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Year of the Klingon Legendary ship pack

lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,887 Arc User
Lets face if, if this is truly the Year of the Klingon you know the devs are working on this.

First the most obvious of parallels, the TOS, Kelvin, and Discovery Constitutions...having the TOS, Kelvin, and Discovery D7s would be a no-brainer.
The TOS being Miracle Worker, the Discovery being Temporal, and the Kelvin I would guess Pilot or perhaps Command

The next obvious to me is the Bird of Prey and making it full on Pilot spec

A Command Bortasque Dreadnought Cruiser would be likely

A Miracle Worker Vorcha would be possible along with a Command Neghvar

That would leave 3 left assuming the go with 10 like the Fed ship pack

There aren't any more truly iconic Klingon ships

Perhaps a Raptor counterpart to the NX class

Could be a great time to introduce a Kvort BoP and make it a Frigate like that Elachi ship

The last ship I have no idea about other than I'd love a T6 Voquv
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,661 Arc User
    edited August 2020
    This is just a guess, but they might go with a smaller pack like 4-6 pack instead of 10, figuring that it's a smaller potential market so they need to keep the price lower to get enough sales.

    Since there's 1/3 the KDF players, they might expect a $200 pack to sell 1/3 as well and so go with a $100-150 pack instead.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,588 Community Moderator
    My theory on the Klingon Legendaries is...
    • TOS MW D7
    • Kelvin D7
    • Disco Temporal D7
    • Pilot B'Rel
    • Vor'cha
    • Negh'var
    • Bortasq'u

    The four I would say are absolutely confirmed would be the 4 ships that got new models. Don't forget that several of the hero classes Fed side got redone before the Legendary Bundle came out. Galaxy, Intrepid, Sovereign, and Defiant. So I am locking in the B'Rel, Vor'cha, Negh'var, and D7 for the KDF bundle. Adding the Kelvin and Disco for parity with the Fed as the D7 is the most iconic class and there are 3 variants. Same with the Bort as the current in game flagship of the KDF.
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  • nightkennightken Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    My theory on the Klingon Legendaries is...
    • TOS MW D7
    • Kelvin D7
    • Disco Temporal D7
    • Pilot B'Rel
    • Vor'cha
    • Negh'var
    • Bortasq'u

    The four I would say are absolutely confirmed would be the 4 ships that got new models. Don't forget that several of the hero classes Fed side got redone before the Legendary Bundle came out. Galaxy, Intrepid, Sovereign, and Defiant. So I am locking in the B'Rel, Vor'cha, Negh'var, and D7 for the KDF bundle. Adding the Kelvin and Disco for parity with the Fed as the D7 is the most iconic class and there are 3 variants. Same with the Bort as the current in game flagship of the KDF.

    good list the only thing I could think they could even remotely think of would be the d4x and the Sarcophagus.

    I think a full pilot b'rel is about as close as guaranteed as anything could be, they seem to want to do something. plus mike likes it and flys a pilot bird of prey, so it wouldn't surprise me if he is pushing for that if nothing else.

    the four iconic klingon ships plus the Bortasq'u seems a safe bet, as you said they are clearly looking at them and the Bortasq'u is their ship. though I think anything beyond that is unlikely, it could happen but I wouldn't count on it.




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  • eladonwarps#6040 eladonwarps Member Posts: 231 Arc User
    When the Klingon Civil War patrol for Seedea gave us Vo'quv and Bortasq'u Dreadnoughts as enemies, I've been hoping one of those makes it into the Legendary. If the Legendary Fed pack has Ody Dread and a Connie Carrier, that might count as a parallel offering. It would make me consider spending money on a Klingon-only offering for the first time.
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  • stostargatewarsstostargatewars Member Posts: 179 Arc User
    The first Legendary KDF had already been teased which is the TOS D-7/K't'inga in the form of Kronos One from Star Trek 6 the Undiscovered Country.
  • tom61stotom61sto Member Posts: 3,673 Arc User
    edited August 2020
    Actually, according to Kael in the last livestream, a Klingon Legendary Bundle is still in discussion and not a for-sure thing.

    The Fed one took a huge amount of time and resources (likely contributing to the lack of standard 3000 Zen C-Store ship for months now) and trying to pull off that number of ships when everybody is working from home due to Covid would be quite a bit more difficult.

    A smaller pack like davefenestrator suggests or just single Legendary like the Romulans got last (Kronos One could fit here easily) seems like it might be more reasonable.

    Personally, I just want an account unlock D7 for a reasonable price.

    When the Klingon Civil War patrol for Seedea gave us Vo'quv and Bortasq'u Dreadnoughts as enemies, I've been hoping one of those makes it into the Legendary. If the Legendary Fed pack has Ody Dread and a Connie Carrier, that might count as a parallel offering. It would make me consider spending money on a Klingon-only offering for the first time.

