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evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
On Reddit a week or so ago Kael confirmed that there would be additional Legendary ships later this year, and that people who reacted negatively to the anniversary bundle would probably be interested in one of them. With that in mind, I thought it might be fun to speculate on what these ships might be. Based on last year I'm going to predict 3 ships at least, so my predictions are:

Klingon boost bundle with D7
Not sure which version of the D7 they would go with, would be nice if they could make the TOS, JJ, and Disco parts interchangeable but idk if each ship is sized the same.

TOS boost bundle with Miranda
A Miranda class with a TOS model would be nice, though if they do another Miranda I would hope they either make it an escort this time or give it an "escort mode" that promoted the tac seat and demoted the engineer seat.

Kelvin timeline bundle with Vengeance
Similar to the Mirror Galaxy-X bundle with the Kelvin uniforms and such. There's several different ways they could go with the ship: JJPrise inspired, Disco, TOS, 2409, or something else entirely. Since it's the most popular Lobi ship it would probably be a big seller too.

Anyone have any different predictions?
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  • foxrockssocksfoxrockssocks Member Posts: 2,482 Arc User
    D7/K'tinga for sure. Its the most iconic ship missing so far. Then next most likely I'd say is D'deridex.
  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
    D7/K'tinga for sure. Its the most iconic ship missing so far. Then next most likely I'd say is D'deridex.

    I agree that the D'deridex would likely be the next Romulan Legendary, but I wouldn't expect another individual Romulan Legendary until after each faction has a boost bundle. I'd say the earliest we would see the D'deridex is the 2022 Anniversary Bundle.
    Legendary Dyson bundle. Now that cross-faction flying is a thing and all that.

    If they ever update the Dyson ships they'll be normal C-Store, possibly with a ships of the line bundle option.
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  • kidinthehall#2744 kidinthehall Member Posts: 69 Arc User
    I feel like the D7 bundle will probably be $150 or more as I'm guessing they'll include all 3 versions, the D7/K'T'inga, the Disco D7 and the Kelvin D7 as possibly separate ships.
  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
    I feel like the D7 bundle will probably be $150 or more as I'm guessing they'll include all 3 versions, the D7/K'T'inga, the Disco D7 and the Kelvin D7 as possibly separate ships.

    It'll likely be a boost bundle just like Romulans and Disco Feds got, so only one ship, a level boost, plus some extras with a $120 price tag.
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  • joshmauljoshmaul Member Posts: 519 Arc User
    I'm fairly sure it's going to involve the D7 in SOME fashion or form.

    As for other predictions... admittedly, I wouldn't mind seeing a TOS Fed one, but with the Pioneer-class ship. The TOS and Disco Feds are the only ones without T6 equivalents of their starter ships. The Malachowski is ugly as sin (but then again, so are most of the "background" Disco ships), but the Pioneer is actually not that bad looking.
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  • joshmauljoshmaul Member Posts: 519 Arc User
    Ehh, not so sure about some on that list. The D7, the Bortasqu', and the Scimitar I consider the most likely out of them. Probably the D'Deridex and the Negh'var as well. The others are iffy.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,523 Community Moderator
    I can't see the Vengeance being a Legendary honestly.

    D7 I will say is pretty much a guarantee.
    Negh'var and D'Deridex likely.
    Bortasqu' and Scimitar likely.
    Sarco... maybe.

    La Sirena and California class... not likely at this time IMO. Besides we don't even have the Cali in game yet in any capacity.
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  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,445 Arc User
    On Reddit a week or so ago Kael confirmed that there would be additional Legendary ships later this year, and that people who reacted negatively to the anniversary bundle would probably be interested in one of them.

    What he didn't say is that we'll probably be extremely miffed again at what next 'vastly' overpriced bundles they will release, with 1 Legendary ship and a load of un-necessary fluff (including pointless ships) to bump the price up.

