No Marquis Raider yet?

kylethetrue · January 2017

It occured to me that the Maquis Raider is not yet in STO. I'm somewhat surprised as it's a pretty cool ship.

nikeix · January 2017

Looks like it'd make a good frigate hangar pet, But seems a little out of place as anything above T2.

So really, we just need a Maquis Carrier to put them in

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kylethetrue · January 2017

I really don't think they are any smaller than Klingon beards of Prey....

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geekysoldier · January 2017

I could see that working as a Fed raider, looks like it would be fun.

lordsteve1 · January 2017

Yeah that'd be a nice raider style ship.
Or allowing it to be used as frigate pets for carriers perhaps.

wylonus · January 2017

Marquis were wiped out during Dominion War, along with "Thomas Riker". many had died.
many hideouts were hit by Orbital Bombarments to make sure they have nothing left to rebuilt the ships, some survivors joined Bajora as they joined Federation.
all they had now was relief supply to revive the farms and some tech for doctors, they are still decades away to have thier own fleet.

officerbatman81 · January 2017

I thought that's what peregrine fighters were.

baddmoonrizin · January 2017

Would make for an excellent cross faction Pilot ship.

artan42 · January 2017

It's not a Starfleet ship.

saurializard · January 2017

artan42 wrote: »

It's not a Starfleet ship.

Actually, it's most likely an older, retired Federation ship, maybe officially replaced by the Peregrine, like how the USS Franklin was replaced by the NX but still used afterwards, since the Maquis was born from Federation colonists.

lordsteve1 · January 2017

its pretty obvious it was a fed ship at some point, based purely on the model. The engines are almost a copy of the Pergrine fighter, but on a bigger scale.
It was probably a close range escort or frigate, perhaps only designed for short range system patrols or smaller journeys. Since been replaced by better starfleet vessels like the Rapier or other true escorts.

Come to think of it starfleet probably has a tonne of these sorts of ships we never see in the shows or films, not everything has to be a fully fledged starship. I'd bet there's loads of small short range patrol vessels or support craft that we've never seen because they are considered boring. And there'll be a wealth of civilian vessels as well from hundreds of planets or civilian manufacturing companies.

feiqa · January 2017

I think that is the thing. It became the peregrine fighter. So no need to include it. Or they are waiting to make the cardassians a minor faction and include the maquis as opponents and thus it would be a lock box ship like the Kazon raider.

rattler2 · January 2017

According to Memory Alpha, the Maquis Raider type itself was an old Fed design from about the 2330s.
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Maquis_raider

There was a similar designed ship called a Maquis Fighter, which some confuse for the Peregrine since both Starfleet AND the Maquis actually used the Peregrine.
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Maquis_fighter
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Federation_attack_fighter

meimeitoo · January 2017

kylethetrue wrote: »

It occured to me that the Maquis Raider is not yet in STO. I'm somewhat surprised as it's a pretty cool ship.

Looks a bit like a LEGO ship to me. :P Or, friendlier, a BSG Raptor... kinda.

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kylethetrue · January 2017

officerbatman81 wrote: »

I thought that's what peregrine fighters were.

Maquis used Peregrine fighters a lot. This one is something different.

feiqa wrote: »

I think that is the thing. It became the peregrine fighter. So no need to include it. Or they are waiting to make the cardassians a minor faction and include the maquis as opponents and thus it would be a lock box ship like the Kazon raider.

Peregrine fighters actually predated this ship in the show I think. But they were used side by side within maquis ranks.

nikephorus · January 2017

It was my understanding that the maquis raider was simply a peregrine fighter.

kylethetrue · January 2017

nikephorus wrote: »

It was my understanding that the maquis raider was simply a peregrine fighter.

Easy mistake to make because they do look similar but Maquis raiders were larger ships with over 20 crew.

artan42 · January 2017

In addition to not being a Starfleet ship (I never said not Federation) it's also not a single ship. There's two versions of the raider, one roughly runabout sized and one with a bridge modal instead of a window and so on.

Both versions are much larger than a Peregrine (which is apparently a courier retrofitted into a fighter) but still far too small for a frigate being much smaller than Starfleeet's shortest starship, The Raven.

nickcastleton · January 2017

since we cant have larger ships for fed hangers like the klings get BOP they would make for good hanger pets IMO

kylethetrue · January 2017

nickcastleton wrote: »

since we cant have larger ships for fed hangers like the klings get BOP they would make for good hanger pets IMO

Actually these Maquis Raiders are slightly larger than a Klingon Beards of Prey. If you look them up on Memory Alpha they have a crew of 24 compared to the BOP with 13.

salazarraze · January 2017

kylethetrue wrote: »

It occured to me that the Maquis Raider is not yet in STO. I'm somewhat surprised as it's a pretty cool ship.

Not yet. And hopefully never.

theanothername · January 2017

Marquis fighter? Marquis carrier? Sure, why not. Along side of the Marquis Cruiser and Marquis Escort all build at the traditional Marquis shipyards orbiting their ancient homeworld Marq...

Thats a Peregine with a different skin. Marquis where an militant anti Cardassia movement loosely based on the real french WW2 Marquis. They (ST Marquis) used what they get their hand on; that mostly stolen shuttles (not the real deal; they tried to steal the Ent-D afaik) & hand held weapons from their fallen enemies. Their last reason to exists ceased at the latest with the end of the dominion war.

edit: ok, than not a Peregine fighter but a kitbash based on it. In line with the Marquis lore we have we can still expect it to be something like a re-worked civilian yacht, trash-transporter or similar underwhelming and not something they developed and constructed by themselves.

edit2: By all means, that does not mean I'm against that ship itself in STO. Its a ship from ST canon so it has its place. But it should not be all of the sudden a Marquis 2.0 reawakened Super-BoP but rather some funboat.

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saurializard · January 2017

nabreeki wrote: »

Absolutely not. NO terrorist ships in STO, please.

Then, we should also remove at least Na'kuhl ships, Sphere Builder ships, Elachi ships, Breen ships and Tal Shiar Adapted ships, to be consistent.

After all, the only Na'kuhl and Sphere Builders who use those ships are temporal terrorists, the Elachi strike Romulan colonies with surprise terror attacks, the Breen enslave the Deferi and launched a suicide attack on Earth, and the Tal Shiar are experimenting with biotechnological viruses.

nightken · January 2017

it should probably should be kept for if they decide to to a marauder/raiding spec since normally feds shouldn't have ships designed for that sort of thing but *insert plot* causing them to update old maquis ships, so they can keep the big stuff at home would be reasonable.

I personally would love to invade the mirrior universe.

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thay8472 · January 2017

And the Cardassian ships, we can't be to sure now if they're under the influence of the True Way or not.

nikephorus · January 2017

@kylethetrue yeah you're right now that I think of it. I remember the ship that got pulled into the delta quadrant with Voyager had a sizable crew.

No Marquis Raider yet?

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