Deuterium Surplus

I was looking at the patch notes for September 10 and I saw that when you finish Defense Contract the deuterium can be used for crafting in the engineering RD. Am I missing something, because I looked and nothing comes up.
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  • ltminns
    ltminns Member Posts: 12,481 Arc User
    You get a recipe so that you can craft the Deuterium Surplus directly.
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  • bossheisenberg
    bossheisenberg Member Posts: 602 Arc User
    It does NOT work. I have done the mission twice now and nothing. Some are saying it has worked for them so what is the problem?? Is this only class specific? >:)
  • crusty8mac
    crusty8mac Member Posts: 1,370 Arc User
    It didn't work for me either. Got my four deuterium (isn't that just a can of ginger ale?) and nothing else.
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  • alcyoneserene
    alcyoneserene Member Posts: 2,412 Arc User
    Do we have to rerun that mission? Cause I still can't craft it either, and now you're saying it still won't work to craft?
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  • markhawkman
    markhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    Do we have to rerun that mission? Cause I still can't craft it either, and now you're saying it still won't work to craft?
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  • captainmarvelush
    captainmarvelush Member Posts: 112 Arc User
    I didn't get the recipe either. I run that mission nearly daily and have yet to receive it. The first time I ran it after the update I only received three "cans" instead of the usual four. The can awarded from the mission contact upon completion was not awarded and I only got the ones from the three tanks. I believe that I probably should have received the recipe then, but due to some glitch I didn't. Since then, it plays no different than it has in the past.
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  • alcyoneserene
    alcyoneserene Member Posts: 2,412 Arc User
    Indeed it's partly bugged: have done it on about 5 toons now and each got it, but on the most recent I noticed it gave me the usual 4 deuterium canisters instead of the 3 and no ability to craft it as the others have. The bug is completely random as all my toons I used have maxed R&D on all.

    Possible workaround is to just repeat it daily until it unlocks it, which I'll have to test another day due to cool-down.
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  • ltminns
    ltminns Member Posts: 12,481 Arc User
    It's like trying to craft items in the BZ on Defera. That doesn't work most of the time (though for my Discovery Character, not at all).

    Do any of those Characters have the Jem'Hadar Recipes from the second run through of 'Second Wave'?

    Does the Deuterium Recipe show up as a Mission Reward?

    Did you check other Schools to see if it ended up in Engines perhaps?
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  • davefenestrator
    davefenestrator Member Posts: 9,790 Arc User
    Is it worth the effort to craft? I suppose a consumable Evasive Maneuvers is nice, but I'm too lazy to bother :)
  • vampeiyre
    vampeiyre Member Posts: 633 Arc User
    Hell, I can't even find out how to access the mission on my new Discovery co-main.
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  • mustrumridcully0
    mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,958 Arc User
    vampeiyre wrote: »
    Hell, I can't even find out how to access the mission on my new Discovery co-main.

    You need to actually fly to the Alhena system to get a hail, like some stone age space man.
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  • captainmarvelush
    captainmarvelush Member Posts: 112 Arc User
    vampeiyre wrote: »
    Hell, I can't even find out how to access the mission on my new Discovery co-main.

    You need to actually fly to the Alhena system to get a hail, like some stone age space man.

    To my knowledge, it's always been that way.

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  • markhawkman
    markhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    vampeiyre wrote: »
    Hell, I can't even find out how to access the mission on my new Discovery co-main.
    You need to actually fly to the Alhena system to get a hail, like some stone age space man.
    To my knowledge, it's always been that way.
    Worse, it's a CONTACT, and not a system interact. :p So you fly to Alhena and, hail the Ferengi running the space station to get the mission.
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  • alcyoneserene
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    There's definitely some prerequisite to even getting that contact at Alhena. My max level alt got nothing flying right at it so couldn't test it at all. It probably depends on having completed a certain number of ordinary leveling missions.
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  • markhawkman
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    There's definitely some prerequisite to even getting that contact at Alhena. My max level alt got nothing flying right at it so couldn't test it at all. It probably depends on having completed a certain number of ordinary leveling missions.
    This is one of my conclusions. It may also be a trigger you can't satisfy as Rom or Jem. I'm not SURE about that, but I have 4 Rom and a Jem and NONE can do it.

