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  • lordsteve1lordsteve1 Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    T5 lockbox ships are all getting t6 versions

    The flip side is the remaining t5 ships are all so cheap they are practically free.

    This is very true.
    You can pick up a Wells, or S'golth etc for almost 50M EC these days, and all it's missing from the final T6 version is a single boff ability and a trait.
    So that's a bargain when you think about it. 50M for a T5-U ship or 200-300M+ for a T6 version with some minor changes?

    I know if it was for alts (or even a main toon for that matter) which ones i'd be going with.
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  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,897 Community Moderator
    ltminns wrote: »
    Problem is they are specifically Replacing those T5s with updated T6s. Same they are doing for the Lobi Store. This is what they said they were going to do.

    Having both versions in the would eventually make the plethora of ships in the Infinity or Lobi Store unwieldy. Having too many means more choices that then reduces supplies of most ships, making them more expensive on the Exchange once the Ferengi get their hands on them.

    I get what you're saying. Still, some folks might still want those T5 ships anyway. I don't have a problem with the ships being updated to T6, I just don't like seeing the T5s removed entirely.
    would love to see the mirror skins for romulan ships unlocked for their t6 versions

    but I think the day of new t5s is done

    I'd love to see them add Mirror Skins and Prefixes for ALL ships as a costume unlock in the C-Store, since it seems we're not going to get any new Mirror Ships.
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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    I'd love to see them add Mirror Skins and Prefixes for ALL ships as a costume unlock in the C-Store, since it seems we're not going to get any new Mirror Ships.

    yeah thatd be awesome, even if they tied it to owning an existing mirror vessel to get the unlock... they could just do like a quick check of admiralty ships owned or something.
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  • gaevsmangaevsman Member Posts: 3,190 Arc User
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    I'd love to see them add Mirror Skins and Prefixes for ALL ships as a costume unlock in the C-Store, since it seems we're not going to get any new Mirror Ships.

    yeah thatd be awesome, even if they tied it to owning an existing mirror vessel to get the unlock... they could just do like a quick check of admiralty ships owned or something.

    Odd, i have the t6 versions of the Kara, T'Varo and Mogai, and i'm using the mirror skin on all of them, so i dont see the problem here.. you do have to have the mirror versions in the drydock thou..
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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    bergins wrote: »
    OK, what happens if I open an old Jem Hadar lockbox and get really lucky? Will I now get a T6 ship, or still the T5? What about the "consolation ship" box?

    Feels like there might be a breakdown in the logic of all this somewhere...
    Dominion lockboxes themselves are very much limited supply now.
    ltminns wrote: »
    Problem is they are specifically Replacing those T5s with updated T6s. Same they are doing for the Lobi Store. This is what they said they were going to do.

    Having both versions in the would eventually make the plethora of ships in the Infinity or Lobi Store unwieldy. Having too many means more choices that then reduces supplies of most ships, making them more expensive on the Exchange once the Ferengi get their hands on them.
    The T5 infbox ships are in a different reward category than the T6's, so they could never appear in the same choice anyway.

    It would be trivial to also place a separate category in the lobi store for the old ships.
  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
    gaevsman wrote: »
    I'd love to see them add Mirror Skins and Prefixes for ALL ships as a costume unlock in the C-Store, since it seems we're not going to get any new Mirror Ships.

    yeah thatd be awesome, even if they tied it to owning an existing mirror vessel to get the unlock... they could just do like a quick check of admiralty ships owned or something.

    Odd, i have the t6 versions of the Kara, T'Varo and Mogai, and i'm using the mirror skin on all of them, so i dont see the problem here.. you do have to have the mirror versions in the drydock thou..

    Not all ships have T5 Mirror variants though, so there are many ships that do not have access to the mirror skins. That's why I made the suggestion to create new Mirror lockbox T5s, no they wouldn't be very useful on their own but they would offer you additional customization for the T6 versions. This wouldn't have to be limited to the mirror skin either, they could do something like this to unlock the avenger or TOS skins on other ships as well.
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  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,897 Community Moderator
    gaevsman wrote: »
    I'd love to see them add Mirror Skins and Prefixes for ALL ships as a costume unlock in the C-Store, since it seems we're not going to get any new Mirror Ships.

    yeah thatd be awesome, even if they tied it to owning an existing mirror vessel to get the unlock... they could just do like a quick check of admiralty ships owned or something.

