100k+ DPS reliable PUG Hybrid build

sharxtreme · January 2017

This is a hybrid build that uses energy, torpedo, exotic and drain damage and it is consistent in doing 100k+ DPS in ISA PUG and around 90k (so far) in DPS Mark Advanced.
It uses mostly episode, rep and fleet gear and it is relatively cheap and easy to build.

Video is bit longer with 2 full ISA runs, 1 DPS mark run and full build show.

Enjoy the video. Would like to hear ideas for improvement.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1K9-xWU-_E

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meimeitoo · January 2017

sharxtreme wrote: »

This is a hybrid build that uses energy, torpedo, exotic and drain damage and it is consistent in doing 100k+ DPS in ISA PUG and around 90k (so far) in DPS Mark Advanced.
It uses mostly episode, rep and fleet gear and it is relatively cheap and easy to build.

Your video editing skills are impressive.

Very styllish vid.

As for the 100k DPS, you realize it's not your build, right?! It's the pilot. I've flown builds posted by sarcasmdetector et al., and did miserable in them (that's because I suck at this game *g*).

peterconnorfirst · January 2017

Wow nice video and cool endeavor.

Such stuff should be pointed to out everyone who cries pay to win and powercreep kills the game.

You have demonstrated effectively that everybody who really wants to play STO also can play STO.

e30ernest · January 2017

Nice build! That's a novel way to do things. It's a good video too though I prefer things to be more simple and direct to the point. Good job!

kilroyishere · January 2017

wonder how long it would take for me to burn you down
kilroy

meimeitoo · January 2017

kilroyishere wrote: »

wonder how long it would take for me to burn you down
kilroy

Is that PvP smack talk or something? Always funny to witness.

Anyway, I don't think the OP was really fitting for PvP.

sharxtreme · January 2017

Thanx guys, i'm glad you find the video fun or build helpful,
shame people are just too quick to press thumbs down on youtube that i am reminded why i have stopped making them, and i loe making them whe i have the time.

sharxtreme · January 2017

coldnapalm wrote: »

Yes...but you are using beams...now do that with cannons.

I have such build on Romulan toon, although it's not tuned for ISA but for CCA and other PvE.

@meimeitoo
Yes, piloting helps, but I think this build has options left even in human error scenario, as i have demonstrated

meimeitoo · January 2017

sharxtreme wrote: »

coldnapalm wrote: »

Yes...but you are using beams...now do that with cannons.

I have such build on Romulan toon, although it's not tuned for ISA but for CCA and other PvE.

@meimeitoo
Yes, piloting helps, but I think this build has options left even in human error scenario, as i have demonstrated

Like e30ernest said, it's quite an interesting build.

I shall study it some more.

Anyay, loved the vid! And don't be discouraged by jerks on the Internet voting it down.

seaofsorrows · January 2017

Interesting build.. well done. Thumbs up!

sharxtreme · January 2017

seaofsorrows wrote: »

Interesting build.. well done. Thumbs up!

thank you very much. Hope it is helpful. Will try to improve it even more in funcionality.
ideas are welcome.

hanover2 · January 2017

I smell temporal cheese. :l

sharxtreme · January 2017

hanover2 wrote: »

I smell temporal cheese. :l

temporal cheese? on temporal build? impossible.
best to just put straight FAW, torp, FBP or cannon build and it will be ok?

nikeix · January 2017

Its rainbow, but its also FAR from budget. Was gonna cry fowl on the Dephic Tear console till I went and priced them on the exchange... and then bought FOUR of them for 5 million. There's really no excuse no to have one of those on every exotic damage/black magic ship in the game. They're ridiculously good (+20% exotic damage;+5% crit magnitude; a huge radiation damage and resistance penetration cone effect that hits like a BEAST on any exotic damage ship...). I think they're overlooked only because they were missed in the Sphere Builder lockbox blog...

Enjoyed the video (some great cuts and fades!), but "I put 12 out of 12 of the strongest exotic damage tools in the game on one ship and ooo, look, it works" shouldn't really come as a surprise

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e30ernest · January 2017

Flew with you on HSE just now. Great job!

sharxtreme · January 2017

e30ernest wrote: »

Flew with you on HSE just now. Great job!

yeah, not my highest HSE result, but it was great run for team.

