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weerunandgunn
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who wants to see the Kelvin timeline federation universe as playable characters and the Newton and the Armstrong and the Mayflower class star ships
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Another federation sub-faction seems very unlikely at this time tho.
There would be a "jump-off-point" where Daniels *yawn* would (again) pull someone out to become another temporal agent-like captain. That point would be like during or slightly before that conference from Into Darkness, where most of the captains get killed.
But it would lack an actual connection as to why, and IMO it'd be an overall bad idea to make yet another federation-subfaction.
If anything KDF still needs a DIS-pendant, and while at that, KDF-toons should be able to choose which house they belong to. Like give actual klingons a choice of 3 major houses or some minor house, all options giving a small perk.
Uhm...is there enough already?
There are obviously several ships shown in the movies which aren't in STO yet. Just because they're not everybody's cup of tea doesn't mean they shouldn't be added.
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Nein.
What you describe sounds like detective-work for our current temporal agents. The OP asked for a starting-experience. So what you look for is not a "go there", but a "from there".
Into Darkness' Captain-conference makes more sense here. Because one chosen captain could have miraculously shifted into the non-Kelvin 25th century. But it would be lame as hell, because as it is, Daniels is already doing that for TWO starting-experiences. And on top of that, federation has THREE starting-experiences. Everybody else has one, if at all (Jem'Hadar start off ready to go after a veeeeeeeery short intro-mission).
I would really just like the remaining Kelvin-ships to be added.
A starting character who was with Kuumaarke on the L.S.S. Concordium during Echoes of Light as their race began exploring space and of course were initially investigating the protomatter events. This starting point could bring the Tzenkethi back too!
And yes, I am aware of the push to get a film up and running, but no investors has shown an interest to partake of late. To which would have to spurred new designs, to which would have led to merchandising. But the market for that has dried up of late.
So no one right now, is throwing money out to a lost cause...the Kelvin films made money more than the NGen films *if true*, but they were more expensive to make and did not make great profit overall.
It *is* true. They did WAAAAAAAY better at the box-office.
But the producers and studios involved were still crying - because Transformers- and Marvel-movies made a lot more money.
Well, you must contend how strong was the fanbase for each genre was known more in the public eye. Star Trek has the leg up in tv reruns.
But when 2009 came around, the small divisions that existed before, widen thereafter...when Discovery came out, it became great chasms.
Star Trek throughout, did not have a great fanbase in the numbers as the Marvel comics and transformers had, because it was considered nerdy and it was less acceptable in society.
That slant took time to overcome, but the numbers did not grow to tremendous proportions as the other franchises did, it had the kids who became adults that kept abreast of the growing universe.
Now, we have other folks who look at the ST franchise as nothing as a gimmick to be exploited *current game company not including in that entirely*
When Paramount had it under its wings, you had folks who grew up with the franchise and knew how it should be treated. When the spilt happened, licenses divided.
CBS had no one who understood it, loved it, or highly never grew up with it.
The indifference showed over time. It will take someone with heart, business savvy and longtime knowledge to turn this around.
But as of now...there is much against it.
Eh. The 2009-movie was essentially a cashgrab too if you put it bluntly. That was their intention.
However, it was a rather well-made one that didn't outright mock the IP. On the contrary, despite the criticism it garnered, it offered a seperate timeline to co-exist with canon without interference. A lesser reboot would have not cared.
It was bluntly easy money - the timing was right, the franchise was dormant for about 5 years and making a fun space-adventure-movie with the old Enterprise and crew re-imagined was nice for a larger audience. It paid off.
The new cast was doing a good job IMO, and they cared to bridge it to prime-canon thanks to Nimoy.
Ironically the least profitable movie of the accidental trilogy is the BEST one (I blame the trailers - they made the movie look terrible at first glance).
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That's what I remember hearing as well.
To be actual, Viacom owns Paramount and CBS, but the two latters were run as separate entities within the overall ownership.
Oh Yes, it was attempted cash grab, as JJA wanted all past Trek merch to be gone, so that he gain profit on the merchandise side, and CBS said No in a blunt fashion.
Well made? That is a matter of conjecture in retrospect.
The cast was point on representation to a degree.
The spin on that past trilogy was eye candy...glitz.
That's mostly what I was thinking *before* I saw the 2009-movie. Than I ended up enjoying it.
As for reboots/re-imaginings it could have gone a lot (A LOT!) worse.