    Here's the data table I generated today:
    Melati, Fed Eng: got 4, no unlock
    Beltran, KDF Tac: no interact
    Eridian, Fed Sci: got 3, unlock after relog
    Chuft, Fed Tac: no interact
    Drexela, Fed Eng: got 3, immediate unlock
    7 of 13, Fed Tac: no interact
    Carnlan, Fed Sci: no interact
    Monica, Fed Eng: Got 4, no unlock
    Sekkoth, Fed Tac: no interact
    Diaula, RomF Sci: no interact
    Emani, RomK Eng: no interact
    Soheth, RomF Tac: no interact
    Slarg, KDF Sci: got 3, immediate unlock <Delta Recruit, finished all DR tasks
    Zdakek, RomK Eng: no interact <DR, not as far along
    Naxaia, Fed Tac: Got 4, no unlock <DR, mostly done
    Fanlaf-Du, TOS Eng: Got 4, no unlock <leveled via story missions
    Varan'Ika, JHK Eng: no interact
    Daystustoo, Dis Sci: got 3, unlock after relog <also leveled via story missions

    Now I DID noticed something significant. If I saw a deuterium as a quest reward I didn't get the unlock. I did sometimes have to relog to see the unlock take effect though.
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  • gaevsman
    gaevsman Member Posts: 3,181 Arc User
    Guys, you have to do all the missios that Franklin Drake gives you, then you can do Alhena and others, like the Donatu Sattelites and the S'himar
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  • markhawkman
    markhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    On every character it would seem.
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  • hanover2
    hanover2 Member Posts: 1,053 Arc User
    I wish you could sell it on the exchange and/or dump it in your account bank. I have a ton of it on characters where I don't want to take up a device slot.
  • ltminns
    ltminns Member Posts: 12,481 Arc User
    Are you sure it takes up a Device Slot? I've got some other consumable that is just in Inventory and is availible for deployment.
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  • darkbladejk
    darkbladejk Member Posts: 3,306 Community Moderator
    Potentially stupid question but I have to ask, are you guys sure you're just not missing it in the menu? Also what had you tried restarting your game and such? I'm sure you guys have but I still have to ask. Are you guys sure you're a high enough level to craft it. Believe it gives it to you anyways but could swear they said you had to be 10 in engineering to actually craft. Also can you guys post what toons are missing the recipe that should have it? such as below:

    toon name, captain type, captain faction.

    If I were to do it on one of my toons it would be
    Kurimo'Rex, tactical vanguard Jem'hadar, federation alligned Jem'hadar.

    Depending on what you guys tell me about your crafting levels and such will depend on whether myself or one of my cohorts moves this to the bug reporting area.
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  • alcyoneserene
    alcyoneserene Member Posts: 2,412 Arc User
    Too many toons to go through and verify, but there's no set pattern I observed (ex. Roms vs Feds vs KDF).

    Restart does not help. I tried it on my 2nd oldest toon, a Fed Bajoran Sci, didn't receive it, tried the next day (with obvious game restart), didn't receive it still.

    All those toons I took it though are Max R&D (Lvl 20 on all).

    On those that received the recipe, it pops up instantly in the R&D Engineering as soon as clicking the final dialogue pop up.
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  • jennycolvin
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    gaevsman wrote: »
    Guys, you have to do all the missios that Franklin Drake gives you, then you can do Alhena and others, like the Donatu Sattelites and the S'himar

    Not true. You unlock it by completing "Skirmish", there's no need to do all the missione Drake gives you.

