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Breen Absolute Zero set: Who hates it? Who loves it?
djf021
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Reason I ask is I have a character who is totally devoted to trying out all event ships, and all reputation/episode sets. I'm getting him prepared to fly the Chel Boalg Warship in 2-3 weeks. I've been hitting the Wonderland pretty hard, and have the Exothermic Induction Beam manual ready to go. Then I noticed the Cryo-plasma infused warp core. I've never used that core before, nor the rest of the set from the Breen arc, and thought it might be fun to try, since it goes with the Breen theme. Now I'm about halfway through saving the winter currencies needed for the warp core.
I realize this may not be anyone's favorite set, but my question is: Does anyone think I should never get it? Or is it just as usable as all other sets in reasonably capable hands, playing PVE?
Hopefully that makes sense. I'm just wondering if anyone has any particularly TERRIBLE things to say about it, before I spend more time saving for the core or playing through the Breen episodes again to get the set.
My proposed build
Thanks!
I realize this may not be anyone's favorite set, but my question is: Does anyone think I should never get it? Or is it just as usable as all other sets in reasonably capable hands, playing PVE?
Hopefully that makes sense. I'm just wondering if anyone has any particularly TERRIBLE things to say about it, before I spend more time saving for the core or playing through the Breen episodes again to get the set.
My proposed build
Thanks!
Don't let them promote you. Don't let them transfer you. Don't let them do anything that takes you off the bridge of that ship, because while you're there... you can make a difference.
-Captain James T. Kirk
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And, if nothing else, it's a really easy set to put together. Hardest part is the limited time window to acquire the warp core/singularity since you can only get it during the Winter Event. Which is happening right now, so... go get it!
Thing is, you get that breen set fairly early on compared to other mission reward sets, and it's really not bad at all.
The core itself is actually quite nice even standalone.
Nice drain capabilities in combination with other sets/weapons.
I say you should get it, and enjoy the cold theme.
Even with these "negative" points to the set, it is possible to create a viable build from them. The set does offer the Breen Energy Siphon and the Eject Cryo-plasma abilities, which means that your ship would have to lean towards a drain build and also have a good turn rate. You will be relying on superb piloting skills as well as your BOFFs abilities and traits to keep your ship alive as well as do effect damage to your target.
Though some may argue not to, you may consider using the 4 Breen consoles on your ship in addition to the Breen Absolute Zero set. Those consoles do provide additional damage, damage resistance, and placate, which may help improve your DPS and ability to stay alive. Again, like the space set, the consoles provide limited help. Tactics is truly what makes the Breen set and consoles work optimally.
Breen use Polaron and Transphasic weapons. Though Polaron weapons would be ideal in a drain build, I would suggest taking advantage of the Resonant set from the Blood of the Ancients episode, which uses Disruptor and Transphasic weapons. Your Breen set gives a boosts to Transphasic torpedoes; the Resonant set also provides that boost. The Transphasic torpedo from that set is far superior to other Transphasic torpedoes in the game. If you can afford it, you will want to use Disruptors with [Pen]. If you are set on drain weapons, you will want to use Polarized Disruptors. Otherwise, any Disruptor weapon will do.
As far as PvE goes, the Breen Absolute Zeros is doable; just don't expect to vape or destroy your enemies so quickly.
We are talking about one of the first sets in the game. Of course it won't be uber awesome.
Correct, but did we not have all the massive changes not too long ago from the Skillboxes? The changes were so extensive that it reached practically every bit of equipment, abilities, etc. The set could have been altered to be useful for itself but it didn't.
Don't let them promote you. Don't let them transfer you. Don't let them do anything that takes you off the bridge of that ship, because while you're there... you can make a difference.
-Captain James T. Kirk
"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
LOL you can just disable visuals.
"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
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The sound irritates me more than the visuals, do I have to turn off my speakers too?
Polaron disruptors + resonant preserver set for me. No idea, why Breen use polarons in sto. They should use type 3 disruptors. Just as Romulans should, but ... STO is only Star Trek themed and doestn't really care about such details.
Of course if you're new to collecting Breen ships and don't have the T5 consoles and didn't get the carrier when it was available, you may be out of luck. I can see where the sets might not work as well on other ship classes.
for a "free" set, it's better than the junk that comes with a ship... but your better off using rep/fleet gear once you can save up for em.
I should mention that i am not a fan of antiproton which i find unimaginative and the visuals repulsive.
Having said that, anitproton also does not fit in with a drain build.
Personally i would replace the AP with the resonant set and the nausican set (both of which are mission rewards.
Grab some of these to fill out the weapon slots:
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Polarized_Disruptor_Beam_Array
I read that and got really sad... my Captain is really built for drain/control, and for a "secondary" ship to TRIBBLE around with I plan to have a Voth Bulwark with a sorta-RPish build. In "canon", the Voth use antiproton weaponry.
HOWEVER, upon closer inspection the specific Voth antiproton weapons have the effect of lowering the damage output of your enemy rather than the "bleh" modifier of regular antiproton weapons. I think I don't like it was much as the Polarized Disruptors, but it looks acceptable in terms of synergy with a drain build (not to mention on the Bulwark, which is already all kinds of survivable). Considering I'm not trying to milk every little decimal for the maximum possible DPS, that's good enough for me.
RP aside, unless something has changed recently, Voth AP was considered to be the absolute worst weapon type in the game bar none.
We're not discussing the ship, but the 4-piece breen set.
The winter reward breen ships tend to have really good stats and boff layout. Only the visuals are an ongoing debate between fans and haters.
Would like to hear other people's experience with the Absolute Zero and Breen console set build.