Lets face if, if this is truly the Year of the Klingon you know the devs are working on this.
First the most obvious of parallels, the TOS, Kelvin, and Discovery Constitutions...having the TOS, Kelvin, and Discovery D7s would be a no-brainer.
The TOS being Miracle Worker, the Discovery being Temporal, and the Kelvin I would guess Pilot or perhaps Command
The next obvious to me is the Bird of Prey and making it full on Pilot spec
A Command Bortasque Dreadnought Cruiser would be likely
A Miracle Worker Vorcha would be possible along with a Command Neghvar
That would leave 3 left assuming the go with 10 like the Fed ship pack
There aren't any more truly iconic Klingon ships
Perhaps a Raptor counterpart to the NX class
Could be a great time to introduce a Kvort BoP and make it a Frigate like that Elachi ship
The last ship I have no idea about other than I'd love a T6 Voquv
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This is just a guess, but they might go with a smaller pack like 4-6 pack instead of 10, figuring that it's a smaller potential market so they need to keep the price lower to get enough sales.
Since there's 1/3 the KDF players, they might expect a $200 pack to sell 1/3 as well and so go with a $100-150 pack instead.
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My theory on the Klingon Legendaries is...
TOS MW D7
Kelvin D7
Disco Temporal D7
Pilot B'Rel
Vor'cha
Negh'var
Bortasq'u
The four I would say are absolutely confirmed would be the 4 ships that got new models. Don't forget that several of the hero classes Fed side got redone before the Legendary Bundle came out. Galaxy, Intrepid, Sovereign, and Defiant. So I am locking in the B'Rel, Vor'cha, Negh'var, and D7 for the KDF bundle. Adding the Kelvin and Disco for parity with the Fed as the D7 is the most iconic class and there are 3 variants. Same with the Bort as the current in game flagship of the KDF.
The four I would say are absolutely confirmed would be the 4 ships that got new models. Don't forget that several of the hero classes Fed side got redone before the Legendary Bundle came out. Galaxy, Intrepid, Sovereign, and Defiant. So I am locking in the B'Rel, Vor'cha, Negh'var, and D7 for the KDF bundle. Adding the Kelvin and Disco for parity with the Fed as the D7 is the most iconic class and there are 3 variants. Same with the Bort as the current in game flagship of the KDF.
good list the only thing I could think they could even remotely think of would be the d4x and the Sarcophagus.
I think a full pilot b'rel is about as close as guaranteed as anything could be, they seem to want to do something. plus mike likes it and flys a pilot bird of prey, so it wouldn't surprise me if he is pushing for that if nothing else.
the four iconic klingon ships plus the Bortasq'u seems a safe bet, as you said they are clearly looking at them and the Bortasq'u is their ship. though I think anything beyond that is unlikely, it could happen but I wouldn't count on it.
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When the Klingon Civil War patrol for Seedea gave us Vo'quv and Bortasq'u Dreadnoughts as enemies, I've been hoping one of those makes it into the Legendary. If the Legendary Fed pack has Ody Dread and a Connie Carrier, that might count as a parallel offering. It would make me consider spending money on a Klingon-only offering for the first time.
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Actually, according to Kael in the last livestream, a Klingon Legendary Bundle is still in discussion and not a for-sure thing.
The Fed one took a huge amount of time and resources (likely contributing to the lack of standard 3000 Zen C-Store ship for months now) and trying to pull off that number of ships when everybody is working from home due to Covid would be quite a bit more difficult.
A smaller pack like davefenestrator suggests or just single Legendary like the Romulans got last (Kronos One could fit here easily) seems like it might be more reasonable.
Personally, I just want an account unlock D7 for a reasonable price.
When the Klingon Civil War patrol for Seedea gave us Vo'quv and Bortasq'u Dreadnoughts as enemies, I've been hoping one of those makes it into the Legendary. If the Legendary Fed pack has Ody Dread and a Connie Carrier, that might count as a parallel offering. It would make me consider spending money on a Klingon-only offering for the first time.
There was a tease of carrier four-pack concept art during the Day of Honor Stream, with a ship that looks like a cross between a Vo'Quv and a Bortasqu', a Atrox that had wings added, a Romulan ship with a underslung hangar bay with two T'Varo's out in front and a bit of a Jem'Hadar ship. Stitched together picture on Reddit (originally scrolling)
Honestly I'd just be happy with a D7 pack in the same vein as the Legendary T'liss deal. I wouldn't buy the a multi-ship legendary deal and I doubt many other casuals would either.
The whales and hardcore collectors would pick up a D7 pack and so would the casuals who love KDF.
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rattler2Member, Star Trek Online ModeratorPosts: 58,588Community Moderator
I still wish for individual release options for the Fed Legendaries. More accessability means more money for Cryptic. But I wouldn't be surprised if they limited which ones were released because of the Connies.
