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  • ichaerus1ichaerus1 Member Posts: 986 Arc User
    warpangel wrote: »
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    ichaerus1 wrote: »
    Me? I would've ashed both races, and taken the village and territory as mine, or put both races to the lash after conquering the land and holding for myself. Have them separated, and in sweet factory sweatshops so that I can sell the candy to people. Or pass it out to kids. :smiley:
    Yeah, real mature. You do understand you're talking about Space Magic Disneyland, there, right?

    What does maturity have to do with it? Is a wish or ambition for conquest and/or razing a reflection of how "mature" someone is? What about genocide or slavery? Or economic gain, built upon the labors of others, to merchandise goods to populations and other youths? Go on, enlighten us all on how your standard of maturity is the "gold standard," for this.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,588 Community Moderator
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    Because Q.

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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • caltaircaltair Member Posts: 135 Arc User
    ichaerus1 wrote: »
    We most certainly can allow them to be executed. That's the beauty of having free will. Making the choice that what happens in Gingerbread Village, is not necessarily our concern, not our business. Hopping in, to negotiate, or ensure the villagers aren't exterminated, sounds like something that the Federation just loves to do. Intrude. Come to think about it....Do the gingerbread villagers have warp travel technology? No? Then why are you breaking the Prime Directive, if you're blueside?

    Anyone can claim territory. Might makes right, in that if you can hold and defend it on your own, then it's yours. If you enter another person's territory, and squat, then be prepared to defend your invasion through force. If you're too weak to hold it, then you have no claim to it.

    With regards to the 2nd paragraph, it appears you're trying to justify assumptions and presumptions, so that you have an excuse to come to the aid of the Gingerbread Village. The Borg Snowmen =/= the Snowmen found on the lake and around the surrounding area, same with the ones in the village =/= the Borg Snowmen. Not saying that it's right or wrong to do that. Just that it's happened.
    Me? I would've ashed both races, and taken the village and territory as mine, or put both races to the lash after conquering the land and holding for myself. Have them separated, and in sweet factory sweatshops so that I can sell the candy to people. Or pass it out to kids. :smiley:

    Assuming your serious and not just trolling our emotions to egg on the morally minded Starfleet officers.... that is the mentality of a Drecc. In a cut throat morality dependent on "Kill, or be Killed" then your idea works, but let's be honest - "Might makes right" isn't really a morality, it's the absence of one.
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  • oslo5oslo5 Member Posts: 16 Arc User
    Let's face it: You folks are allllll wrong.
    The original inhabitants of the planet, who built the gazebo and the snowman factory, first created the gingerbreads because they wanted to create life. But the gingerbreads were flawed so the Ancients disbursed nanites into the atmosphere which fell into the snow; the most abundant resource.
    Every 30 minutes and automatically regulated by the factory, the nannies activate and reorient themselves to form snowmen which are designed to exterminate the gingerbreads. But as we all know, gingerbread is near indestructible and the snowmen couldn't do more that injure them mildly. So the Ancients stepped up their game and made the Snow Borg. They ultimately proved to be more troublesome that the first two races, so the Ancients just left for a new home. With no one to turn the factory off, the war continues and the gingerbreads only survive by baking more and the fact that snowmen can only maintain cohesion for 10 minutes or so. So none of the groups are the original or natural inhabitants of the planet, but we can grant the gingerbreads some credit as they have progressed their civilization to an industrialized society with appointed officials. The snowmen have nothing but crude weapons and in general have no desire to do anything but destroy.

    It's fun to make a big deal out of nothing. That's why it comes up every year. And if nothing else, you can exercise your bs-ing muscle.
  • usskentuckyusskentucky Member Posts: 402 Arc User
    Pretty soon the snow tribes will be forcibly relocated onto the reservation set aside for them on Nimbus III and the moral questionability of slaughtering them for attacking our ginger colonies will be moot. Did you know gingerbread is one of like five elements federation replicators can’t make? Let that sink in. Now do you see why we side with them around Christmas time each year?
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
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    Because Q.
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    No, no no... That's all wrong....

    It's because Q.
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    Asked and answered many times in the past.

    The Nuremberg Defense of 'I vas only following orders' didn't work then and won't work now. They still hung.
    'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
    Judge Dan Haywood
    'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
    l don't know.
    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
    Lt. Philip J. Minns
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    ltminns wrote: »
    Asked and answered many times in the past.

    The Nuremberg Defense of 'I vas only following orders' didn't work then and won't work now. They still hung.
    Yeah, but since the Snowmen are figments of Q's imagination, that doesn't really apply. :p
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