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stoplayer1#1919 stoplayer1 Member Posts: 57 Arc User
How much CANON is the STO game?

{#-=How much CANON is STO game?=-#} 52 votes

as much canon as the movies and TV shows
34%
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as much canon as the star trek ninja turtles toys (google it)
13%
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the STO game is not canon at all
51%
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  • officerbatman81officerbatman81 Member Posts: 2,761 Arc User
    the STO game is not canon at all
    I made a mistake by voting in a poll, can i rescind please? I thought it was legit until i saw ninja turtles. I should have known better.
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    2/5's.

    17.6%.

    Half a smidge.

    About a groats worth.

    Four kilos and 6 pounds.

    Some of all of it.​​
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    Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
    JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.

    #TASforSTO


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  • cidjackcidjack Member Posts: 2,017 Arc User
    the STO game is not canon at all
    1.) Does it matter on the percentage of Canon in the game?
    2.)Does it break your enjoyment of Star Trek due that percentage of Canon?
    3.) Why are you trolling the STO player base?
    4.) Why bring up Canon again on the forums?
    5.) Why, in the name that is holy, a poll?
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    I made a mistake by voting in a poll, can i rescind please? I thought it was legit until i saw ninja turtles. I should have known better.

    the poll is legit and the star trek ninja turtles are a real thing santioned by CBS or paramount

    But not canon.​​
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    Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
    JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.

    #TASforSTO


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    'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
    'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
    '...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
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    '...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek

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  • xyquarzexyquarze Member Posts: 2,120 Arc User
    artan42 wrote: »
    2/5's.

    17.6%.

    Half a smidge.

    About a groats worth.

    Four kilos and 6 pounds.

    Some of all of it.​​

    ^That. Give or take 10%
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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    the STO game is not canon at all
    I think the ninja turtle toys might be slightly more canon :P
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
  • ikonn#1068 ikonn Member Posts: 1,450 Arc User
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    artan42 wrote: »
    I made a mistake by voting in a poll, can i rescind please? I thought it was legit until i saw ninja turtles. I should have known better.

    the poll is legit and the star trek ninja turtles are a real thing santioned by CBS or paramount

    But not canon.​​

    some people say anything officially santioned by CBS or paramount is canon. that is what some peopel say about this game. So im asking how much canon is STO in comparison to those other things.

    And they would also be wrong. The licence is to produce official Star Trek material not for said material to be canon. That is reserved for the films and TV series alone.

    STO is licenced but not canon.
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    Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
    JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.

    #TASforSTO


    '...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
    'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
    'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
    '...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
    'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
    '...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek

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  • carcosa#4225 carcosa Member Posts: 161 Arc User
    as much canon as the movies and TV shows
    I would honestly say it's about exactly as much canon as the novels. Like the novels, it's fully licensed and approved by the IP holders and later creators are legally free to use concepts and elements of it for later screen works. However, also like the novels, it isn't binding on later screen works the way earlier screen works are. Thus, it's a form of secondary canon rather like the old Star Wars Extended Universe used to be.

    Right now? This is the only canon we have that is current and being updated and built on in any real way. If you're a Trek fan looking to engage with Trek content that isn't aging film and screen material, it's this or pretty much nothing considering that the reboot films aren't canon to the Prime timeline at all.​​

    I agree that it is as much canon as the novels, and would have selected that. STO is created by the official makers of Star Trek (Paramount?) so I would have to say the story arcs are official cannon to some degree
  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    edited December 2016
    as much canon as the movies and TV shows
    As is my custom, I voted against the slant in a biased poll. One "It's Canon" choice, one "It's Not Canon" choice and one sarcastic "Not Canon"? So, I voted that it is Canon, but...
    some people say anything officially santioned by CBS or paramount is canon. that is what some peopel say about this game.
    ...I am not one of "those people." In fact, it should be pointed out that there are people who think the moon is made of cheese, it does not make it so.
    So im asking how much canon is STO in comparison to those other things.
    You didn't ask it in a way to get any kind of real answer.