I'd like the new B'rel to at least have some temporal seating, also for the legendary pack, it would be nice if they added some or all of the traits from the fed legendary pack, but i doubt that. Why sell 1 pack when you can potentially sell 2....
I'd like the new B'rel to at least have some temporal seating, also for the legendary pack, it would be nice if they added some or all of the traits from the fed legendary pack, but i doubt that. Why sell 1 pack when you can potentially sell 2....
Giving the Kvort Temporal seating if they made one I think would make sense, since the first time we saw the class if I recall was back when the Enterprise C traveled through time
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Honestly I'd just be happy with a D7 pack in the same vein as the Legendary T'liss deal. I wouldn't buy the a multi-ship legendary deal and I doubt many other casuals would either.
The whales and hardcore collectors would pick up a D7 pack and so would the casuals who love KDF.
I'd actually prefere a 10-pack myself - all in all, it was 1 ship for ~2k zen. The Legendary T'Varo was 4k for 1 ship (provided you cared for the goodies added, if not - then you basically paid 6k for a single ship), as otherwise - if that approach becomes norm, we might as well end up spending 60k for 10 ships - at a "discount", instead of the 20k we had now...
Honestly with klingon ships I'd call only D7,BoP and the Vor'cha "legendary" worthy, with the possible exception of the Negh'var and Bortasq'u being possible even if we assume 3 versions of D7 we get 7 ships in total. Not enough for a 10 pack though if they threw things like the MW officer that gives the House T'kuvma uniform or similar it might be enough for a pack I'd want to get if the price wasn't too high.
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Giving the Kvort Temporal seating if they made one I think would make sense, since the first time we saw the class if I recall was back when the Enterprise C traveled through time
Actually... would probably make more sense to give a B'Rel Temporal seating as... well...
Giving the Kvort Temporal seating if they made one I think would make sense, since the first time we saw the class if I recall was back when the Enterprise C traveled through time
Actually... would probably make more sense to give a B'Rel Temporal seating as... well...
The Brel I figured would probably be Pilot like the Defiant is in the Fed pack
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rattler2Member, Star Trek Online ModeratorPosts: 58,588Community Moderator
I was thinking that too, but then the Temporal K'Vort was mentioned, and honestly it would make more sense for a B'Rel due to ST4.
Giving the Kvort Temporal seating if they made one I think would make sense, since the first time we saw the class if I recall was back when the Enterprise C traveled through time
Actually... would probably make more sense to give a B'Rel Temporal seating as... well...
Giving the Kvort Temporal seating if they made one I think would make sense, since the first time we saw the class if I recall was back when the Enterprise C traveled through time
Actually... would probably make more sense to give a B'Rel Temporal seating as... well...
Yes, and cross-faction also.
Some people wont be happy till the Fed factions takes away all exclusivity of the other factions?
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Giving the Kvort Temporal seating if they made one I think would make sense, since the first time we saw the class if I recall was back when the Enterprise C traveled through time
Actually... would probably make more sense to give a B'Rel Temporal seating as... well...
Yes, and cross-faction also.
Some people wont be happy till the Fed factions takes away all exclusivity of the other factions?
Nah. I just like Star Trek IV, so I think that is a good enough reason. A cross-faction iconic ship should sell well also.
I'd like the new B'rel to at least have some temporal seating, also for the legendary pack, it would be nice if they added some or all of the traits from the fed legendary pack, but i doubt that. Why sell 1 pack when you can potentially sell 2....
Giving the Kvort Temporal seating if they made one I think would make sense, since the first time we saw the class if I recall was back when the Enterprise C traveled through time
actually 3 K'vort appeared in "the Defector" when the surrounded the 2 warbirds. the size of the ships make it clear they are not BoPs. The Defector was several episodes before Yesterday's Enterprise.
as far as B'rels do, they are all universal seating, yes? so make one seat truly universal in that you can add whatever spec you want, maybe even 2 since the thing is made of cardboard
I'd like the new B'rel to at least have some temporal seating, also for the legendary pack, it would be nice if they added some or all of the traits from the fed legendary pack, but i doubt that. Why sell 1 pack when you can potentially sell 2....
Giving the Kvort Temporal seating if they made one I think would make sense, since the first time we saw the class if I recall was back when the Enterprise C traveled through time
actually 3 K'vort appeared in "the Defector" when the surrounded the 2 warbirds. the size of the ships make it clear they are not BoPs. The Defector was several episodes before Yesterday's Enterprise.
as far as B'rels do, they are all universal seating, yes? so make one seat truly universal in that you can add whatever spec you want, maybe even 2 since the thing is made of cardboard
Giving the Kvort Temporal seating if they made one I think would make sense, since the first time we saw the class if I recall was back when the Enterprise C traveled through time
Actually... would probably make more sense to give a B'Rel Temporal seating as... well...
