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Really the only hero Klingon Ship is Martok's BoP. IF you look at it from a certain angle you might be able to make an argument for Qo'nos 1 and the IRW Valdore. Other than that... no real hero ships to speak of.
Its not bias. Its the simple fact that Star Trek by nature is Fed Centric because of where each show takes place, and for the most part Romulans and Klingons have at one time or another been the antagonist.
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Also, this horse was beaten to death already in multiple 100+ post threads. There's also been at least one long thread discussing what non-Fed "villain-dairy" packs should moo like to give Rom and KDF their cream.
Honestly, I'd bet that they will do it down the line, but asking anyone to fork out another $200 right now is really not likely to happen. Personally I'd imagine a 4/4/2 pack with 4 KDF ships, 4 Rom, and another 2 Fed just to make it more attractive to Fed only players, but they haven't said anything at all as far as I'm aware.
No it isn't. The vast majority of Star Trek fans are fans first and foremost of the Federation and Starfleet. If they weren't, they wouldn't be fans of Star Trek (there may be exceptions to this of course). The vast majority of players of STO are fans of Star Trek. Therefore a large majority of the players of the game are fans first and foremost of the Federation and Starfleet. The player numbers we've heard over the years bear this out.
If the developers thought that a Legendary KDF bundle would sell well better than a Starfleet one, they would have done it first. If they think it will sell well enough to justify the cost, they will eventually do it. The pack we got was probably a bit of a gamble, because of the sheer number of ships and the cost of the pack for players.
Without the rest, you had no frakkin show to begin with.
Huh...
They just get less sober.
Really, how about... the Antedeans??, or... the Tamarians?, the Sheliak???... i don't see anyone rooting for them!... somebody please think about the Antedians!
I am not a moron.
For only a $1.25 you can help shelter a lost and abused Antedean.. Won't you help?
NX class
Consisution Class (3 varients)
Galaxy Class
Soverign Class
Intrepid Class
Defiant Class
Oddessy Class
Crossfield class
Now let's look at the star trek TV shows and movies to date (this pack came out before Picard had aired so we're discounting it)
and the central ship to the series
Enterprise: NX class Enterprise NX-01
TOS: Consisution Class USS Enterprise NCC 1701
TOS Movies: Consisution Class USS Enterprise NCC 1701(A)
2009 Kelvin Timeline Films: Consisution class USS Enterprise NCC 1701
TNG: Galaxy Class USS Enterprise NCC 1701 D
TNG Movies: Galaxy Class USS Enterprise NCC 1701 D and Soverign Class NCC 1701-E
DS9: The Defiant class USS Defiant
Voyager: The Intrepid class USS Voyager
Discovery: The Crossfield Class USS Discovery
do you see the Pattern here? the Legendary ships are the ones that feature as the main characters ship in the movies and TV shows. the exceptions are the discovery Enterprise, which is simply a varient on THE Hero ship, so made sense to include, and the Oddessy, which represents the Enterprise F, and is thus representive of the enterprise in modern times.
So.. what ship would people demanding a Klingon or romulan ship remvoe from this list?
I'd you sort of call the Negh'var as a hero ship, but honestly as stated there's very little "hero" ships for anything that isn't Starfleet (in-fact I'd argue that La Serena is pretty much the only one and that's a federation allied civilian craft). That is btw why Ent-B and Ent-C are missing from the pack they're not hero ships just prominent guests. Really the only ship in the legendary pack that isn't a variation of the main ship in the series is the DSC connie and it gets a pass for being a Constitution variant and thus essentially the hero ship for the entire franchice.
We do not want to take anything away, here...
How about a D70 Khin'Vagh Class Cruiser?
Count the Fed ships, then the ships from both other factions.
Hell, we Borg do not even have one.
They just get less sober.
Was at Dave with his dead horse.
Yes, it's an old, VERY old dead horse, yes.
Says a lot, eh?
We are left behind, and we're TRIBBLE tired of that.
They just get less sober.
Easy, Oddessy. It never featured in a TV show.
Put in a cross faction HMS Bounty BoP and everyone is happy.
You didn't think that through now did you?
I have 3 Klingon and 4 Romulan captains, none of them for farming. The Mat'Ha is one of my favorite tac ships, and I really wish the Qugh had a real Klingon skin available instead of (insert incoherent rant about Discovery's treatment of Klingons and their ship designs).
I'm not Fed centric, I just accept that 70% of the player base is and that Cryptic is a business.
Pretty much my view. I only have one toon I play on a regular basis, being a scruffy casual, and it's a KDF rocking the T6 Fleet B'rel. I'll get the Klingon temporal destroyer when the big event ends.
Cryptic IS a business but it seems a bit silly to isolate portions of the player base. A cross-faction legendary HMS Bounty BoP and maybe a legendary T6 Scimitar would not of been too hard to do and you could still milk the Fed-fanatics while catering to the KDF and Rom guys.
Let's be honest the Klingon Bird of Prey is THE most iconic non-fed ship in Star Trek and considering Star Trek IV is considered one of the best of the movies and HMS Bounty IS a Kirk hero ship, there is no reason not to do it as a legendary ship.
From what i know... there is an update for Klingons coming, i just saw the updated BoP in a picture the other day, and also, it seems that a new carrier is about to be released, i really hope the Klingos have some love, and Romulan too, i have an equal amount of Fed-Kling Chars, so it would be great..
So tell me again why Feds wouldn't buy a pack with KDF or ROM ships in it? Only if they couldn't use it, yeah, but now we have this alliance fleet building Khitomers, so why couldn't they refurbish some old designs and put them out for everyone to use?
I have nine toons on my main gt all of whom are Starfleet or a Romulan aligned and a Jem'Hadar aligned with the Federation. I have nine toons on my alt gt, virtually all of whom are KDF or Romulans/Remans and a Jem'Hadar Vanguard aligned with the Empire. The Legendary ship bundle as described does make sense based upon the shows/films being represented.
But it would be nice to see a bit more love shown towards the Empire and the Romulan Republic factions!
Then there is the fact that every Legendary Starfleet ship is available to every Federation-aligned Romulan Republic and Federation-aligned Jem'Hadar character. If the amount of KDF, KDF-aligned Romulan Republic, and KDF-aligned Jem'Hadar character are close to the amount of Starfleet and Federation-aligned characters, then it makes sense to sell a Legendary Klingon Ship bundle.
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I was talking about that with my KDF fleet as well. I really hope that is true. Not just for the ships but other stuff as well. Even the new hairstyles are Fed exclusive. When I tried changing my KDF to a humanoid head I still wasn't allowed to wear the new long hairdo.
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Personally, the top things I'd want in an adversary pack would be...
Legendary Scimitar - Full Command version
Legendary D'Deridex - Full Intel version
Legendary Mogai - Full Intel version
Legendary T'Liss - Full Intel version
Legendary TOS D7 - Hybrid Full Command, Secondary Pilot - Can be used by all Romulans with Romulan skins
Legendary Bortas'qu - Full Command version
Legendary Negh'Var - Full Miracle Worker version
Legendary Vor'Cha - Full Temporal version
Legendary Intel K'Vort - Full Intel version
Legendary B'rel - Full Pilot version
Legendary JJ Abrams Bird of Prey - Full Pilot, Secondary Intel
the normal t-6 vor'cha is already full temporal and the dx4 is full pilot, so those probably should be something else.
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