    It's not often I say this, but one is rather miffed at Cryptic at the moment! :lol:
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  • fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 5,051 Arc User
    I doubt they would make the Vengeance legendary. It's not even a ship from our timeline. And it wasn't really a hero ship or even part of a major faction (section 31 isn't technically Starfleet).

    If more ships are coming, I think the D'Deridex and maybe the Mogai are more likely and deserving candidates. Maybe even the Luna.

    After that, I'd assume that canon designs like the Akira and Nebula especially and maybe the Prometheus would get that treatment. The Vesta could be made into a legendary ship too.
  • fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 5,051 Arc User
    Ships I can see being made legendary at some point
    • La Sirena
    • Cerritos
    • D7
    • Negh'Var
    • Sarcophagus
    • Bortasqu
    • Scimitar
    • D'deridex
    I could see them maybe doing the Vengeance, or Titan.

    Making La Sirena a legendary ship would be one of the worst choices thinkable.

    It's not a Starfleet, KDF or Romulan Republic ship. As far as we know, there's only one of those ships. And it's basically a new ship, seen from 2410. In all ways, calling it 'legendary' would be strange.
  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    edited February 2021
    The only ones I think are a given are the D7 and the Vengeance. Doesn't matter what timeline the Vengeance is from it's wildly popular and not doing it would just leave money on the table.

    Honestly, I don't really see any other ship mentioned here getting the Legendary Treatment anytime soon. The D'deridex and Scimitar should be obvious choices but they are part of an abandoned faction. They might get it just because I can't imagine it's much work.. just add a few bells and whistles to already existing ships and then over charge like crazy for it. Still, they seem pretty opposed to doing anything Romulan, even when they're a focal point in a current show (Picard.)

    I am assuming the D7 is the next one.
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  • fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 5,051 Arc User
    Making La Sirena a legendary ship would be one of the worst choices thinkable.

    It's not a Starfleet, KDF or Romulan Republic ship. As far as we know, there's only one of those ships. And it's basically a new ship, seen from 2410. In all ways, calling it 'legendary' would be strange.
    Uhh no. As far as we know theres tons of them. The La Sirena is a Kaplan F17 Speed Freighter, a generic civilian small transport ship that has been slightly modified by Rios, and had been use for years before Picard began.

    And ANY hero ship viable for the legendary treatment. Same reason why would are likely to see a Legendary California Class at some point, despite the California Class being like one of the worst ships in the fleet. The Cerritos is the hero ship of Lower Decks, like the La Sirena was the hero ship of Picard.

    Ok, so it's a generic transport ship. A legendary transport ship that isn't in any way outstanding, would be silly.

    It may be true that being a hero ships would make it eligible for legendary treatment. But then the question would be: is it a hero ship?

    We don't even know yet if the ship will play a significant role in the next season(s). Contrary to the Enterprise NX and A-E or Voyager and the Defiant, the ship didn't play much of an important role in the first season. For the first time, the ship was just that: a ship, a vessel to transport a crew. Or more accurately, passengers.

    A ship should do more than just appear in a single season as the only ship the protagonist (in this case, mostly people we hardly got to know and haven't seen for more than (parts of a) season) set foot on before you'd consider it a hero ship.
  • fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 5,051 Arc User
    The only ones I think are a given are the D7 and the Vengeance. Doesn't matter what timeline the Vengeance is from it's wildly popular and not doing it would just leave money on the table.

    Honestly, I don't really see any other ship mentioned here getting the Legendary Treatment anytime soon. The D'deridex and Scimitar should be obvious choices but they are part of an abandoned faction. They might get it just because I can't imagine it's much work.. just add a few bells and whistles to already existing ships and then over charge like crazy for it. Still, they seem pretty opposed to doing anything Romulan, even when they're a focal point in a current show (Picard.)

    I am assuming the D7 is the next one.

    It's popular indeed, but that's why I don't think they're going to add it to the C-store in a legendary bundle. If so many people are willing to spend lobi, why would you give it to them for Zen?

