones but with proc that would give constant % dmg or dmg % based on shield % to the enemy hull while shield that is taking dmg from those weapons is up. I don't think about bleedtrought that can bypass shields i am thinking about some kind of feed pulse from the enemy shields while taking shield dmg from tetryon weapons, that way with those weapons you would deal more dmg to the hull unlike with other type of weapons. After the shield are down or depleted(only the facing side) then proc would not be able to activate or work since as mentioned there is no shield facing the direction of tetryon fire.
I don't know math what was used for dmg balance so i gave rough idea(hope devs can make something of it) for those weapons to be able to get in same spot with phaser and disruptor weapons in popular spot. I like all the weapons in the sto but somehow for now i have feeling that only phasers and disruptors get all the love. I really would like to see more weapons in the game it would be much more fun in tfo seeing more and more different weapons and it would also make exchange more liver with new weapons instead of 3-4 types that are in the current meta.
Please write more idea if you have for this weapon type or critics.
Before i write the new idea i hope i didn't miss the section to post this and that i didn't duplicate the post, but searching the forum i didn't find any so i assumed that there were none in the recent future.
I was thinking about the new mechanics for new tetyron weapons. Lets say that the new ones would have same dmg as the old ones but with proc that would give constant % dmg or dmg % based on shield % to the enemy hull while shield that is taking dmg from those weapons is up. I don't think about bleedtrought that can bypass shields i am thinking about some kind of feed pulse from the enemy shields while taking shield dmg from tetryon weapons, that way with those weapons you would deal more dmg to the hull unlike with other type of weapons. After the shield are down or depleted(only the facing side) then proc would not be able to activate or work since as mentioned there is no shield facing the direction of tetryon fire.
I don't know math what was used for dmg balance so i gave rough idea(hope devs can make something of it) for those weapons to be able to get in same spot with phaser and disruptor weapons in popular spot. I like all the weapons in the sto but somehow for now i have feeling that only phasers and disruptors get all the love. I really would like to see more weapons in the game it would be much more fun in tfo seeing more and more different weapons and it would also make exchange more liver with new weapons instead of 3-4 types that are in the current meta.
Please write more idea if you have for this weapon type or critics.
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Phaser and disruptor are favoured because of the amount of bonus damage thingies available, not for the proc. (although, like standard Antiproton, the fact that the various Linked Phaser/Disruptor weapons have fixed bonuses instead of procs does help)
1.) Shield Stealers (they heal your shields for the damage they do)
2.) An added Kinetic Component (they do extra damage to the hull once they've burned through the shields)
That said, I'm way more interested in more tetryon damage bonuses(sets, uni consoles, whatever) being added to the game at this point(and better support for cannons). If it comes with a new tetryon type; great.
#2 would probably be a Ferasan thing, since they're the ones who developed Tetryon-Infused Railguns (and thus apparently, the duelist weapon from PvPRep by extension) according to Jayce's Navy Interstellar #8.
As for new tetryon variants, I'd like to see one that's basically the opposite of the passive effect on the Terran Rep set weapon - I. E. instead of doing more damage the lower the target's health gets, it starts off doing extra (shield-penetrating) damage that slowly decreases as shield health drops for that target until it settles into normal levels of damage for that particular weapon's rank/rarity. Such a weapon with a passive effect like that wouldn't be any more or less effective against targets with little-to-no shields (like some Borg targets in certain Borg TFOs) than a regular tetryon weapon is currently, but they'd pack a nice punch against enemies with large amounts of shields or particularly strong shield resistance...like Tzenkethi.
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Tetryon torpedoes would also be a good idea.
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There's already a Tetryon Energy torpedo. It's called the Advanced Diffusive Tetryon Torpedo Launcher, and it's from the Lobi store.
There's already Phased Tetryon energy weapons & a Tetryon Torpedo.
The Torpedo is part of the Tzenkethi space equipment set.
The Phased Tetryon weaponry is part of the Tholian & Infinity weapon boxes.
What Cryptic could & should do imo is make this type of weaponry more accessible.
If you own a ship that comes with standard "specialized" weaponry then allow it to unlock the possible purchase of that type of weaponry via the dilithium store as an example along with the specific & Infinity lockboxes.
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I have Piercing Tetryon on my Xyfius instead, thought about Resonating, & it does good dps, but you're too true about the re-engineering lottery gamble. Cryptic went ahead & made it look like a slot machine too. lol
Procs were changed from per shot to per cycle as you were seeing some insane effects from certain procs. Coalition Disruptors were able to stack in some instance a -200 disruptor damage resist or more. It also added a ton of additional calculations per shot.
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> There's already Phased Tetryon energy weapons & a Tetryon Torpedo.
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> The Torpedo is part of the Tzenkethi space equipment set.
