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STO needs to reach out to the old players who are inactive. The covid19 virus has caused many places around the world to shelter in place. What better way to pass the quarantine time. Perhaps this is an opportunity to increase the profits by offering a new product or mission reward.
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(Cryptic: don't use that.)
I already have to stay at home unless it's a case of absolute emergency, I'd pay to not have to try logging in 3 times just to get to the character list only to wait for 1/2 minutes to actually log in the character I want to play with
Ci sono tre tipi di giocatori:
- quelli a cui non va mai bene niente... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
- quelli che sono talmente imbesuiti da credere a qualunque cosa i dev dicano, perfino che la luna è fatta di formaggio... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
- quelli che credono a quello a cui è giusto credere, sono d'accordo con quello con cui è giusto essere d'accordo e sono critici con quello che non va;
Ai giocatori dei primi due tipi, gratis in omaggio un bello specchio lucente su cui arrampicarsi. E una mazzata in testa per la loro poca intelligenza e compassione verso gli altri giocatori che non la pensano come loro.
Agli appartenenti al terzo tipo, invece, dico grazie. Anche se non sempre si riesce a mantenere la calma, siete quelli per cui vale la pena incazzarsi.
Almost sounds like it's more the ISP rather than Cryptic's servers. Don't forget that its not a direct path between you and the server. It could be anything between you and the server that could be causing it.
If you can do a traceroute to Cryptic's servers, it might reveal where the hang up is. A lot of people report that some lag is apparently coming from the people that Cryptic hired to try and protect from DDoS attacks. Akami I want to say? Unfortunately it is apparently hard to tell normal gaming traffic from a DDoS from what I heard.
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@rattler2 yeah nope, my ISP is working just fine, just as fine as the ones of multiple fleetmates all reporting the same problems - and yes, we do have different ISPs.
I've done multiple tracerts and all points to Akamai as the source of the disturbance, which has gotten even worse since they restarted the servers the other day.
Anyway, back to the topic at hand: I agree with @evilmark444 when they say that a promo "without any mention of real world issues" could attack more people. It's worth a shot, why not?
Ci sono tre tipi di giocatori:
- quelli a cui non va mai bene niente... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
- quelli che sono talmente imbesuiti da credere a qualunque cosa i dev dicano, perfino che la luna è fatta di formaggio... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
- quelli che credono a quello a cui è giusto credere, sono d'accordo con quello con cui è giusto essere d'accordo e sono critici con quello che non va;
Ai giocatori dei primi due tipi, gratis in omaggio un bello specchio lucente su cui arrampicarsi. E una mazzata in testa per la loro poca intelligenza e compassione verso gli altri giocatori che non la pensano come loro.
Agli appartenenti al terzo tipo, invece, dico grazie. Anche se non sempre si riesce a mantenere la calma, siete quelli per cui vale la pena incazzarsi.
Have to say, I've never seen this kinda thing happen myself at home, except when the login server was down. Sometimes I've had to log in twice on my comp, but it wasn't because of the internet, it was because of my computer. (Likewise, while it can take a little time for characters/ships to load on the character select screen, I attribute that more to drive access time then internet lag.) Other internet lag I've noticed in game, usually turns out to be caused by other programs on my comp downloading and installing updates in the background. (Say security software.) Again, probably not a common issue, my comp is unusual in that it is offline more then online. Now, at a public wifi hotspot, it's been so bad I couldn't login and stay logged in, and that was due to using a shared wifi hotspot with 20+ other people, and even affected web browsing.
I'm not saying the problems you describe don't exist, just that I'm not seeing them. So the question becomes, why are you? And that I don't have an answer for, but if you could find one, maybe you could find a solution.
Back on topic, promotions now and in the near future could be a good way to pick up players, new or old, who suddenly have more free time. The trick would be getting the attention of people who may not be reading the website. (If I was working for CBS, I might try suggesting they do an STO commercial or something during Picard or maybe other Star Trek shows on H&I. Granted, it might be a budget commercial, maybe just play the Legacy trailer or something.) Or even just put an ad for STO on Picard's website. (I assume the show has one.)
“Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn.” -- Benjamin Franklin
lemme guess, you reccomend fox news?
How about turning off the TV.
Funniest damn thing I've seen all day.
Your bias is showing. Also, not just Fox News holds this opinion, the Heritage Foundation does as well and probably other organizations. There are reasonable people who are against net neutrality. You are free to disagree though.