@nikeix
the build is budget as far as consoles, weapons and space set goes. you can get it all very cheap or from episodes. Only expensive thing is 2 ZEN temporal ships for consoles and traits(SCI AND Dread), raider is not needed.
And i could have gone and concentrated this build for FBP and threat to get more DPS but i decided to hybrid it for multipurpose and fun factor(it is fun to fly it, IMO)

Also, it is not a surprise that build such as this can function good, but i made the video after some arguments on how you do only FAW,or only Exotic to get to 30, 50, 100K etc. and with only one way to do it and with expensive weapons. Just wanted to show there is many more ways to do that.

tacticalrook · January 2017

This isn't really a build us casual, "we play for fun", folks can normally put together on a whim. Considering the amount of space cash it takes to get the two T6 c-store ship traits, the lobi ship trait, not to mention the huge amount of grind time needed to get all those spec points, this build seems anything but "relatively cheap".

As silly as it sounds, these sorts of things (especially time) aren't exactly cheap to us lowly spacepoors.

nikeix · January 2017

sharxtreme wrote: »

the build is budget as far as consoles, weapons and space set goes. you can get it all very cheap or from episodes. Only expensive thing is 2 ZEN temporal ships for consoles and traits(SCI AND Dread), raider is not needed.
And i could have gone and concentrated this build for FBP and threat to get more DPS but i decided to hybrid it for multipurpose and fun factor(it is fun to fly it, IMO)

Not knocking it. Just initially thought it was aiming to be a little bit more accessible

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The 31c Temporal ship pack is still THE number one bargain in the Zeni store in my eyes (followed by the cross faction battle cruiser pack). A couple of your weapons are various lock box flavors, but they're easily replaced. The consoles are mostly modest - I think people simply don't know where the big passive exotic damage bonuses are found (constriction anchor... really?). The lobi console (or 2?) are probably a little big ticket for some but again it's nice to increase awareness of the tools. A temporal agent captain and some of the goodies those unlock is also a hit and miss proposition for newer players.

I bet its a ton of fun to fly

. I have something similar built on two of my high end science boats. The tear console is just intensely satisfying -- click: you may ALL DIE NOW!

seaofsorrows · January 2017

tacticalrook wrote: »

This isn't really a build us casual, "we play for fun", folks can normally put together when considering the amount of space cash it takes to get the two T6 c-store ship traits, the lobi ship trait, not to mention the huge amount of grind time needed to get all those spec points.

As silly as it sounds, these sorts of things (especially time) aren't exactly cheap to us spacepoors. The last thing I'd call this is "relatively cheap".

I don't know, when they released the Phoenix Box not too long ago, it drove the Dilithium Exchange down to the lowest point it had been in a while. I cashed in a bunch of dilithium and got 7k Zen out of the deal.

A couple weeks later they did the holiday sale and I ended up getting the Cross Faction Temporal 3 pack, The T6 Yamato, a Fleet Module, and a couple keys all without spending a dime.

It should also be noted that all this dilithum was easily amassed by just causal play as I have been kind of burned out lately and hardly playing. The bulk of the Dilithium I cashed in was from little more then just DoFF missions, Admiralty, and the occasional red alert. It may take patience and good timing, but anything in this game can be obtained for free.

tacticalrook · January 2017

seaofsorrows wrote: »

I don't know, when they released the Phoenix Box not too long ago, it drove the Dilithium Exchange down to the lowest point it had been in a while. I cashed in a bunch of dilithium and got 7k Zen out of the deal.

A couple weeks later they did the holiday sale and I ended up getting the Cross Faction Temporal 3 pack, The T6 Yamato, a Fleet Module, and a couple keys all without spending a dime.

It should also be noted that all this dilithum was easily amassed by just causal play as I have been kind of burned out lately and hardly playing. The bulk of the Dilithium I cashed in was from little more then just DoFF missions, Admiralty, and the occasional red alert. It may take patience and good timing, but anything in this game can be obtained for free.

I wasn't saying it couldn't be done, just that it isn't "relatively cheap". While it may not be much to folks who are space rich, it usually takes a considerable amount of time for us casuals to put together that kind of space cash. Spending a year's worth of savings on something like this is kind of a big deal.

sharxtreme · January 2017

tacticalrook wrote: »

This isn't really a build us casual, "we play for fun", folks can normally put together on a whim. Considering the amount of space cash it takes to get the two T6 c-store ship traits, the lobi ship trait, not to mention the huge amount of grind time needed to get all those spec points, this build seems anything but "relatively cheap".

