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75% off Mudd's Store sale

nccmarknccmark Member Posts: 1,083 Arc User
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    garaffegaraffe Member Posts: 1,353 Arc User
    Still a rip-off, in my humble opinion.
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    doctorstegidoctorstegi Member Posts: 1,189 Arc User
    Yeah it would only work if somebody would actually turn the sale on...
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    legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 37,280 Arc User
    yeah, i'm not seeing anything ingame, even though we're past the time indicated in the blog...though, as most things usually started at 10 am pacific in the past and we're still a few minutes away, i'm going to wait and see if it starts then​​
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    nccmarknccmark Member Posts: 1,083 Arc User
    That stinks
    Yeah it would only work if somebody would actually turn the sale on...

    Sadly, not the first time recently I have noticed sales starting an hour or two later than stated.
    But yeah, maybe in 10 minutes it will all be active.

    I tend to wait until several hours after a posted start time to look for stuff, more or less because of this.
    The details are often mostly right, but not quite right.
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    legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 37,280 Arc User
    yep, it started at 10 AM pacific as i thought it might *puts nanopulse pitchfork away*​​
    Like special weapons from other Star Trek games? Wondering if they can be replicated in STO even a little bit? Check this out: https://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1262277/a-mostly-comprehensive-guide-to-star-trek-videogame-special-weapons-and-their-sto-equivalents

    #LegalizeAwoo

    A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
    An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
    A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
    A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"


    "It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
    "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
    Passion and Serenity are one.
    I gain power by understanding both.
    In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
    I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
    The Force is united within me.
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    discojerdiscojer Member Posts: 533 Arc User
    At 75%, the bundles are actually good deals. $12 for regular T6 ships (coupons), like 45 zen per key, like $24 for lobi ships

    The prices on past event ships are still lousy ($45)
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    tehibristehibris Member Posts: 74 Arc User
    The Stealing Time box doesn't let you choose multiple of the same (non-ship) item like it should...
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    fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 4,789 Arc User
    Great, a ridiculously expensive store will 'just' be expensive now.
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    tom61stotom61sto Member Posts: 3,637 Arc User
    tehibris wrote: »
    The Stealing Time box doesn't let you choose multiple of the same (non-ship) item like it should...

    They've edited the Blog to indicate that now at least:
    "But I can choose the non-ship items again?

    You sure can, up to three times each, per purchase of a bundle.

    Even within the same purchase?

    That’s right. If you only want Keys, you can purchase a bundle that includes keys once, choose the Keys three times, and get 150 Keys. It’s up to you!

    This unfortunately doesn't apply to the Stealing Time pack. You'll have to purchase that pack multiple times to get multiple of the same item."

    You think they could've made changes to make it more in line with the ones after it for as long as it's been pulled from the store.
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    pwecangetlostpwecangetlost Member Posts: 538 Arc User
    Its a shame, feeling a bit mugged off having only just got the dread pack so recently. Really disincentivises picking them up. Oh well, live and learn - don't fall for FOMO as they'll have them pack at like half the price again in two weeks.
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    millefune#8468 millefune Member Posts: 310 Arc User
    edited December 2020
    Anyone on PlayStation know if the Amarie Smuggler Ship from the Mudd's Stealing Time pack has the custom interior that the PC version has? Also, if I choose the Temporal Destroyer, does it unlock all three faction-types of Temporal Destroyer, so I don't have to pick it three times to have it for my Starfleet, KDF, and Romulan Republic characters?
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    pwecangetlostpwecangetlost Member Posts: 538 Arc User
    Also, if I choose the Temporal Destroyer, does it unlock all three faction-types of Temporal Destroyer, so I don't have to pick it three times to have it for my Starfleet, KDF, and Romulan Republic characters?

    Can't speak for the interior, but getting the destroyer should unlock all of the faction variants.
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    tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    Thoughts on the Faith of Heart bundle? Only 2 ships are cross faction and the NX is Fed only, also the trait is already found on the Legendary Fed 10 Ship Bundle, which I have. No T6 ship coupons in this Bundle which is weird, it would of made my choice easier.

    So I can choose 50 Master Keys (can not be traded or put on Exchange), 300 Lobi Crystals (stuff is still all single player and no account unlocks) and 10 Ultimate Tech Upgrades.