    The Crossfield, alternate Enterprise and NX classes were far less popular so for those ships it made sense to include them. Not that many people were going to open promo boxes or spend lobi to get those ships, so you might as well try and sell them through other means.

    And there remains the issue that it's not a hero ship. If it does get the legendary treatment, it would make as much sense to make Son'a, Borg or Undine ships - ie, enemy ships - legendary ones.
  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
    The only ones I think are a given are the D7 and the Vengeance. Doesn't matter what timeline the Vengeance is from it's wildly popular and not doing it would just leave money on the table.

    Honestly, I don't really see any other ship mentioned here getting the Legendary Treatment anytime soon. The D'deridex and Scimitar should be obvious choices but they are part of an abandoned faction. They might get it just because I can't imagine it's much work.. just add a few bells and whistles to already existing ships and then over charge like crazy for it. Still, they seem pretty opposed to doing anything Romulan, even when they're a focal point in a current show (Picard.)

    I am assuming the D7 is the next one.

    It's popular indeed, but that's why I don't think they're going to add it to the C-store in a legendary bundle. If so many people are willing to spend lobi, why would you give it to them for Zen?

    The Crossfield, alternate Enterprise and NX classes were far less popular so for those ships it made sense to include them. Not that many people were going to open promo boxes or spend lobi to get those ships, so you might as well try and sell them through other means.

    And there remains the issue that it's not a hero ship. If it does get the legendary treatment, it would make as much sense to make Son'a, Borg or Undine ships - ie, enemy ships - legendary ones.

    It's popular and it's been out for a long time, I think there's a good chance that that particular ship has reached a point where sales have begun to drop simply because everyone already has it. It's position as a consolation prize also means it's not as well monetized as it could have been if they'd put it directly in a box instead, but a Legendary variant would allow them to cash in on it again.

    As for it not being a hero ship neither is the mirror Galaxy-X (Terrans are not heroes), and it's more well known than the mirror Galaxy-X. Sure the standard Galaxy-X was a hero ship but that only appeared in an alternate future shown in a single episode, and the Mirror bundle is clearly focused on the Terran version. I think a few, select legendary villain ships would work as long as they were particularly memorable in the villain role. We also already have the Legendary T'liss which definitely isn't a hero ship.

    Based on how the Mirror bundle was built I think a similar JJ bundle is a safe bet, and there are only a handful of options for ships. The JJPrise is in the 10th anniversary bundle so that's out, and the Einstein (USS Kelvin), Freedom (USS Franklin), and Spock's ship don't seem popular enough to carry a bundle the way the Galaxy-X did, but the Vengeance could break C-Store sales records.
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  • garaffegaraffe Member Posts: 1,353 Arc User
    I certainly hope we see some more Klingon legendaries, a D'deridex, a Scimitar, and a legendary Jem bug and/or dread before we see any more Fed legendaries.
  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
    edited February 2021
    garaffe wrote: »
    I certainly hope we see some more Klingon legendaries, a D'deridex, a Scimitar, and a legendary Jem bug and/or dread before we see any more Fed legendaries.

    The most consistent thing about the C-Store is that more fed ships get released than other factions due to higher sales, so it's guaranteed that there will be more fed legendaries this year. I think it's highly likely that all "factions" will have a boost bundle at some point so a Jem'Hadar ship will come eventually and the bug and dread carrier are the two obvious choices. Personally I'd expect the bug to be the Jem'Hadar bundle ship, probably with a Vanguard skin and pilot maneuvers.
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,875 Arc User
    I was looking forward to a legendary Bortasqu...but that probably wont happen now. D7 is probably the last legendary Klingon ship we'll see.

    Could see a legendary Cardenas that have a lt cmdr tac since that was the main reason a lot disliked it.

