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pryor
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I recently purchased https://sto.gamepedia.com/Qul'poH_Temporal_Science_Vessel
It's nimble and has an exceptional turn rate, It doesn't have a Cloak so I will be concentrating on Stealth and Placates and Speed to keep it fighting.
Of course I will need maxed out Tactical & Science Readiness to keep the Placates & Torpedo Spread rolling.
As of now I am thinking Klingon Honor Guard / MACO 3 Piece set for Torpedo power and Stealth clicky alongside
https://sto.gamepedia.com/Obfuscated_Strategist_Set 2 piece for added Stealth
Crafted RCS/stealth Engineering console
But what to put in the 5 open Science Consoles?
The only thing I can think of is Crafted Epic Steath Modules, if there is other gear that is better please let me know ..... and where to get it.
Weapons forward:
Crafted Transphasic Torpedo [Pen] ( spread when shields are UP )
Breen Transphasic Cluster Torp
Particle Emissions Plasma Torp [Pen] ( spread when shields are DOWN )
Weapons aft:
Omni Directional Tetryon Support Beam (part of 2 piece Obfuscated set) ( USED WITH SUBSYSTEM TARGETING 20% chance will knock system offline )
#5 open
#6 open
Basically my goal is in PvP to quickly fly in, hit them as they are unable to target me, exit range then reenter without being targeted to hit them with another spread.
Any suggestions & changes please post below....
It's nimble and has an exceptional turn rate, It doesn't have a Cloak so I will be concentrating on Stealth and Placates and Speed to keep it fighting.
Of course I will need maxed out Tactical & Science Readiness to keep the Placates & Torpedo Spread rolling.
As of now I am thinking Klingon Honor Guard / MACO 3 Piece set for Torpedo power and Stealth clicky alongside
https://sto.gamepedia.com/Obfuscated_Strategist_Set 2 piece for added Stealth
Crafted RCS/stealth Engineering console
But what to put in the 5 open Science Consoles?
The only thing I can think of is Crafted Epic Steath Modules, if there is other gear that is better please let me know ..... and where to get it.
Weapons forward:
Crafted Transphasic Torpedo [Pen] ( spread when shields are UP )
Breen Transphasic Cluster Torp
Particle Emissions Plasma Torp [Pen] ( spread when shields are DOWN )
Weapons aft:
Omni Directional Tetryon Support Beam (part of 2 piece Obfuscated set) ( USED WITH SUBSYSTEM TARGETING 20% chance will knock system offline )
#5 open
#6 open
Basically my goal is in PvP to quickly fly in, hit them as they are unable to target me, exit range then reenter without being targeted to hit them with another spread.
Any suggestions & changes please post below....
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While I am a fan of clusters the rest of the Transphasic weapons are pretty much a waste. Since the new level cap they scale really bad and massively underperform compared to everything else.
Same for stealth is doesn’t really do anything, it won’t really help you survive or do anything useful in my experience. So you are focusing on two of the weakest aspects of the game. You should be able to get the idea up to a useable level. I just wanted you to be aware it will underperform compared to average setups.
The Placates part should work, it’s the stealth and Transphasic part I am not so sure about.
Sorry. Just checked the torp has. 100% chance to by pass shields. The set powers only increase the proc to 50%
2.) Intel has some of the Evilist untargatable things...
3.) The Krenim Torp is a Transphasic torp..
Rouge Sto Wiki Editor.
I think last time I looked it was something like Photon and Quantum did around x3 more damage per hit so even with less shield pen then Transphasic you get more damage bleed though. You can also look up Reverberation trait which makes all torpedoes and mines disable shields.
For your placates look at Pseudo-submission trait.
Also on an EPG build that Particle Emissions Plasma Torp will do more damage to hull when shields are up then Transphasic. That should be the main spread choice if shields are up or down over Transphasic. Given its a sci ship I would try a Grav torpedo along the Particle Emissions Plasma Torpedo. It should do the same job as the Transphasic but Synergise better with the rest of your ship. As you buff your sci power you also buff the grav and Emissions torp.
Chroniton in name, but transphasic in performance.
@pryor#5476
I'm not sure if it is possible at this time to build a viable build around stealth, transphasic and placeate.
You may pawn some newbies, but anyone with a little experience in PVP knows how to get rid of those debuffs in no time at all.
I fly a counter cloak Nebula with MES and Transphasics in Kerrat from time to time and it is VERY rare for me NOT to detect a cloaked vessel within 20Km. Most cloaked vessels i spot between 30-40Km away.
Since cloaked vessels tend to have little investment in detection i can usually drop some surprises on them and force them out of cloak.
That said, my Nebby is usually not the one who makes the kill but merely the one who creates the circumstances for the kill.
As others have mentioned, there are other torpedoes which hit through shields harder. Your best bet is probably going for small stuns and disables through photonic, scramble, jam, charged and viral but with the immunity against stun/placate/disable it is not a reliable method.
Again, it may work against newbies but once you're in the sights of anyone experienced then you're toast.
In my current build I use Reverberation only and none of the other shield pen bits. But then again I mix mines with torpedoes so it triggers constantly.
Yea... kinda.
https://sto.gamepedia.com/Amarie-class_Smuggler's_Heavy_Escort
Comes off that ship.
Hehe... gotta love being a Snooper. If I could get my fleetmate to comment, he'd probably be able to tell how to make a real nice Scryer Snooper.
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Yeah that sounds about in line with what I've seen in game too. What I meant to say was that it proc'ing relies on you actually shooting torps that hit a target, so unless you are doing that a lot it could seem unreliable.
The tooltip says a 10% chance to apply per stack (max 10 stacks) so i'd assume that means after 3 torps hit you have 3x10% chances and so on. After 10 hits you have 10x10% chances. Now i'm not sure quite how Cryptic maths works in this instance. Does that mean you get a 100% proc chance at 10 hits (because they stack up to 100%)? Or do you just get 10 x 10% chances at the proc, because there is a chance it won't activate all the time.
Honestly it's out of my league trying to work this stuff out, so i always assume that anything proc or % based is not guaranteed in this game.
I'd say the most important way to get the best from the trait is to ensure you are constantly spitting out torps, and that means that torp cooldowns is a big part of maximizing its use. It's great having shield pen or shield bypassing goodies on a build, but you've gotta shoot enough projectiles to take advantage of those mechanics.
Among others. I should test the snooper build with the scryer cause intel shenanigans and build in cloak, but i haven't gotten around to it.
T5U Nebby is pretty good though.. T6 Nebby with temporal shenanigans could also work.
Rouge Sto Wiki Editor.
Remember that stealth is relative. The Daemosh is loud enough to receive warning without snooper setup.
Heck, your ears are probably the best defense against successful alpha strikes against you.
The mine set I use with a modulating competition mine gives 4700 stealth outside combat and auto cloaks when not moving.
Last night doing Romulan patrols i noticed i had stacks of it saved up and so when i went after a DD in one patrol a single torp put its shields off so i could effectively insta-vape it with a HY torp seconds later.
I always figured it stacked on the enemy ship and so was lost once the ship went boom. Always helps to read the small print!
True, but the Daemosh is particularly infamous because of it.
Excellent suggestion
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