    7375 for bundle. 2 Ships I can use, 3rd ship I will skip since trait I already have and ship is not cross faction to KDF. So is either of the 3 remaining choices worth the roughly 2460 zen? Keys and Lobi are all for single player items, so only real choice left is the Ultimate Upgrades... so much easier if they had the choice for 2 T6 zen ships.
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    westx211westx211 Member Posts: 42,215 Arc User
    > @tigeraries said:
    > Thoughts on the Faith of Heart bundle? Only 2 ships are cross faction and the NX is Fed only, also the trait is already found on the Legendary Fed 10 Ship Bundle, which I have. No T6 ship coupons in this Bundle which is weird, it would of made my choice easier.
    >
    > So I can choose 50 Master Keys (can not be traded or put on Exchange), 300 Lobi Crystals (stuff is still all single player and no account unlocks) and 10 Ultimate Tech Upgrades.
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    > 7375 for bundle. 2 Ships I can use, 3rd ship I will skip since trait I already have and ship is not cross faction to KDF. So is either of the 3 remaining choices worth the roughly 2460 zen? Keys and Lobi are all for single player items, so only real choice left is the Ultimate Upgrades... so much easier if they had the choice for 2 T6 zen ships.

    While the NX is fed only, you get the NX equipment pack for non fed toons, so it can be useful for that. (Which is the console/weapon, I don't remember the thing, and the NX trait. Which the legendary NX does not unlock for non feds)

    On the other hand the other 2 ships are 1 lockbox and 1 lobi ship. Both are pretty good ships. But the bundle is very escort heavy.

    For 7,375 zen, its honestly still a pretty good deal, personally I might pass on it, its the only mudd pack I'm missing, but I'm probably going to grab the Legendary Walker since I'm assuming they'll have a sale on all legendary packs starting after this one, or later this month.
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    foppotee#4552 foppotee Member Posts: 1,704 Arc User
    Anyone on PlayStation know if the Amarie Smuggler Ship from the Mudd's Stealing Time pack has the custom interior that the PC version has? Also, if I choose the Temporal Destroyer, does it unlock all three faction-types of Temporal Destroyer, so I don't have to pick it three times to have it for my Starfleet, KDF, and Romulan Republic characters?

    I don't play console & never even considered a ship or ships having no or different interior just because of the pc versus console. If I remember correctly the Amarie is a freighter interior slightly modified with the options.

    Also, correct, if you chose the Temporal Destroyer from the Mudd bundle then you'll have it for: Fed, KDF, & Rom versions & same for the Temporal Sci Vessel too. So selecting those 2 options could actually fetch you 6 ship versions across your account.
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    foppotee#4552 foppotee Member Posts: 1,704 Arc User
    tigeraries wrote: »
    Thoughts on the Faith of Heart bundle? Only 2 ships are cross faction and the NX is Fed only, also the trait is already found on the Legendary Fed 10 Ship Bundle, which I have. No T6 ship coupons in this Bundle which is weird, it would of made my choice easier.

    So I can choose 50 Master Keys (can not be traded or put on Exchange), 300 Lobi Crystals (stuff is still all single player and no account unlocks) and 10 Ultimate Tech Upgrades.

    7375 for bundle. 2 Ships I can use, 3rd ship I will skip since trait I already have and ship is not cross faction to KDF. So is either of the 3 remaining choices worth the roughly 2460 zen? Keys and Lobi are all for single player items, so only real choice left is the Ultimate Upgrades... so much easier if they had the choice for 2 T6 zen ships.

    Regarding the Keys included, I'm not confirming nor denying, but that darkbladejk forum moderator is saying, under "Mud's Market Keys!" thread, that the Keys in his experience are NOT bound. So ???
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    tom61stotom61sto Member Posts: 3,637 Arc User
    tigeraries wrote: »
    Thoughts on the Faith of Heart bundle? Only 2 ships are cross faction and the NX is Fed only, also the trait is already found on the Legendary Fed 10 Ship Bundle, which I have. No T6 ship coupons in this Bundle which is weird, it would of made my choice easier.

    So I can choose 50 Master Keys (can not be traded or put on Exchange), 300 Lobi Crystals (stuff is still all single player and no account unlocks) and 10 Ultimate Tech Upgrades.

    7375 for bundle. 2 Ships I can use, 3rd ship I will skip since trait I already have and ship is not cross faction to KDF. So is either of the 3 remaining choices worth the roughly 2460 zen? Keys and Lobi are all for single player items, so only real choice left is the Ultimate Upgrades... so much easier if they had the choice for 2 T6 zen ships.

    Regarding the Keys included, I'm not confirming nor denying, but that darkbladejk forum moderator is saying, under "Mud's Market Keys!" thread, that the Keys in his experience are NOT bound. So ???