    Maybe a legendary Universe class since it's now the only Enterprise without a legendary version

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  • qultuqqultuq Member Posts: 989 Arc User
    Technically we don’t have a legendary Enterprise G, H, or I either—but I am not expecting those for a few hundred years.
  • discojerdiscojer Member Posts: 533 Arc User
    How about a Legendary Kobayashi Maru? It's so legendary it's in my browser's spell check dictionary. Make it a pilot warship
  • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 3,215 Arc User
    edited February 2021
    As much as I'd want a Legendary D'Deridex it will likely be handled similarly to the Legendary Galaxy since both the original galaxy and d'deridex share the same setup, the LGalaxy was given full command spec but nothing else. The setup is the reason why I won't buy the regular D'Deridex.
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  • phoeniz1994phoeniz1994 Member Posts: 102 Arc User
    edited February 2021
    i do really hope we get at least a Ship Models revamp for the Warbirds, the Fed and KDF ships became wonders to behold, it would befperfect if the Romulans get to undergo the same makeover ( The T'Liss became Gorgeous )
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    avoozuul wrote: »
    As much as I'd want a Legendary D'Deridex it will likely be handled similarly to the Legendary Galaxy since both the original galaxy and d'deridex share the same setup, the LGalaxy was given full command spec but nothing else. The setup is the reason why I won't buy the regular D'Deridex.

    I would really love to see the LD'D get something a little more interesting than command. For my playstyle, command is the most boring/useless specialization, followed closely by intel.
    i do really hope we get at least a Ship Models revamp for the Warbirds, the Fed and KDF ships became wonders to behold, it would befperfect if the Romulans get to undergo the same makeover ( The T'Liss became Gorgeous )
    I am sure we will get some new models, but I have to disagree with you on the new T'Liss, I think it is ugly. I would have preferred an updated/reworked T'varo or Malem skin. I do not like the modernized 60's aesthetic.
  • phoeniz1994phoeniz1994 Member Posts: 102 Arc User
    garaffe wrote: »
    avoozuul wrote: »
    As much as I'd want a Legendary D'Deridex it will likely be handled similarly to the Legendary Galaxy since both the original galaxy and d'deridex share the same setup, the LGalaxy was given full command spec but nothing else. The setup is the reason why I won't buy the regular D'Deridex.

    I would really love to see the LD'D get something a little more interesting than command. For my playstyle, command is the most boring/useless specialization, followed closely by intel.
    i do really hope we get at least a Ship Models revamp for the Warbirds, the Fed and KDF ships became wonders to behold, it would befperfect if the Romulans get to undergo the same makeover ( The T'Liss became Gorgeous )
    I am sure we will get some new models, but I have to disagree with you on the new T'Liss, I think it is ugly. I would have preferred an updated/reworked T'varo or Malem skin. I do not like the modernized 60's aesthetic.

    The T'Varo was also upgraded, it looks great now and has its own material now
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  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,404 Arc User
    edited February 2021
    garaffe wrote: »
    I would really love to see the LD'D get something a little more interesting than command. For my playstyle, command is the most boring/useless specialization, followed closely by intel.
    The major issue with Intel and Command abilities is that they could be somewhat useful... if it didn't take so long for them to be active, especially the innate ones.

    By the time you get Intel abilities ready for activation, if your target isn't a boss enemy and your build isn't focused on DPS, weapon or exotic abilities, your target has most likely been vaporized before you even reached the 5th stack.

    By the time you get Command abilities ready and you don't have at least 3 command abilities that don't have a long cooldown (which is only a few), you probably have cleared the entire map by yourself.

    Compare them to MW abilities that only require a 3-button combo that can't be broken (so if the combo is Sci, Tac, Eng and you accidentally use 2 Sci abilities in a row, the first Sci in the combo is still activated and you can cast the Tac one later) and have various useful Boff abilities, from heal to debuff and AoE DOT, and Pilot ones only requiring a double tap for invulnerability and quick repositioning.

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  • szerontzurszerontzur Member Posts: 2,724 Arc User
    D7 seems the most likely for the next one. Makes sense; don't have much to add.

    Wishlist:
    Mirror Negh'var - similar to the Mirror Gal-X bundle; Give it a Kopesh layout and KDF players(like myself) will be all over it.
    Mirror D'deridex - ^; Give it a secondary deflector, Full MW, and make it science-heavy.