Yes, and cross-faction also.
Some people wont be happy till the Fed factions takes away all exclusivity of the other factions?
Nah. I just like Star Trek IV, so I think that is a good enough reason. A cross-faction iconic ship should sell well also.
One stolen ship doesn't mean suddenly the KDF is mass producing ships to hand over to the Federation. It's the year of the Klingon...if there is one time when they should be able to keep what little they have it's now
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Honestly, I wouldn't want Feds to get a B'rel anyways. If they did... I'd say not an Endgame one. T4 at most, with the HMS Bounty skin. Other than that... leave the B'rel to the KDF.
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Since there's 1/3 the KDF players, they might expect a $200 pack to sell 1/3 as well and so go with a $100-150 pack instead.
The four I would say are absolutely confirmed would be the 4 ships that got new models. Don't forget that several of the hero classes Fed side got redone before the Legendary Bundle came out. Galaxy, Intrepid, Sovereign, and Defiant. So I am locking in the B'Rel, Vor'cha, Negh'var, and D7 for the KDF bundle. Adding the Kelvin and Disco for parity with the Fed as the D7 is the most iconic class and there are 3 variants. Same with the Bort as the current in game flagship of the KDF.
good list the only thing I could think they could even remotely think of would be the d4x and the Sarcophagus.
I think a full pilot b'rel is about as close as guaranteed as anything could be, they seem to want to do something. plus mike likes it and flys a pilot bird of prey, so it wouldn't surprise me if he is pushing for that if nothing else.
the four iconic klingon ships plus the Bortasq'u seems a safe bet, as you said they are clearly looking at them and the Bortasq'u is their ship. though I think anything beyond that is unlikely, it could happen but I wouldn't count on it.
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The Fed one took a huge amount of time and resources (likely contributing to the lack of standard 3000 Zen C-Store ship for months now) and trying to pull off that number of ships when everybody is working from home due to Covid would be quite a bit more difficult.
A smaller pack like davefenestrator suggests or just single Legendary like the Romulans got last (Kronos One could fit here easily) seems like it might be more reasonable.
Personally, I just want an account unlock D7 for a reasonable price.
There was a tease of carrier four-pack concept art during the Day of Honor Stream, with a ship that looks like a cross between a Vo'Quv and a Bortasqu', a Atrox that had wings added, a Romulan ship with a underslung hangar bay with two T'Varo's out in front and a bit of a Jem'Hadar ship. Stitched together picture on Reddit (originally scrolling)
The whales and hardcore collectors would pick up a D7 pack and so would the casuals who love KDF.
Giving the Kvort Temporal seating if they made one I think would make sense, since the first time we saw the class if I recall was back when the Enterprise C traveled through time
Tried the fleet B'rel?
I'd actually prefere a 10-pack myself - all in all, it was 1 ship for ~2k zen. The Legendary T'Varo was 4k for 1 ship (provided you cared for the goodies added, if not - then you basically paid 6k for a single ship), as otherwise - if that approach becomes norm, we might as well end up spending 60k for 10 ships - at a "discount", instead of the 20k we had now...
Actually... would probably make more sense to give a B'Rel Temporal seating as... well...
The Brel I figured would probably be Pilot like the Defiant is in the Fed pack
There just isn't much else that would fit as pilot unless maybe a Enterprise era Raptor
Was thinking they could do a Brel Pilot Raider and a Kvort Temporal Frigate
Yes, and cross-faction also.
Some people wont be happy till the Fed factions takes away all exclusivity of the other factions?
Nah. I just like Star Trek IV, so I think that is a good enough reason. A cross-faction iconic ship should sell well also.
actually 3 K'vort appeared in "the Defector" when the surrounded the 2 warbirds. the size of the ships make it clear they are not BoPs. The Defector was several episodes before Yesterday's Enterprise.
as far as B'rels do, they are all universal seating, yes? so make one seat truly universal in that you can add whatever spec you want, maybe even 2 since the thing is made of cardboard
How I'd consider building the ships would be
Pilot Brel Raider: Cmdr Uni/Pilot, Lt Cmdr Uni/Temporal, Lt Cmdr Uni, Lt Uni, Ens Uni. 3 Eng/3 Sci/5 Tac. 5/1/1
Temporal Kvort Frigate: Cmdr Eng/Temporal, Lt Cmdr Uni/Pilot, Lt Cmdr Uni, Lt Uni, Ens Uni. 4 Eng/3 Sci/4 Tac. 5/3
One stolen ship doesn't mean suddenly the KDF is mass producing ships to hand over to the Federation. It's the year of the Klingon...if there is one time when they should be able to keep what little they have it's now