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> The Phased Tetryon weaponry is part of the Tholian & Infinity weapon boxes.
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> What Cryptic could & should do imo is make this type of weaponry more accessible.
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> If you own a ship that comes with standard "specialized" weaponry then allow it to unlock the possible purchase of that type of weaponry via the dilithium store as an example along with the specific & Infinity lockboxes.
I didn't know about the torpedo as I don't keep track of Lobi items (too expensive Single claim) but I know phased tetryon exists but it's barely accessible any more because the infinity weapon boxes are bound. If at least they were phoenix box weapons...
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I agree about the Lobi items being expensive & restrictive.
I wish Cryptic would rearrange that Infinity lockbox now since it's so bloated with small items & make those weapon packs not a random gamble too.
It was a gamble & loss of a big prize just to get the weapon pack then another gamble to get a weapon you want? Cryptic should make the weapon packs selectable to choose the weapon a player wants.
You're correct though making them more accessible would be a positive so Cryptic probably won't do it unless behind another paywall like they did the Corrosive Plasma.
Well the idea was to put new tetryon with new visuals and new mechanics in order to get more players to use it like sensor-linked phasers or other kind. Lets say from lock box and therefore players could buy it from the exchange.
Well if Cryptic has such desires then places such things behind paywalls Cryptic should expect diminished results then. No one wants to spend inflated-earn currency like Lobi on a newly released weapon/set then it turns out to be a dud. Add it in through missions/events or something accessible to all then any such new mechanics will be better tested & tried out.
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I agree. Have it like the other ship specific specialized weapons that can be bought via ship then bought from the dilithium store: Spiral Wave, Andorian Phaser, Lethean Disruptor, Dewan Plasma, & the Advanced Disruptors & Phasers. I'm probably missing one or two.
> Well if Cryptic has such desires then places such things behind paywalls Cryptic should expect diminished results then. No one wants to spend inflated-earn currency like Lobi on a newly released weapon/set then it turns out to be a dud. Add it in through missions/events or something accessible to all then any such new mechanics will be better tested & tried out.
I was thinking from lock box not lobi. Like sensor-linked phasers thise can be both for 2-5 m from the exchange. The mission ones would be nice like one unique new type that give some bonus that would dedine tetryon realy nice... Like only good weapons with really good procs or bonuses comes behind lock box or lobi so i think if they add some good tetryon type in the game would be fair to give some investmwnt into that.
> Dil store would also work. You had to 'earn' it too, but not gamble for it. If we just could pull upgradable Mark Infinity (scaling to XII) ones from the dil store (and of the weapon type we desire, not random ones) it'd help greatly.
That works too. That way it would be locked behind the ship. Now i only dislike that idea because it can come with lock box ship like advance phasers(i really want those but can't get it with my 0 luck...) . It would be more achivable and i think cheaper to get from the exchange as other people sell it.
> > @angrytarg said:
> > Dil store would also work. You had to 'earn' it too, but not gamble for it. If we just could pull upgradable Mark Infinity (scaling to XII) ones from the dil store (and of the weapon type we desire, not random ones) it'd help greatly.
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> That works too. That way it would be locked behind the ship. Now i only dislike that idea because it can come with lock box ship like advance phasers(i really want those but can't get it with my 0 luck...) . It would be more achivable and i think cheaper to get from the exchange as other people sell it.
But the exchange is not reliable, supply dries out and the weapon you want may only be listed for 10 million or above. I'd rather not depend on other players with that. I wouldn't tie the weapons to the ship either, because what is the point? The weapon visuals for hundreds of dollars? (Advanced phasers are c-store weapons, in the big anni bundle for 200 or so).
They could put the dil store weapon unlock in the Mudd store as well, thpugh I personally wouldn't pay more than 1000 Zen for a cosmetic weapon unlock that comes with additional dil costs. And they are mostly cosmetics, procs are neglible since they nerfed them to work 'per cycle'.
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Alternatively, add rare 'recipe' items to weapon packs that let you craft them in that visual style. It'd open up a new market for a lot of those older lockbox weapons that have all-but-vanished from the exchange.
If the weapons are wanted and selling good then mk XII will never go to high only re-engineered ones will go to high price due to high dil cost to upg. And as long as there is high demand for the new weapons people will put them on the exchange. But bear in mid that only good weapons with stats (i am not consindering visuals) can only be equiped per one of that type on the ship. And any other good weapon with good stats is lock box or loby or ship exclusive... With stats we sugested here i think it will min be behind lockbox.
Tetryon flat out needs better procs....
The shield drain is rather weak because some targets just die before their shields are even stripped down...and some targets don't have shields at all.
Easily probably the worst proc in the game short of standard or kelvin phaser procs (But who cares about procs when you have so many phaser damage boosts?)