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Phoenix Box: May 2018 - Discussion

humblesheephumblesheep Member Posts: 423 Arc User
Never tried it before, but heard they were good for UGs, but if you're looking for a nice ship, I'd not suggest this trying this particular rout.
Results (for me):
Epic: 0
UR 0
VR: 33
R: 104
U: 218
So that's 1 1/2 Mil Dil, not a ship in sight, so glad I wasn't in need of one.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,669 Community Moderator
    On the bright side... that will definately push ALL your gear to mk XIV.
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  • humblesheephumblesheep Member Posts: 423 Arc User
    Twas the plan! - 15 toons all @ XIV, preparing for XV. Still; TRIBBLE metrics if your looking for anything more than that, out of the packs. Wish Cryptic had to publish actual stats - gambling in the dark - sucks.
  • ussvaliant#6064 ussvaliant Member Posts: 1,006 Arc User
    Yes absolutely terrible drop rates for the UR and Epic tokens. I thought the Phoenix packs were supposed to be a second chance at obtaining past/missed event ships ?.

    The horrific drop rates make it near impossible to obtain them. I only missed 2 the T5 Breen Frigate and the Risan Luxury Cruiser by choice and am not to fussed about getting them, but anyone else who does has to open thousands of these things with no guarantee of success.

    There's no reason for such poor rates as these ships aren't exactly top of the line, must have ships. The event ships were free for a 14 day grind. So someone missed it or decided not to play. I don't have an issue with them being able to pick um up for these boxes, exclusivity and denying others is not my m.o.

    Hell they should even throw in the GPL T6 D'kora at Epic which I got a few years back for those not loyal enough to have been on the mailing list.

    They need to up the drop rates or introduce a lower token to high token conversion system.





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  • widlast#3003 widlast Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    About 45 boxes bought or gotten from daily and I got 1 Ultra Rare. That is between the last time it was up and so far through this time.
  • tomgonjinn23tomgonjinn23 Member Posts: 204 Arc User
    Never tried it before, but heard they were good for UGs, but if you're looking for a nice ship, I'd not suggest this trying this particular rout.
    Results (for me):
    Epic: 0
    UR 0
    VR: 33
    R: 104
    U: 218
    So that's 1 1/2 Mil Dil, not a ship in sight, so glad I wasn't in need of one.

    Yeah Phoenix Packs are very finicky. Last time I spent 2 million dilithium and I only got 1 ultra rare token. This time around I only had my 500 zen stipend and was able to get 32 packs with it.
    My tenth pack was a Epic token.
    They odds are just really stupid and annoying however they are still worth it for the upgrades which are by far the best in the game.
  • bloodyrizbloodyriz Member Posts: 1,756 Arc User
    I have yet to buy a phoenix pack, I just take the free ones during the events, and I have scored 2 epics.​​
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  • alcyoneserenealcyoneserene Member Posts: 2,414 Arc User
    bloodyriz wrote: »
    I have yet to buy a phoenix pack, I just take the free ones during the events, and I have scored 2 epics.​​

    Play the real life lottery with that kind of luck!

    I used up millions of Dil (since winning 2x UR for the Risian ships) and I know at least 2 others who used up even more and never won a single UR or Epic. That T5U JHAS will remain out of reach behind some drop rate that I speculate to be lower than lockboxes even.

    Its contents have not even been updated for a very long while now.
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  • postinggumpostinggum Member Posts: 1,117 Arc User
    The 1.5 tech points upgrades are fairly cheap for the ec rich, so with the upgrade weekend your phoenix upgrades give 150k+ of points, which often makes hitting 14 take one less phoenix upgrade.
  • smooshy#7462 smooshy Member Posts: 233 Arc User
    The best way to get a ship from the Phoenix packs is to sell your dilithium during the event and then either buy a ship from the C-store or buy keys to sell on the Exchange for a ship on the Exchange.
  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    The best way to get a ship from the Phoenix packs is to sell your dilithium during the event and then either buy a ship from the C-store or buy keys to sell on the Exchange for a ship on the Exchange.

    Problem is, the Phoenix pack ships are old event ships that cannot be traded on the exchange. If someone wants an older event ship they pretty much have no choice but to open boxes and pray to the goods of RnG for some luck.
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  • smooshy#7462 smooshy Member Posts: 233 Arc User
    The best way to get a ship from the Phoenix packs is to sell your dilithium during the event and then either buy a ship from the C-store or buy keys to sell on the Exchange for a ship on the Exchange.

    Problem is, the Phoenix pack ships are old event ships that cannot be traded on the exchange. If someone wants an older event ship they pretty much have no choice but to open boxes and pray to the goods of RnG for some luck.

