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AFK Punishment - Prone for abuse?

Just got slapped with an AFK punishment even though I wasn't actually AFK. Now I can't queue for anything or get rewards for nearly two hours.

Is this a thing imposed by the game or the players? Because if it's in the hands of the players then it's just going to be abused.

For example, I could be finishing writing something in an open tab when the alert begins, meaning I could start 10-30 seconds later than the rest of the team. They could just assume I am AFK and slap this punishment on me or another player doing the same, punishing me for an imagined crime. See how easy that is to abuse?

"It is better that ten innocent people be convicted than one guilty man go free."

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  • tom61stotom61sto Member Posts: 3,676 Arc User
    It's an automated system. It means you did less than 10% the total damage of your team. You ether spent too much time typing in a fast queue, your loadout doesn't do damage well, or someone really high end was there and sucked up a huge portion of the damage possible.

    Work on your build (see Qtuhulu's guides linked on the main page) and get in there and fight, you can type while fighting.
  • tilartatilarta Member Posts: 1,801 Arc User
    I had been assuming it was players just misusing a report system.
    That if enough of them decide you were being AFK or that they just don't like you, they organise an AFK report to inflict punishment.

    A few times this week while attending the HoloArena queue, I've been having connection issues, which was responsible for delayed starts, the occasional disconnect and repeated SNRs.
    Fortunately, none of those resulted in a AFK flagging/report, but it could have done so if someone took object to my diminished activity.

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  • aspartan1aspartan1 Member Posts: 1,054 Arc User
    That position is clearly not accurate... I got it as well on a toon and I did damage on 2 cubes as well as two spheres and fought the pickle from start to finish and still got the penalty. I made a post about it a couple months ago. Additionally, I also got it doing CCA as a top player for the real slap in the face but that was a long time ago...
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  • aspartan1aspartan1 Member Posts: 1,054 Arc User
    No doubt...

    For that toon which got the AFK my quick look at the combat showed over 100k in damage and of course I was amazed it was not 1% and on the CCA run I had a constant stream of hurt pouring on it with two other crazy high DPS peeps and it popped. The point being it is funky sometimes and any attempt at getting the issue resolved is met with negativity and no response or a response that says "we dont keep such records sorry..." when the system could be changed to a more equatable one.

    I would rather 100 AFK people get away with doing so than 10 people actively doing what they can to contribute to the success of a run get slapped with it. Essentially the system is clearly failing to match players of similar [DPS] ability which is the entire merit of you position.

    Shoot at a bare minimum they should change the name to 'DPS Penalty' because that is essentially what it is; especially if they dont want to change the system.
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  • aspartan1aspartan1 Member Posts: 1,054 Arc User
    It was over 100k in damage showing on my screen. With that said I did not parse the entire log. I was seeing maybe 30% of it I guess. The ship was not a 100k one; I think it was 40k (burst) range ...
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  • e30erneste30ernest Member Posts: 1,794 Arc User
    I don't think CCA gives an AFK penalty. I've SNR'd at the start several times before and haven't even been able to leave the start area as a result and I've never gotten an AFK there. The last time this happened to me was sometime shortly after the launch of S13.5. Not sure if that has changed since.
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  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    edited September 2017
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    I have gotten first in cca with zero damage done.

    Yeah, in CCA you can pop a team wide heal (I assume that counts towards 1st place, cause it's real easy to get first in a Sci-ship with a couple healer consoles). Toss in a GW3 w/ a Torp Spread then a AoE shield healer traited Tachyon Beam and you should be good! ;)

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  • baudlbaudl Member Posts: 4,060 Arc User
    quite frankly, the threshold should even be higher. You shouldn't be in that PUBLIC queue if you are not contributing. Getting a slap on the hand is more than a fair warning that tells you: YOU ARE NOT PREPARED!
    It would be a way to tell people that they still need to work on their gear and do missions with worthwhile rewards. Having collected that with a half way comprehensive build, anybody should be able to contribute.
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  • renards90renards90 Member Posts: 38 Arc User
    Me When the pve did not enter i only did go to bathroom and when i comme back well i be punished for not playing so
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  • arionisaarionisa Member Posts: 1,421 Arc User
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    renards90 wrote: »
    Me When the pve did not enter i only did go to bathroom and when i comme back well i be punished for not playing so

    1) necromancy is bad...m'kay.

    2) Wut?!?

    3) It sounds like you are complaining that you went to the bathroom, the queue popped and ended while you were in the bathroom and you got the AFK penalty. Like seriously?!? You LITERALLY was AFK if this is the case. This isn't even an issue of a false positive.

    This one is towards the top of my list for funniest STO posts. Someone complaining that they got an AFK penalty for actually being AFK.

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  • tom61stotom61sto Member Posts: 3,676 Arc User
    arionisa wrote: »
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    renards90 wrote: »
    Me When the pve did not enter i only did go to bathroom and when i comme back well i be punished for not playing so

    1) necromancy is bad...m'kay.

    2) Wut?!?

    3) It sounds like you are complaining that you went to the bathroom, the queue popped and ended while you were in the bathroom and you got the AFK penalty. Like seriously?!? You LITERALLY was AFK if this is the case. This isn't even an issue of a false positive.

    This one is towards the top of my list for funniest STO posts. Someone complaining that they got an AFK penalty for actually being AFK.

    Do note that under the older queue interface, this user would've just been dropped from the queue pending at 30 seconds, and that's after it sounded that the queue was ready. Under this new queue system it occasionally drops you into the queue with no warning, even if it's been sitting for awhile.
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