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T1 to T4 ships Dil only - but character unlocks

tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
Great if your only playing 1 toon. Sucks if you have a large list of characters.

T1 = 1k
T2 = 2.5k
T3 = 5k
T4 = 10k

Would be nice if they have a half off sale on T1 to T4 ships.

Wonder if this is to ease us into character unlocks going forward.
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  • revanmichaels#6727 revanmichaels Member Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited March 2020
    We had a quality of life and wish list thread on this board a couple months ago. This is the very thing I asked for only I also hoped they would make them upgradable like T5’s. Glad to see the devs read the forms.

    One thing, Am I missing it or is it implied? We will be getting admiralty cards with these ships and the skins will unlock, correct??
  • trenthowelltrenthowell Member Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited March 2020
    (remove post please, saw the updated prices and yea, they are pretty high)
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  • revanmichaels#6727 revanmichaels Member Posts: 91 Arc User
    Personally, I think as long as we get the skins and cards. I think the Dill price is freaking cheap. No complaints from me there.
  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,285 Arc User
    We had a quality of life and wish list thread on this board a couple months ago. This is the very thing I asked for only I also hoped they would make them upgradable like T5’s. Glad to see the devs read the forms.

    One thing, Am I missing it or is it implied? We will be getting admiralty cards with these ships and the skins will unlock, correct??

    Of course you'll get the admirality and skins.

    But they will not ever make all the t1-t4 upgradable. There is no need to.
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  • phoenix841phoenix841 Member Posts: 486 Arc User
    edited March 2020
    I wish we would have a ship sale before this was enacted. I'd like to complete the few ships I don't have in the C-Store. :smile:
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    edited March 2020
    They are trying to get people to purchase the somewhat less than useful ships. For someone to buy one for Dilithium it would have to be very competitively priced. For someone who needs it on all appropriate Characters, it will cost more, and in some manner be a Dilithium 'sink'. They are moving towards more things as Account Unlocks not less.

    This will spur some sales of these ships as they are fairly cheap. These ships would be useful for Consoles, skin unlocks, and Admiralty Cards.

    Edit: To account for initial release Blog lack of proofreading and new Dilithium prices for C-Store T1 - T4 prices.
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  • ikonn#1068 ikonn Member Posts: 1,446 Arc User
    While it is nice to see the low-tier ships get a major cost reduction, I think this is a step backwards with the fact that these will now be character unlocks. Speaking as an altaholic here, I see no reason to buy character unlock ships just for admiralty cards, skins, or the (ultra rarely) useful console on toons that are already 65 and have admiralty completed.

    But, of course, it is already done and Cryptic won't change anything, so what I or anyone else says about this doesn't matter in the end. They are just trying to find ways to siphon dilithium out of peoples' stockpiles.
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  • revanmichaels#6727 revanmichaels Member Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited March 2020
    > @leemwatson said:
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    > Of course you'll get the admirality and skins.
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    > But they will not ever make all the t1-t4 upgradable. There is no need to.

    They still have a few of these ships that need to be made into a T6 or at least a T5u. The Star Cruiser being first on that list for me.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 57,864 Community Moderator
    Doesn't bother me in the least. Hell... I haven't bought anything under T6 for quite a while. I wouldn't mind having access to some ships at a lower tier, even if its just for the cosmetic unlocks.
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,475 Arc User
    It's dirt cheap since you can share dil through the exchange or get 40K for $1. Dil ships have always been per-character ships.
  • joshmauljoshmaul Member Posts: 519 Arc User
    Interesting idea. One wonders if they're just going to do away with tiers altogether, given that T6 ships can be used right at the start, and all you need to do is the tutorial...
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    edited March 2020
    Also remember that these will not be reclaimible if disposed of. If you want those T1 Constitution Phasers that scale, it may end up costing you 60,000 Dilithium or 150 Zen. :o