    Odd, i have the t6 versions of the Kara, T'Varo and Mogai, and i'm using the mirror skin on all of them, so i dont see the problem here.. you do have to have the mirror versions in the drydock thou..

    Except not all ships have playable Mirror versions. So, for example, I can't put a Mirror skin on my T6 Odyssey since we don't have a Mirror version to unlock the skin and prefix. Plus, the Terran Mirror Ships now use the red markings that we don't have access to at all, except on the Mirror Guardian and Runabout, if you were lucky enough to get them.
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  • gaevsmangaevsman Member Posts: 3,190 Arc User
    gaevsman wrote: »
    I'd love to see them add Mirror Skins and Prefixes for ALL ships as a costume unlock in the C-Store, since it seems we're not going to get any new Mirror Ships.

    yeah thatd be awesome, even if they tied it to owning an existing mirror vessel to get the unlock... they could just do like a quick check of admiralty ships owned or something.

    Odd, i have the t6 versions of the Kara, T'Varo and Mogai, and i'm using the mirror skin on all of them, so i dont see the problem here.. you do have to have the mirror versions in the drydock thou..

    Except not all ships have playable Mirror versions. So, for example, I can't put a Mirror skin on my T6 Odyssey since we don't have a Mirror version to unlock the skin and prefix. Plus, the Terran Mirror Ships now use the red markings that we don't have access to at all, except on the Mirror Guardian and Runabout, if you were lucky enough to get them.

    Ahh!, ok, now i get it, true, it would de nice some additional mirror skins, feds, romulan and klingon. :smile:
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  • boachevboachev Member Posts: 131 Arc User
    ltminns wrote: »
    Problem is they are specifically Replacing those T5s with updated T6s. Same they are doing for the Lobi Store. This is what they said they were going to do.

    Having both versions in the would eventually make the plethora of ships in the Infinity or Lobi Store unwieldy. Having too many means more choices that then reduces supplies of most ships, making them more expensive on the Exchange once the Ferengi get their hands on them.
    And what about the Admiralty Cards that come with those ships? We're out those, too, if the T5s are removed.

    So, what you're saying is... I need to get off my TRIBBLE and get the T5 Apex ASAP while I still can for a non-ridiculous price? So then I'll one day have four Hirogen vessels (once they both get their T6) along with four Admiralty cards?

  • reaperclubreaperclub Member Posts: 28 Arc User
    azrael605 wrote: »
    So pick out a ship that IS in the pack which sells for those crazy prices & sell it then you can buy the Jem ship & lose nothing. I get all my lockbox ships with EC nowadays, much much cheaper than opening lockboxes & hoping to get lucky.

    I get what you're saying, I'm just really upset that they removed ships from the pack. Especially since I thought they were going to add ships to the pack.
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    Replace ships.

    re·place
    rəˈplās/
    verb
    1. take the place of.

    2. put (something) back in a previous place or position.
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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    ltminns wrote: »
    Replace ships.

    re·place
    rəˈplās/
    verb
    1. take the place of.

    2. put (something) back in a previous place or position.
    Well if you want to argue semantics, the new ships don't actually take the place of the old ones in the [Infinity Prize Pack - T5 Ship].
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    I knew that was coming. But if their end game is to do away with [Infinity Prize Pack - T5 Ship] completely then this all makes perfect sense.
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  • nikeixnikeix Member Posts: 3,972 Arc User
    ltminns wrote: »
    I knew that was coming. But if their end game is to do away with [Infinity Prize Pack - T5 Ship] completely then this all makes perfect sense.

    At what point did you ever imagine any other endgame? THat's the OBVIOUS point of this exercise.

  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    Of course it is, but many here are complaining about the T5s being removed with the T6 replacements. That is what this is all about. Rhetorical statement.
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  • jade1280jade1280 Member Posts: 868 Arc User
    I was happy to get one but then again i got it just before i got the T6 pack as well...so i have nothing to complain about :3
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