Now, let us get back to the subject of the title which is about getting back players as a result of COVID-19 virus. No, I do not agree with the OP on this. Contrary to some people, Cryptic is not the Ferengi and they indeed live in expensive California which might be affecting why ships cost so much in the C-Store (I know it is the Z-Store but I am not going to use that phrase, it does not ring well). Only a Ferengi like Quark would think like this.
Anyway, maybe a giveaway would work, too. Something light, not necessarily big, to show some kind of support?
Wouldn't be the first company to do something like this, tbh.
Ci sono tre tipi di giocatori:
- quelli a cui non va mai bene niente... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
- quelli che sono talmente imbesuiti da credere a qualunque cosa i dev dicano, perfino che la luna è fatta di formaggio... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
- quelli che credono a quello a cui è giusto credere, sono d'accordo con quello con cui è giusto essere d'accordo e sono critici con quello che non va;
Ai giocatori dei primi due tipi, gratis in omaggio un bello specchio lucente su cui arrampicarsi. E una mazzata in testa per la loro poca intelligenza e compassione verso gli altri giocatori che non la pensano come loro.
Agli appartenenti al terzo tipo, invece, dico grazie. Anche se non sempre si riesce a mantenere la calma, siete quelli per cui vale la pena incazzarsi.
Yeah, except the OP was not talking about something as noble as a giveaway, but was suggesting Cryptic, as a result of COVID-19, seek 'an opportunity to increase the profits by offering a new product or mission reward.' To which I still, to this date, say even the proposal itself is distasteful -- let alone actually implementing it.
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> Yeah, except the OP was not talking about something as noble as a giveaway, but was suggesting Cryptic, as a result of COVID-19, seek 'an opportunity to increase the profits by offering a new product or mission reward.' To which I still, to this date, say even the proposal itself is distasteful -- let alone actually implementing it.
Well I'm the OP and you have your opinion. Mine was for Cryptic to reach out to the gaming community to recover non-active players. Besides being a way to take people's minds off their current misery it is an opportunity to increase good will towards the players. This pandemic will pass within a couple of months. So the window of opportunity is very limited. In business there are times when you have a captive audience. Now is one of those times. People can't spend money on sporting events or social activities why not promote the game?
I cannot, and refuse to see Corona as a 'business opportunity.' Promoting the game is always a good idea, as is trying to bring back non-active players. But not by taking the 'window of opportunity' created by a deadly pandemic. I have often called Cryptic greedy and the like, but still like to think they're above this. Free giveaways? I promote those! Especially when given to ppl who are home-bound now. THAT would be a nice gesture; looking at them for the purpose of extracting profit from them, not so much.
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
I see Fox News as nothing more than a propaganda channel and fully support Net Neutrality, however I have to agree with captiannemo117 when they say that killing it hasn't had any noticeable effect on service.
My post has everything to do with what the OP is talking about. I was not talking about a giveaway in my post.
Uhm, no? You said that Cryptic are not like the Ferengi - debatable, but not for this thread to assess - and that they live in California where everything is expensive and that's why ships in C-Store costs as much as they do?
That has nothing to do with OP's suggestion.
And when have I have ever said that you spoke of a giveaway?
That was *my* suggestion, not yours.
@hicks#3836 uhm, nice rant... probably to go with your thread that was closed down today. Certainly have nothing to do with that's being discussed here.
Ci sono tre tipi di giocatori:
- quelli a cui non va mai bene niente... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
- quelli che sono talmente imbesuiti da credere a qualunque cosa i dev dicano, perfino che la luna è fatta di formaggio... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
- quelli che credono a quello a cui è giusto credere, sono d'accordo con quello con cui è giusto essere d'accordo e sono critici con quello che non va;
Ai giocatori dei primi due tipi, gratis in omaggio un bello specchio lucente su cui arrampicarsi. E una mazzata in testa per la loro poca intelligenza e compassione verso gli altri giocatori che non la pensano come loro.
Agli appartenenti al terzo tipo, invece, dico grazie. Anche se non sempre si riesce a mantenere la calma, siete quelli per cui vale la pena incazzarsi.
My comment about the Ferengi is because some people think they are that way. It was my segue to talk about that the Ferengi would do a Covid-19 sale or some type of promotion during that time to make a profit. While I do not necessarily agree with all of Cryptic's decisions. That would be really messed up if they did that which is what a Ferengi would think do. If they do something, then I would find merit in the Ferengi association. They already get a lot of money from ship sales, RNG boxes, etc. which of course helps them to pay server costs, employee costs, etc. Now, I am done with this thread.