    Edit: Corrected to account for the dopey initial release Blog and the new prices.
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  • eazzieeazzie Member Posts: 3,929 Arc User
    The original blog was a mistaken version. The newer updated blog is .... https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11394603-purchase-t1-t4-ships-with-dilithium!
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    edited March 2020
    Well, this goes hand in hand with the saying 'Let no News Blog be released without an error'. Or was that 'an egregious error'? ;)
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  • trenthowelltrenthowell Member Posts: 52 Arc User
    I just saw the updated prices, I retract my earlier statement
  • revanmichaels#6727 revanmichaels Member Posts: 91 Arc User
    Should have kept my mouth shut. We talk about how cheap the prices are, then they post a new blog and raise prices. &TRIBBLE&”;/ to h311
  • tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    Hahaha so they upped the prices by up to 15x the previous posted price... =p
  • fallenkezef#4581 fallenkezef Member Posts: 644 Arc User
    I'd like it more if I could use the skin bits for my Kor and fleet B'rel, the bug BoP are pretty cool but low tier only
  • tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    Here are the updated prices

    T1 = 15K
    T2 = 37.5k
    T3 = 75k
    T4 = 150k

    Still character unlocks. Well that would mean I just skip these going forward... didnt buy any of the old "free" T1 to T4 ships from the vendor wont buy now.
  • trenthowelltrenthowell Member Posts: 52 Arc User
    There are 2 ships that I see being worth it for their console/weapon and that is the Pesus for the M6 Computer (for those of us without DOMINO) and the T4 Defiant/Valdore for the Quads

    Other than that, skin fodder
  • tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    There are 2 ships that I see being worth it for their console/weapon and that is the Pesus for the M6 Computer (for those of us without DOMINO) and the T4 Defiant/Valdore for the Quads

    Other than that, skin fodder

    Thought someone did the math and it was concluded that Dual heavy was better than Quad due to energy drain? course this was a while back when I read it...
  • phoenix841phoenix841 Member Posts: 486 Arc User
    There are 2 ships that I see being worth it for their console/weapon and that is the Pesus for the M6 Computer (for those of us without DOMINO) and the T4 Defiant/Valdore for the Quads

    Other than that, skin fodder

    Also the T3 BoP for KDF quad.
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    They are bad purchases IMO for those costs, most especially when you consider how quick leveling is in STO.
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  • kiralynkiralyn Member Posts: 1,576 Arc User
    Looked through the store, and I've already got most of the ones unlocked that I'd care about (costume-wise) from previous free giveaways. And I'm not that motivated by low-tier Admiralty cards.
  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    I don't own most of the T1-T4 ships since they are almost all completely useless. With a very small number of exceptions for a few consoles and quads. Account unlocks are always nice and some folks may be a bit unsettled that they are no longer account unlocks. However, the trade off is more than fair. And if like me, you didn't already own those ships, you literally lost nothing by them now being single character only for dilithium instead of account unlocked with zen. Like me, you were probably never gonna buy them for zen anyway as evidenced by the fact that this is now a 10 year old game. This is especially true now that scaling T6 is a thing.
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    edited March 2020
    They are bad purchases IMO for those costs, most especially when you consider how quick leveling is in STO.

    Yeah, they're basically just expensive admiralty cards.

    They rendered everything obsolete the day they made T6 scalable. I'm not complaining, the scalable T6 decision was a great one, but they need to realize that the value of these ships is next to none. The only T4's I would pay 150k Dilithium for would be the Valdore or Defiant if I didn't have them already. I'll concede that 150k for something like the Valdore console is a heck of a deal, that console is fantastic.

    Overall, doesn't effect me.. I already own these ships account wide.. but I personally believe the prices are a bit steep considering this is all obsolete stuff that you use for 10 levels which is like.. 2 missions. :lol:
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  • potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    I doubt I'll even glance at any previously Zen Ships, I'd fleet marks over doing that. However the new lower prices on the previously dilithium ships doesn't look to bad.
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    Here is a simpler way to look at it. Since the former C-Store T1-T4 Ships are now going to be single Character purchases, ask yourself, is the original C-Store version, now Dilitium, worth 15x the cost of the same Tier original Dilitium Ship counterparts?
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