    The ones I got today from the Choice of Dread pack were Account Bound. Stuff from them, except the Lobi Crystals, were trade-able. Since the packs don't follow the same rules regarding whether you can multi-claim the same item, it's possible that different packs have different binding rules, but I would have plans for what you'd want to open with your Account Bound keys even if getting a different pack.

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    millefune#8468 millefune Member Posts: 310 Arc User
    Anyone on PlayStation know if the Amarie Smuggler Ship from the Mudd's Stealing Time pack has the custom interior that the PC version has? Also, if I choose the Temporal Destroyer, does it unlock all three faction-types of Temporal Destroyer, so I don't have to pick it three times to have it for my Starfleet, KDF, and Romulan Republic characters?

    I don't play console & never even considered a ship or ships having no or different interior just because of the pc versus console. If I remember correctly the Amarie is a freighter interior slightly modified with the options.

    Also, correct, if you chose the Temporal Destroyer from the Mudd bundle then you'll have it for: Fed, KDF, & Rom versions & same for the Temporal Sci Vessel too. So selecting those 2 options could actually fetch you 6 ship versions across your account.

    The console default interiors only have the bridge and ready room that is part of the bridge map. Their turbolifts to the other decks and hallways don't work. I just want to be sure about the Amarie interior having been ported over to the PlayStation version, because I really like the pictures of the interior I've seen online. It's so much nicer than the Tuffli interior.

    Thank you, and the others, for the confirmation on the Temporal Destroyer and Temporal Science Vessel choices. $70 is quite a bit of money (the price of a brand new full game!), and I want to be sure I know what I'm getting when I spend that much money on add-ons.
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    foppotee#4552 foppotee Member Posts: 1,704 Arc User
    Anyone on PlayStation know if the Amarie Smuggler Ship from the Mudd's Stealing Time pack has the custom interior that the PC version has? Also, if I choose the Temporal Destroyer, does it unlock all three faction-types of Temporal Destroyer, so I don't have to pick it three times to have it for my Starfleet, KDF, and Romulan Republic characters?

    I don't play console & never even considered a ship or ships having no or different interior just because of the pc versus console. If I remember correctly the Amarie is a freighter interior slightly modified with the options.

    Also, correct, if you chose the Temporal Destroyer from the Mudd bundle then you'll have it for: Fed, KDF, & Rom versions & same for the Temporal Sci Vessel too. So selecting those 2 options could actually fetch you 6 ship versions across your account.

    The console default interiors only have the bridge and ready room that is part of the bridge map. Their turbolifts to the other decks and hallways don't work. I just want to be sure about the Amarie interior having been ported over to the PlayStation version, because I really like the pictures of the interior I've seen online. It's so much nicer than the Tuffli interior.

    Thank you, and the others, for the confirmation on the Temporal Destroyer and Temporal Science Vessel choices. $70 is quite a bit of money (the price of a brand new full game!), and I want to be sure I know what I'm getting when I spend that much money on add-ons.

    Wow, that would be a sucky predictament. Definitely better to make sure TWICE before any purchase. Glad you're approaching this smart & good luck.
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    foppotee#4552 foppotee Member Posts: 1,704 Arc User
    tom61sto wrote: »
    tigeraries wrote: »
    Thoughts on the Faith of Heart bundle? Only 2 ships are cross faction and the NX is Fed only, also the trait is already found on the Legendary Fed 10 Ship Bundle, which I have. No T6 ship coupons in this Bundle which is weird, it would of made my choice easier.

    So I can choose 50 Master Keys (can not be traded or put on Exchange), 300 Lobi Crystals (stuff is still all single player and no account unlocks) and 10 Ultimate Tech Upgrades.

    7375 for bundle. 2 Ships I can use, 3rd ship I will skip since trait I already have and ship is not cross faction to KDF. So is either of the 3 remaining choices worth the roughly 2460 zen? Keys and Lobi are all for single player items, so only real choice left is the Ultimate Upgrades... so much easier if they had the choice for 2 T6 zen ships.

    Regarding the Keys included, I'm not confirming nor denying, but that darkbladejk forum moderator is saying, under "Mud's Market Keys!" thread, that the Keys in his experience are NOT bound. So ???

    The ones I got today from the Choice of Dread pack were Account Bound. Stuff from them, except the Lobi Crystals, were trade-able. Since the packs don't follow the same rules regarding whether you can multi-claim the same item, it's possible that different packs have different binding rules, but I would have plans for what you'd want to open with your Account Bound keys even if getting a different pack.