As silly as it sounds, these sorts of things (especially time) aren't exactly cheap to us lowly spacepoors.

you could get full 3par temporal pack just week ago for 4800zen, since i build this ship there were 2 promotions like this, and supremacy trait is not needed for this to work. That's "I use it, because i have it" type of deal.
Also weapons from exchange i have could be anything else, all of them were bought for maybe 3million total and upgraded with free upgrades from admiralty system.

But, yeah full specializations need time, also, i must say that while having full specs is nice, they are not a deciding factor.
Also one thing to mention is that i don't use special, expensive, doffs or boffs and have 1 embassy romulan tac.

lsegn · January 2017

You aren't exactly the best spokesperson for the poor and forgotten of this game @tacticalrook

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lsegn · January 2017

Very interesting! Personally id dump the iconain 2-piece for the Dyson or possibly the romulan if you wanted more control or EPG. But thats just me nitpicking.

sharxtreme · January 2017

coldnapalm wrote: »

sharxtreme wrote: »

coldnapalm wrote: »

Yes...but you are using beams...now do that with cannons.

I have such build on Romulan toon, although it's not tuned for ISA but for CCA and other PvE.

Okay...fine...do that using a mix of cannons and beams and torps AND mines then. HA.

its no problem. 4 weapon slots can be exchanged easily.

sharxtreme · January 2017

lsegn wrote: »

Very interesting! Personally id dump the iconain 2-piece for the Dyson or possibly the romulan if you wanted more control or EPG. But thats just me nitpicking.

I dropped iconian warp core for fleet one and i use iconian shield for survivability, terran 2 part for drain

tobiashirt · January 2017

meimeitoo wrote: »

sharxtreme wrote: »

This is a hybrid build that uses energy, torpedo, exotic and drain damage and it is consistent in doing 100k+ DPS in ISA PUG and around 90k (so far) in DPS Mark Advanced.
It uses mostly episode, rep and fleet gear and it is relatively cheap and easy to build.

Your video editing skills are impressive. Very styllish vid.

As for the 100k DPS, you realize it's not your build, right?! It's the pilot. I've flown builds posted by sarcasmdetector et al., and did miserable in them (that's because I suck at this game *g*).

That and being a tac captain

But, in all seriousness, the build looks like it fulfills the goal of having several fallback layers of abilities to fill gaps. The striking thing for me, or at least the first one to stand out, was the use of the disruptor omni and vaadpol dbb that are not part of a set, although I grant that they could be there for the proc effects. Possibly the omni could turn into the Nausicaan beam and the embassy or lab consoles could tun into the set console for the bonus.

The other thing I see (and this would be my personal pref, rather than 'it must be done as such') is that the temporal powers have only 1 'builder' in the form of recursive shearing, meaning that the other abilities don't reach their peak effectiveness unless used after it. Since causal reversion is a good, quick c/d heal that serves as a reliable trigger for the Chronos's trait, I might go with chronometric inversion field 2 in the Lt. Com. slot, since it will also help slow and control stuff, the DoT is reasonably powerful, and it builds good amounts of entropy on multiple tagets.

tl:dr It's a good build for the Chronos pilot wanting to do exotic damage supplemented by conventional weapons, and would be worth putting together as a starting point if you own the ship.

meimeitoo · January 2017

sharxtreme wrote: »

lsegn wrote: »

Very interesting! Personally id dump the iconain 2-piece for the Dyson or possibly the romulan if you wanted more control or EPG. But thats just me nitpicking.

I dropped iconian warp core for fleet one and i use iconian shield for survivability, terran 2 part for drain

Close to what I'm using: 3-piece Terran (=very good bonus) + Iconian Shield, as the self-cleansing of the latter is just unbeatable.

Why a Fleet core, though?! Or do you mean a Spire Core? (Also kind of a Fleet Core, come to think of it).

tobiashirt · January 2017

peterconnorfirst wrote: »

Wow nice video and cool endeavor.

Such stuff should be pointed to out everyone who cries pay to win and powercreep kills the game.

You have demonstrated effectively that everybody who really wants to play STO also can play STO.

If they can buy the Chronos, put together the ec for that expensive herald beam, etc...it's moderately cheap, more toward the edge of "budget" when factoring in the time and resources to finish reps/grind marks/amass the dil for the rep items and upgrade them to UV if you don't have the perk from a temporal agent toon.

tobiashirt · January 2017

nikeix wrote: »

...Enjoyed the video (some great cuts and fades!), but "I put 12 out of 12 of the strongest exotic damage tools in the game on one ship and ooo, look, it works" shouldn't really come as a surprise ...

100k+ DPS reliable PUG Hybrid build

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