    True. Although the old ship I might want (Nandi) isn't available on the PS4 Phoenix for some reason. There's a picture of it on the event icon, sure, but the ship itself isn't on the list. If it were, I might actually spend some dilithium and roll the bones.
  • locutusofcactuslocutusofcactus Member Posts: 651 Arc User
    You are Worf. Meanwhile, a noob (Data) opens and wins epic from the free daily pack.

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  • xyquarzexyquarze Member Posts: 2,120 Arc User
    There was a thread when Phoenix first came out where people added numbers, and yes, while "very rare" is indeed very common, UR and Epic have way below 1% drop rate. Unfortunately there are no drop rates on the wiki as they were with lockboxes.
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  • nimbullnimbull Member Posts: 1,564 Arc User
    They seemed to be sticking to the uncommon tokens more this time around.
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,689 Arc User
    nimbull wrote: »
    They seemed to be sticking to the uncommon tokens more this time around.

    Not for me -- I'm getting the usual 1/3 - 1/2 better than UR rate, same as always.

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  • saedeithsaedeith Member Posts: 628 Arc User
    nimbull wrote: »
    They seemed to be sticking to the uncommon tokens more this time around.

    Hmm. Been getting a lot of rares. 1 VR. Very few uncommons.

  • gjohnny1990gjohnny1990 Member Posts: 116 Arc User
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  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,918 Arc User
    edited May 2018
    I've been getting a fair mix of VR, R, and U myself from the free packs. During a previous one, I did score one Epic token and immediately got her a Nandi with it. If I ever score another, I'll get the Dorito ship
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  • postagepaidpostagepaid Member Posts: 2,899 Arc User
    My results from the free boxes across two accounts have so far been 1 purple, couple of blue and the rest greens.

    Best result so far has been that the 3k zen for their elite starter packs has been regained.

    Until upgrading becomes a thing that's actually needed due to gameplay I don't see much point in burning dilithium on the boxes.
  • xyquarzexyquarze Member Posts: 2,120 Arc User
    My results from the free boxes across two accounts have so far been 1 purple, couple of blue and the rest greens.

    Best result so far has been that the 3k zen for their elite starter packs has been regained.

    Until upgrading becomes a thing that's actually needed due to gameplay I don't see much point in burning dilithium on the boxes.

    When you're not upgrading, sure.

    If you're doing it, however:

    Uncommon is already an improvement (albeit small) on the dil spent.
    Rare is 2 uncommons, Very Rare is 4, so you're basically quadrupling up.

    Also, as long as you're not vying for the ships but for other goodies on toons who missed them, you got a good chance.

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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,689 Arc User
    Yes, even Uncommon / green is as good as 4,300 dil worth of Superior tech upgrades plus it costs no mats or credits.
  • grumpyowl#1151 grumpyowl Member Posts: 96 Arc User
    I'm banking my upgrades for the next upgrade weekend. I've EASILY opened over 800 Phoenix boxes since they began. I've gotten 3 UR in that time but not a single Epic.
  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    Never tried it before, but heard they were good for UGs, but if you're looking for a nice ship, I'd not suggest this trying this particular rout.
    Results (for me):
    Epic: 0
    UR 0
    VR: 33
    R: 104
    U: 218
    So that's 1 1/2 Mil Dil, not a ship in sight, so glad I wasn't in need of one.

    more or less what i got when i sunk 1.8m dil into it when it first came.
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  • sovereign010sovereign010 Member Posts: 641 Arc User
    echatty wrote: »
    I've been getting a fair mix of VR, R, and U myself from the free packs. During a previous one, I did score one Epic token and immediately got her a Nandi with it. If I ever score another, I'll get the Dorito ship
    Did they bring out a ship shaped like an isosceles triangle then? :p

    In total I must have opened at least 3,000 packs and got half a dozen URs and two Epics, so from that the odds are 1 in 5,00 and 1 in 1,500, respectively. Since I was fortunate enough to already have all the T6 ships there's nothing to spend the epics on and they're far too rare to simply downgrade. And getting access to the bug ship is about 3-4 years too late! :D
  • madmoparmadmopar Member Posts: 234 Arc User
    I opened 1 pack on tribble last night and got an epic token. I guess this means I can forget getting in the real game.
  • veeger#9876 veeger Member Posts: 52 Arc User
    They need to up the drop rates or introduce a lower token to high token conversion system.

    The lower token to high token idea would be a good "bad luck protection" mechanism is my opinion.
  • doctorstegidoctorstegi Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    Will the box rewards ever get updated? There is quiet a few ships and other stuff what could be going in there which were from previous events.
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  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,507 Arc User
    Whenever they get round to it, yes. For some mysterious reason, they seem to be busy doing other things :lol: But there is not much that is 'missing'.
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