    There was a tease of carrier four-pack concept art during the Day of Honor Stream, with a ship that looks like a cross between a Vo'Quv and a Bortasqu', a Atrox that had wings added, a Romulan ship with a underslung hangar bay with two T'Varo's out in front and a bit of a Jem'Hadar ship. Stitched together picture on Reddit (originally scrolling)
  • vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,923 Arc User
    the K'vort is part of the 2 pack. K'vort/Nova pack made from unobtanium
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  • fallenkezef#4581 fallenkezef Member Posts: 644 Arc User
    Honestly I'd just be happy with a D7 pack in the same vein as the Legendary T'liss deal. I wouldn't buy the a multi-ship legendary deal and I doubt many other casuals would either.

    The whales and hardcore collectors would pick up a D7 pack and so would the casuals who love KDF.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,588 Community Moderator
    I still wish for individual release options for the Fed Legendaries. More accessability means more money for Cryptic. But I wouldn't be surprised if they limited which ones were released because of the Connies.
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,661 Arc User
    edited August 2020
    I do want a D7, but I also want a T6 B'Rel that's a little more tanky than the Kor.
  • philexanphilexan Member Posts: 52 Arc User
    I'd like the new B'rel to at least have some temporal seating, also for the legendary pack, it would be nice if they added some or all of the traits from the fed legendary pack, but i doubt that. Why sell 1 pack when you can potentially sell 2....
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,887 Arc User
    philexan wrote: »
    I'd like the new B'rel to at least have some temporal seating, also for the legendary pack, it would be nice if they added some or all of the traits from the fed legendary pack, but i doubt that. Why sell 1 pack when you can potentially sell 2....

    Giving the Kvort Temporal seating if they made one I think would make sense, since the first time we saw the class if I recall was back when the Enterprise C traveled through time
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  • fallenkezef#4581 fallenkezef Member Posts: 644 Arc User
    I do want a D7, but I also want a T6 B'Rel that's a little more tanky than the Kor.

    Tried the fleet B'rel?
  • haamre00haamre00 Member Posts: 17 Arc User
    I'd actually prefere a 10-pack myself - all in all, it was 1 ship for ~2k zen. The Legendary T'Varo was 4k for 1 ship (provided you
    Honestly I'd just be happy with a D7 pack in the same vein as the Legendary T'liss deal. I wouldn't buy the a multi-ship legendary deal and I doubt many other casuals would either.

    The whales and hardcore collectors would pick up a D7 pack and so would the casuals who love KDF.

    I'd actually prefere a 10-pack myself - all in all, it was 1 ship for ~2k zen. The Legendary T'Varo was 4k for 1 ship (provided you cared for the goodies added, if not - then you basically paid 6k for a single ship), as otherwise - if that approach becomes norm, we might as well end up spending 60k for 10 ships - at a "discount", instead of the 20k we had now...
  • spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 4,372 Arc User
    edited August 2020
    Honestly with klingon ships I'd call only D7,BoP and the Vor'cha "legendary" worthy, with the possible exception of the Negh'var and Bortasq'u being possible even if we assume 3 versions of D7 we get 7 ships in total. Not enough for a 10 pack though if they threw things like the MW officer that gives the House T'kuvma uniform or similar it might be enough for a pack I'd want to get if the price wasn't too high.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,588 Community Moderator
    lianthelia wrote: »
    Giving the Kvort Temporal seating if they made one I think would make sense, since the first time we saw the class if I recall was back when the Enterprise C traveled through time

    Actually... would probably make more sense to give a B'Rel Temporal seating as... well...
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,887 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    lianthelia wrote: »
    Giving the Kvort Temporal seating if they made one I think would make sense, since the first time we saw the class if I recall was back when the Enterprise C traveled through time

    Actually... would probably make more sense to give a B'Rel Temporal seating as... well...

    The Brel I figured would probably be Pilot like the Defiant is in the Fed pack
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,588 Community Moderator
    I was thinking that too, but then the Temporal K'Vort was mentioned, and honestly it would make more sense for a B'Rel due to ST4.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,887 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    I was thinking that too, but then the Temporal K'Vort was mentioned, and honestly it would make more sense for a B'Rel due to ST4.

    There just isn't much else that would fit as pilot unless maybe a Enterprise era Raptor
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,588 Community Moderator
    Also true. So I guess we have two possibilities for a Legendary B'rel.
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,887 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Also true. So I guess we have two possibilities for a Legendary B'rel.

