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Temporal Recruit Re-Run / ISS Stadi Admiralty Card --> Fenix Price Pack
eristhevorta
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Hello there!
I'd like to see the "Temporal Recruit" event being re-run anytime soon, because the "Delta Recruit" has already had a re-run and we recently had a new "Gamma Recruit" event. I've missed out on the original TR event, and I'd really like to get the chance to have my set gear on alt toons at a standard MK 13 Ultra-Rare handout when crafted instead of MK 12 Very Rare.
Also, it's been over two years since the I.S.S. Stadi Admiralty Card has been introduced in the Mirror Event. Could that card please make it's way to the next update of the Fenix Price Pack? The V.S.S. Tanius is a beast card, and I'd love to get the Stadi as well, I missed out on her back then.
~ Meow
I'd like to see the "Temporal Recruit" event being re-run anytime soon, because the "Delta Recruit" has already had a re-run and we recently had a new "Gamma Recruit" event. I've missed out on the original TR event, and I'd really like to get the chance to have my set gear on alt toons at a standard MK 13 Ultra-Rare handout when crafted instead of MK 12 Very Rare.
Also, it's been over two years since the I.S.S. Stadi Admiralty Card has been introduced in the Mirror Event. Could that card please make it's way to the next update of the Fenix Price Pack? The V.S.S. Tanius is a beast card, and I'd love to get the Stadi as well, I missed out on her back then.
~ Meow
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Original Join Date: January 30th, 2010
Original Join Date: January 30th, 2010
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Original Join Date: January 30th, 2010
They should let those that missed it get another shot at it.
If they reran temporal on a similar schedule, it would be end of summer next year before we hit the 3 year mark.
Personally, I'm in favor of an exclusivity period to reward long-term players. Just like players who were around for the Gamma recruitment should be rewarded with an exclusivity period for being here and supporting the game.
Sorry, that's what I meant. Changed my post.
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Original Join Date: January 30th, 2010
I have no problem with that Exclusivity period for recruitment events, however the ISS Stadi was from before the account unlock rewards, and some of us didn't run that particular event on ALL our characters. Some of the rewards from BEFORE the Stadi are already in the Phoenix Box.
The Stadi is an Admiralty Card only.. it should only be a rare token which is very easy to obtain.
My character Tsin'xing
But yea... Stadi would be easier to get.
IMO, people who enjoy other people's misfortune don't deserve to be rewarded for it.
Bah.
They didn't update Delta Recruit to support TOSlings either.
IMO, we seem to have woefully different definitions of what constitutes a "misfortune."
Deciding not to play an online game that has been available for eight years is hardly a misfortune, but an active choice in how to spend one's time, money, and other resources. It is not enjoying "other people's misfortune" to think that players who've been supporting the game for years should enjoy the benefits of that support.
You'll not, that I didn't say that they should have exclusivity in perpetuity, merely an exclusivity period. Now, whether that should be two years, three years, or one year is a reasonable issue to discuss - one in which I would gladly engage.
However, an emotional appeal on the morality of enjoying other people's "misfortune" is neither a rational nor logical basis for discussion. This is not a moral question - no one is going to die, have their rights curtailed, or be imprisoned because they didn't get to have the Temporal Recruitment rewards. Let's get a sense of proportionality on this.
"Exclusivity" like that is why people stop joining old games. Because they know they'll never have the full experience.
Your point that exclusivity has the possibility of reducing the number of new players joining is a very valid point.
However, whether you personally see it as a benefit, unique or hard to get items in MMOs and games in general are usually highly sought by players. It is a benefit - whether it's a weapon that improves gameplay or purely cosmetic.
So, among other considerations, the loss of potential new players vs. the loss of value (uniqueness) for older players (that might ultimately lead to attrition or diminishment) must be balanced. A healthy game requires both segments.
While I would argue that making the recruitment event always available is not justifiable as it would wholly ignore the older player base, a shorter window than three years is also probably a better choice. Also remember, there's Delta, Temporal, Gamma - so far. With all the other annual events and activities, there is also a pragmatic calendaring issue that would limit running events, assuming each major expansion will bring with it another recruitment event (though Disco was somewhat a non-issue).
He's not advocating for a one and done thing like most of the larger MMOs did. STO is already very forgiving in giving us ways to get things that were missed.
And since they've been making all the rewards unlocks rather than single-item drops, you can't even get spares anymore.
For all intents and purposes the Recruit events are always available. The only time-limited bit is creating a character., everything after that is up in perpetuity.
And there isn't no calendaring issue. It is possible to run multiple events concurrently, and I know several games that even run many events all the time. The main hurdle with adding more Recruit events is preventing the abuse of the stacking account currency rewards for players that have completed multiple events.
Personally, I'd have limited the special tasks (probes and whatnot) and claiming the rewards to the event period, too. Obviously the generic tasks like leveling stuff and doing the missions and whatnot would be completable at any time, but the rewards would still have to wait if the event isn't up. Then arrange a "regularly irregular" schedule of reruns so players know they'll come back, but with unpredictable intervals to hold their attention. Kinda like the bonus weekends do now.
This would also have mitigated the effect of stacking account rewards, as players couldn't instantly claim a bazillion dil/marks on every new toon, but would have to wait for each of the events.
Age of Discovery is not an expansion, it is a season update.
> I honestly thought the AOD characters would be Temporal agents. Needless to say I was quite disappointed when the brief Daniels cut scene ended and..... NOTHING.
> Bah.
Daniels is no fool.....theres a reason no-one from TOS on talks about the EsTeeDee era.
Problem. The Temporal and Gamma Recruits had LONG TERM goals as well, such as admiralty, DOff, R&D, Reps, and I think spec points spent.
Limiting those as well would basically mean if you don't get it quickly, you're locked down on your progress. And with the spec points... if it ONLY counts those spent during the event... if you just happen to fill the trees outside of the event, you're locked out until they add more spec trees AND run a rerun event.
Frankly, the way they handled it was just fine because we could progress at our own pace. We don't have to marathon run it to squeeze into the event time period. There's no way in hell I'd be able to get some of that in only a few weeks, and I've got LOTS of time on my hands.
As a practical matter, I'm not sure how what you are suggesting by limiting the special tasks and claiming the rewards during a set event period differs significantly from anything I've actually said.
You go on to say "Then arrange a "regularly irregular" schedule of reruns so players know they'll come back, but with unpredictable intervals to hold their attention. Kinda like the bonus weekends do now." How is that different from what I suggested that the recruitment event be rerun more often than three years, but not available year round?
I suggested that they need to balance the desire of older players to feel like they've been rewarded for long-term support, so they should be given a period of exclusivity on the recruitment event rewards. I then suggested that three years is probably too long a period for that exclusivity - thus affirmatively saying the events should be run more frequently.
I agree with rattler2 - you and I are just going back and forth. While I've conceded you made a few valid points, since you don't seem to view any of the points I've made as valid (while proposing what amounts to the same thing), I don't see where we're going to reach common ground.