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  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
    garaffe wrote: »
    I would really love to see the LD'D get something a little more interesting than command. For my playstyle, command is the most boring/useless specialization, followed closely by intel.
    The major issue with Intel and Command abilities is that they could be somewhat useful... if it didn't take so long for them to be active, especially the innate ones.

    By the time you get Intel abilities ready for activation, if your target isn't a boss enemy and your build isn't focused on DPS, weapon or exotic abilities, your target has most likely been vaporized before you even reached the 5th stack.

    By the time you get Command abilities ready and you don't have at least 3 command abilities that don't have a long cooldown (which is only a few), you probably have cleared the entire map by yourself.

    Compare them to MW abilities that only require a 3-button combo that can't be broken (so if the combo is Sci, Tac, Eng and you accidentally use 2 Sci abilities in a row, the first Sci in the combo is still activated and you can cast the Tac one later) and have various useful Boff abilities, from heal to debuff and AoE DOT, and Pilot ones only requiring a double tap for invulnerability and quick repositioning.

    Yeah the baked-in intel and command mechanics could really use a revamp, they're pretty much useless now.
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,875 Arc User
    Legendary Mogai/Valdore and or Scimitar with Nemesis Romulan uniform included in the pack...I'd love that one
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  • garaffegaraffe Member Posts: 1,353 Arc User
    szerontzur wrote: »
    Mirror D'deridex - ^; Give it a secondary deflector, Full MW, and make it science-heavy.
    I D'D styled science ship, I can get behind that very much so, yes!

    garaffe wrote: »
    I would really love to see the LD'D get something a little more interesting than command. For my playstyle, command is the most boring/useless specialization, followed closely by intel.
    The major issue with Intel and Command abilities is that they could be somewhat useful... if it didn't take so long for them to be active, especially the innate ones.

    By the time you get Intel abilities ready for activation, if your target isn't a boss enemy and your build isn't focused on DPS, weapon or exotic abilities, your target has most likely been vaporized before you even reached the 5th stack.

    By the time you get Command abilities ready and you don't have at least 3 command abilities that don't have a long cooldown (which is only a few), you probably have cleared the entire map by yourself.

    Compare them to MW abilities that only require a 3-button combo that can't be broken (so if the combo is Sci, Tac, Eng and you accidentally use 2 Sci abilities in a row, the first Sci in the combo is still activated and you can cast the Tac one later) and have various useful Boff abilities, from heal to debuff and AoE DOT, and Pilot ones only requiring a double tap for invulnerability and quick repositioning.

    Yeah the baked-in intel and command mechanics could really use a revamp, they're pretty much useless now.

    I couldn't agree more with all this.
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    Legendary Mogai/Valdore and or Scimitar with Nemesis Romulan uniform included in the pack...I'd love that one

    Maybe they could also finally give us a Reman Resistance uniform at the same time!
  • vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,914 Arc User
    it's insane to not have the D7/K'tinga. it holds the record for most appearances in the most series/movies. the only series it doesn't appear in are Picard, LD and Enterprise, it's in TMP and Undiscovered country.. I would have plopped down the cash for an account unlocked D7 last payday if it had been in the legendary KDF bundle. I would not even care if it had a spec.
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    it's insane to not have the D7/K'tinga. it holds the record for most appearances in the most series/movies. the only series it doesn't appear in are Picard, LD and Enterprise, it's in TMP and Undiscovered country.. I would have plopped down the cash for an account unlocked D7 last payday if it had been in the legendary KDF bundle. I would not even care if it had a spec.

    There is going to be one eventually...we already know they started working on a Kronos 1 skin. It's just a matter of when...

    It's pretty evident the Devs want this legendary pack to fail, and you know they want to milk the most iconic Klingon there is...a ship model that has been used in almost every if not every series. (I don't recall if there was one in TNG? Been a while since I've seen it)
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