    Was thinking they could do a Brel Pilot Raider and a Kvort Temporal Frigate
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,887 Arc User
    Well it looks like we'll be getting a T6 Voquv so don't need that on the wishlist anymore!
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  • jcswwjcsww Member Posts: 6,826 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    lianthelia wrote: »
    Giving the Kvort Temporal seating if they made one I think would make sense, since the first time we saw the class if I recall was back when the Enterprise C traveled through time

    Actually... would probably make more sense to give a B'Rel Temporal seating as... well...
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    Yes, and cross-faction also.
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,887 Arc User
    jcsww wrote: »
    rattler2 wrote: »
    lianthelia wrote: »
    Giving the Kvort Temporal seating if they made one I think would make sense, since the first time we saw the class if I recall was back when the Enterprise C traveled through time

    Actually... would probably make more sense to give a B'Rel Temporal seating as... well...
    latest?cb=20120317050343&path-prefix=en

    Yes, and cross-faction also.

    Some people wont be happy till the Fed factions takes away all exclusivity of the other factions?
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  • jcswwjcsww Member Posts: 6,826 Arc User
    lianthelia wrote: »
    jcsww wrote: »
    rattler2 wrote: »
    lianthelia wrote: »
    Giving the Kvort Temporal seating if they made one I think would make sense, since the first time we saw the class if I recall was back when the Enterprise C traveled through time

    Actually... would probably make more sense to give a B'Rel Temporal seating as... well...
    latest?cb=20120317050343&path-prefix=en

    Yes, and cross-faction also.

    Some people wont be happy till the Fed factions takes away all exclusivity of the other factions?

    Nah. I just like Star Trek IV, so I think that is a good enough reason. A cross-faction iconic ship should sell well also.
  • annemarie30annemarie30 Member Posts: 2,694 Arc User
    edited August 2020
    lianthelia wrote: »
    philexan wrote: »
    I'd like the new B'rel to at least have some temporal seating, also for the legendary pack, it would be nice if they added some or all of the traits from the fed legendary pack, but i doubt that. Why sell 1 pack when you can potentially sell 2....

    Giving the Kvort Temporal seating if they made one I think would make sense, since the first time we saw the class if I recall was back when the Enterprise C traveled through time

    actually 3 K'vort appeared in "the Defector" when the surrounded the 2 warbirds. the size of the ships make it clear they are not BoPs. The Defector was several episodes before Yesterday's Enterprise.

    as far as B'rels do, they are all universal seating, yes? so make one seat truly universal in that you can add whatever spec you want, maybe even 2 since the thing is made of cardboard
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,887 Arc User
    edited August 2020
    lianthelia wrote: »
    philexan wrote: »
    I'd like the new B'rel to at least have some temporal seating, also for the legendary pack, it would be nice if they added some or all of the traits from the fed legendary pack, but i doubt that. Why sell 1 pack when you can potentially sell 2....

    Giving the Kvort Temporal seating if they made one I think would make sense, since the first time we saw the class if I recall was back when the Enterprise C traveled through time

    actually 3 K'vort appeared in "the Defector" when the surrounded the 2 warbirds. the size of the ships make it clear they are not BoPs. The Defector was several episodes before Yesterday's Enterprise.

    as far as B'rels do, they are all universal seating, yes? so make one seat truly universal in that you can add whatever spec you want, maybe even 2 since the thing is made of cardboard

    How I'd consider building the ships would be

    Pilot Brel Raider: Cmdr Uni/Pilot, Lt Cmdr Uni/Temporal, Lt Cmdr Uni, Lt Uni, Ens Uni. 3 Eng/3 Sci/5 Tac. 5/1/1

    Temporal Kvort Frigate: Cmdr Eng/Temporal, Lt Cmdr Uni/Pilot, Lt Cmdr Uni, Lt Uni, Ens Uni. 4 Eng/3 Sci/4 Tac. 5/3
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,887 Arc User
    jcsww wrote: »
    lianthelia wrote: »
    jcsww wrote: »
    rattler2 wrote: »
    lianthelia wrote: »
    Giving the Kvort Temporal seating if they made one I think would make sense, since the first time we saw the class if I recall was back when the Enterprise C traveled through time

    Actually... would probably make more sense to give a B'Rel Temporal seating as... well...
    latest?cb=20120317050343&path-prefix=en

    Yes, and cross-faction also.

    Some people wont be happy till the Fed factions takes away all exclusivity of the other factions?

    Nah. I just like Star Trek IV, so I think that is a good enough reason. A cross-faction iconic ship should sell well also.

    One stolen ship doesn't mean suddenly the KDF is mass producing ships to hand over to the Federation. It's the year of the Klingon...if there is one time when they should be able to keep what little they have it's now
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,588 Community Moderator
    Honestly, I wouldn't want Feds to get a B'rel anyways. If they did... I'd say not an Endgame one. T4 at most, with the HMS Bounty skin. Other than that... leave the B'rel to the KDF.
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