    Keys being bound or not, at least to me, would weigh a lot about buying such a bundle. Especially with the way Key prices have been inflating. I usually just focus on the ships for myself. Hope you enjoy the Dread(s) you selected.
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    ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    edited December 2020
    The Dread and Faith Bundle STOWiki items were updated only a month ago. Since they are the only of these Bundles that offer Keys, I would venture to guess, the noting of Keys being Bound to Account may have been the reason for the Updates.

    Without the Binding of the Keys, choosing three Bundles of Keys would have been THE way to get Keys for Exchange Sale. With this Mudd's sale, Keys are just about 49 Zen each. Now, unless you wanted to USE Keys for your Characters, they are worthless as an income source.

    Regardless, I picked up the Faith and Dread Bundles, selecting all the Ships. The prices, with this Sale, are in the ballpark for normal Account-wide C-Store Ships on 20% Sale no less than for Lockbox/Lobi Ships (and Account-wide Fleet Grade to boot). Three for 7,375 Zen works out to 2,458 per ship.

    These Bundles also show that single ship offerings in Mudd's Store are way overpriced to begin with, even for that Store. To keep with the typical buy three pay for two paradigm their 'retail' Mudd's Market ridiculous price should be 14,750.
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    szerontzurszerontzur Member Posts: 2,723 Arc User
    Here we are again at this ~$80 price point.. I'm noticing a theme(carrier bundle, upgrade token pack, etc.).

    Those bundles might be a good deal(especially for keys), relatively speaking, but it's a shame they are mandatory bundles. If they had offered a single-choice option at that discount, I probably would pick it up(I wouldn't mind having an account-wide Paradox or S'ateth), but instead cryptic marketing decides they'd rather have no money at all. One in the hand is worth more than two(3 in this case) in the bush and all that.
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    c0nsic0nsi Member Posts: 76 Arc User
    szerontzur wrote: »
    Here we are again at this ~$80 price point.. I'm noticing a theme(carrier bundle, upgrade token pack, etc.).

    Those bundles might be a good deal(especially for keys), relatively speaking, but it's a shame they are mandatory bundles. If they had offered a single-choice option at that discount, I probably would pick it up(I wouldn't mind having an account-wide Paradox or S'ateth), but instead cryptic marketing decides they'd rather have no money at all. One in the hand is worth more than two(3 in this case) in the bush and all that.

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    foppotee#4552 foppotee Member Posts: 1,704 Arc User
    ltminns wrote: »
    The Dread and Faith Bundle STOWiki items were updated only a month ago. Since they are the only of these Bundles that offer Keys, I would venture to guess, the noting of Keys being Bound to Account may have been the reason for the Updates.

    Without the Binding of the Keys, choosing three Bundles of Keys would have been THE way to get Keys for Exchange Sale. With this Mudd's sale, Keys are just about 49 Zen each. Now, unless you wanted to USE Keys for your Characters, they are worthless as an income source.

    Regardless, I picked up the Faith and Dread Bundles, selecting all the Ships. The prices, with this Sale, are in the ballpark for normal Account-wide C-Store Ships on 20% Sale no less than for Lockbox/Lobi Ships (and Account-wide Fleet Grade to boot). Three for 7,375 Zen work out to 2,458 per ship.

    These Bundles also show that single ship offerings in Mudd's Store are way overpriced to begin with, even for that Store. To keep with the typical buy three pay for two paradigm their 'retail' Mudd's Market ridiculous price should be 14,750.

    I tend to agree that the Mudd single-ship pricing is hyper-inflated even by Cryptic's standards. The only 1 I've been interested in a bit was that Benthan ship.
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    tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    did they ever fix the Amarie Freighter for KDF side? FED side has a NPC quartermaster i the cargo hold that sells commodities on discount. KDF side is missing that NPC (I guess no Klink version) that offers up discounted commodities. I recall it's been reported but I dont know if they fixed it or if it's WAI.
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    tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    So at 4250...I think, or 4750, is the single ship with fire traits (on mobile and not sure of name) worth it? I'm leaning towards getting it now, but would like input.

    what ships do fire dmg? or weapons that do fire dmg that your ship can use? I think this is one of the free event ships with the Frekili (sp)?
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    szerontzurszerontzur Member Posts: 2,723 Arc User
    edited December 2020
    So at 4250...I think, or 4750, is the single ship with fire traits (on mobile and not sure of name) worth it? I'm leaning towards getting it now, but would like input.

    I assume you're talking about the Fekihri S'torr Warship. Universal Console can do some pretty nice burst damage; trait is gimmicky/hard to actually use. Ship itself is decent, but there are better options. I'd recommend the C-Store Temporal Warships(Vanguard, Kholhr, Edison, Chargh) over it in a heartbeat.
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