    Question: I know the reward and the ones you can pick up from the tanks are BtC, but what about the crafted ones?
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  • bossheisenberg
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    It finally worked for me on the third try. The only thing I did differently was play the mission much more slowly - I did not even activate powers when I killed the cardassians. Maybe they fixed the bug or I just had to do it slow enough to actually register that the mission was done, who knows.
  • markhawkman
    markhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    It finally worked for me on the third try. The only thing I did differently was play the mission much more slowly - I did not even activate powers when I killed the cardassians. Maybe they fixed the bug or I just had to do it slow enough to actually register that the mission was done, who knows.
    I noticed a direct link between whether I saw a Deuterium in the mission rewards or not. It looks to me like you get one or the other. So if he offers to give you Deut he's NOT going to give a recipe.
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    It finally worked for me on the third try. The only thing I did differently was play the mission much more slowly - I did not even activate powers when I killed the cardassians. Maybe they fixed the bug or I just had to do it slow enough to actually register that the mission was done, who knows.
    I noticed a direct link between whether I saw a Deuterium in the mission rewards or not. It looks to me like you get one or the other. So if he offers to give you Deut he's NOT going to give a recipe.

    What recipe? I didn't get any recipe, I just opened R&D and the deuterium was already there for crafting.
  • markhawkman
    markhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    It finally worked for me on the third try. The only thing I did differently was play the mission much more slowly - I did not even activate powers when I killed the cardassians. Maybe they fixed the bug or I just had to do it slow enough to actually register that the mission was done, who knows.
    I noticed a direct link between whether I saw a Deuterium in the mission rewards or not. It looks to me like you get one or the other. So if he offers to give you Deut he's NOT going to give a recipe.
    What recipe? I didn't get any recipe, I just opened R&D and the deuterium was already there for crafting.
    It's not a real item yeah. But in all my plays of it if I got a Deuterium as a quest reward I didn't get the recipe unlocked.
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  • alcyoneserene
    alcyoneserene Member Posts: 2,412 Arc User
    Yep, one of my characters (Fed Tac delta recruit) who didn't get it unlocked yesterday did today. I just stayed away from the tanks so the pick up deuterium doesn't show up at the end. Was also thinking of doing the mission slower, but my intel dread just blew everything up real fast anyways, so no clue what to do yet to avoid the bug.
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  • gaevsman
    gaevsman Member Posts: 3,181 Arc User
    edited September 2019
    gaevsman wrote: »
    Guys, you have to do all the missios that Franklin Drake gives you, then you can do Alhena and others, like the Donatu Sattelites and the S'himar

    Not true. You unlock it by completing "Skirmish", there's no need to do all the missione Drake gives you.

    Question: I know the reward and the ones you can pick up from the tanks are BtC, but what about the crafted ones?

    Odd, because all those missions didn't unloked on my newest chars until i finish them all..
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  • sthe91
    sthe91 Member Posts: 4,059 Arc User
    edited September 2019
    Should this thread be in PC Gameplay Bug Reports? If it should @baddmoonrizin @darkbladejk please do the honors. Thanks. :)
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  • jennycolvin
    jennycolvin Member Posts: 1,099 Arc User
    edited September 2019
    gaevsman wrote: »
    gaevsman wrote: »
    Guys, you have to do all the missios that Franklin Drake gives you, then you can do Alhena and others, like the Donatu Sattelites and the S'himar

    Not true. You unlock it by completing "Skirmish", there's no need to do all the missione Drake gives you.

    Question: I know the reward and the ones you can pick up from the tanks are BtC, but what about the crafted ones?

    Odd, because all those missions didn't unloked on my newest chars until i finish them all..
    I assure you, you only need to do "Skirmish". I had a bunch of characters that didn't have the Alhena mission unlocked that I worked on when they announced the Deuterium schematic for R&D. Did nothing more than "Skirmish".

    As for the crafting itself, @darkbladejk: I managed to unlock it on one toon - Aryss, orion, kdf, tactical - it requires level 0 and 75 skills. I crafted it with no problem with Engineering School at level 3.
    So, being a level 0 schematic, it should appear immediately when you unlock it, without the need to choose "Show all tasks" from the filters dropdown menu.

    The one toon that would benefit more from having the schematic, though, seems to be out of luck:
    T'Banu, TOS (NOT a temporal agent), tactical.​​
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