    Oh, and why, oh why is there this sudden need for ASCII decorations in thread titles?
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  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    as much canon as the movies and TV shows
    star trek / green lantern!

    https://www.idwpublishing.com/product/star-trekgreen-lantern-the-spectrum-war/

    also star trek / planet of the apes!

    https://www.idwpublishing.com/product/star-trekplanet-of-the-apes-the-primate-directive/

    im so glad STO game is as canon as these awesome stories!

    I have nothing positive to say about that.
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    The STO Universe is as canon as the Prime Universe, Novel Universe, and the Kelvin Universe since Star Trek supports the Many Worlds Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics. As far as importance goes, the Prime Universe is the most important followed by the Kelvin Universe with the STO Universe and Novel Universe trailing behind the Kelvin Universe.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,559 Community Moderator
    STO is as canon as most of the other games that have been made.
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,657 Arc User
    Most people use beams, so maybe 10%?

    ;)
  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,005 Arc User
    edited December 2016
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    ^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
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  • unclegoldieunclegoldie Member Posts: 263 Arc User
    STO is as canon as "Spock's Brain" and Star Trek V but not as canon as "Pigs In Space."
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  • jade1280jade1280 Member Posts: 868 Arc User
    as much canon as the movies and TV shows
    Who paid CBC for stuff lol
  • staq16staq16 Member Posts: 1,181 Arc User
    OP, I have to ask why there is no option for "as canon as the novels or comics".

    Like Pocket Books' novels, or IDW's comics, STO presents an internally coherent storyline which expands on the "core" canon presented in the shows and films. These differ from the above-mentioned novelty one shots (such as the one where Spock beats down on Wolverine...) in that they offer an extended storyline.

    Also like those other sources, they don't bind future series.

  • wendysue53wendysue53 Member Posts: 1,569 Arc User
    as much canon as the movies and TV shows
    Well...

    It said "Star Trek" on the cover when I bought it...

    = o.o =
  • wendysue53wendysue53 Member Posts: 1,569 Arc User
    edited December 2016
    as much canon as the movies and TV shows
    staq16 wrote: »
    OP, I have to ask why there is no option for "as canon as the novels or comics".

    Like Pocket Books' novels, or IDW's comics, STO presents an internally coherent storyline which expands on the "core" canon presented in the shows and films. These differ from the above-mentioned novelty one shots (such as the one where Spock beats down on Wolverine...) in that they offer an extended storyline.

    Also like those other sources, they don't bind future series.

    Wolverine can take a hit (indestructible skelly + heal powers)
    Spock can give a hit (strength of what? over 10 men for a Vulcan?)
    so, yeah. Can see Spock knocking the crud out of Wolvie. But can see Wolverine just keep coming back for more.
    :)

    (FYI: new wolverine movie coming out in 2017. Deals with the 'end of all mutants'. Has girl wolverine in it, and Wolverine looks a hell of a lot like the Weapon-X automation from the Wolverine Saga comics.)
  • wendysue53wendysue53 Member Posts: 1,569 Arc User
    as much canon as the movies and TV shows
    Don't slap me for this, but since I brought it up, here's the trailer.

    Movie is called "Logan"

  • thelunarboythelunarboy Member Posts: 412 Arc User
    For me it is at best as canon as the Kelvin Timeline. Should anything onscreen take place in the Prime universe at a time equivalent to STO, it can be argued that anything in books or gameplay occurs in a timeline parallel to the Prime universe.

    So for me it lies somewhere between proper canon and "turtle canon".
  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,005 Arc User
    STO is as canon as "Spock's Brain" and Star Trek V but not as canon as "Pigs In Space."

    That's hard canon. Every work of Star Trek is bound to it.​​
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    ^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
    "No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
    "A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
    "That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    As canon as CBS wants it to be. Which is probably not very.
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