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Now that the T6 Intel Assault Cruiser is out.....

How is it? I haven't got it yet. Is it worth switching from the Endeavour Class to it?

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  • asardetemplariasardetemplari Member Posts: 447 Arc User
    Sorry to bump an "old" thread, but no one seems to have answered your question.


    Opinions may vary, but comparing the Endeavour to the basic Archon-class, I'm going to have to say no. HOWEVER, compared to the Fleet Archon Assault Cruiser, I'd say yes, it is worth the switch based on the fact that you get an Intel slot which gives you access to Override Subsystem Safeties, which is nice if you're running a BFAW build and Plasmonic Leech. Plus unlike the Endeavour, if you get all 3 consoles (from the Vizier, Archon and Regent vessels) you get to battle cloak your Assault Cruiser. Having two pieces equipped gives you a bonus to turn rate and directed energy damage. Both the Regent and Archon come with that fancy Wide Angle Quantum Torpedo Launcher that allows you to fire quantum torpedoes at a target while broadsiding if that's what your cup of tea is.

    On top of all of this, it turns better than the Endeavour, and it has one more Engineering console and one less Science console with the fleet version. There's also the additional shield and hull health.

    Other than that, that's about it.
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  • baudlbaudl Member Posts: 4,060 Arc User
    If looks are irrelevant, the endeavour is better imho...
    but if, like myself, looks are important, the archon is really good considering I'm compromising for looks.
    No seriously, the fact that you can put SSO3 on it makes it really good. If it is better than the endeavour is a big "?"
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  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    I have both Sovereigns, for collecting purposes, and they are just like any other "iconic" ship that is released in STO. They're fairly lackluster. Are they bad? No. But the T6 Tactical Odyssey is better without question.
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    Sovereigns are good for the skin.. if you're looking for performance though, they're well behind the T6 Odyssey.

    As a General rule the 'Iconic' ships from the shows and movies are usually inferior stat wise to the 'Cryptic made' ships. They bank on the iconic appeal being enough to sell the famous ships and package their own creations with the more optimal layouts. The exception here is the Romulan side where two cannon ships (Mogai and Scimitar) are two of the best ships in the game.

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  • ufpterrellufpterrell Member Posts: 736 Arc User
    I really liked the general look of the Endeavour, however the chevron is just too chunky at the back, the whole ship looks sort of squashed. A shame really because the Excelsior it "replaces" is so iconic and looks perfect. I would total dig Cryptic giving the model for the Excelsior a little work over like they have done for all the other hero ships like the Galaxy, Defiant etc etc. Same goes for the Constitution refit, now the "cats out of the bag" and we do actually have a T6 Connie I wonder how long it will be before they drop that one on us. The things I would do for a Constitution refit at higher tiers...
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    fl219 wrote: »
    How is it? I haven't got it yet. Is it worth switching from the Endeavour Class to it?

    Knowing you, you'd have problems using it.
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  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
    fl219 wrote: »
    How is it? I haven't got it yet. Is it worth switching from the Endeavour Class to it?
    I haven't flown the Endeavour Class, but in my experience of the Archon Class, no, I don't think it's worth getting... If you like the look of the Archon or Sovereign Classes, then go for it, but if you simply 'want a new ship', I'd recommend the Yorktown Class instead, as IMHO, it's better, and much more versatile in how it can be set up B)
  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    fl219 wrote: »
    How is it? I haven't got it yet. Is it worth switching from the Endeavour Class to it?

    Knowing you, you'd have problems using it.

    Yeah, this too.

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  • gabeoz1gabeoz1 Member Posts: 161 Arc User
    While the Archon can definitely tank out some dps, it's very generic when it comes to stats and the only special thing about it is the intel seating.

    It really comes down to what you're looking for. If you are looking for looks and dps output, I would said the Archon, I own the Archon and still loving it, but if you're looking for DPS output purely, I would go with endeavor.
  • zerokillcf2011zerokillcf2011 Member Posts: 545 Arc User
    gabeoz1 wrote: »
    While the Archon can definitely tank out some dps, it's very generic when it comes to stats and the only special thing about it is the intel seating.

    It really comes down to what you're looking for. If you are looking for looks and dps output, I would said the Archon, I own the Archon and still loving it, but if you're looking for DPS output purely, I would go with endeavor.

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  • fl219fl219 Member Posts: 211 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    fl219 wrote: »
    How is it? I haven't got it yet. Is it worth switching from the Endeavour Class to it?

    Knowing you, you'd have problems using it.

    Knowing you, you'd be sarcastic about it. Why don't you read the question before answering. I did not ask about "problems" with it. I asked is it "worth it" to switch.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,701 Community Moderator
    While I haven't flown the Endeavor, I feel the Archon is a pretty solid ship. I have both the Archon and Vizier, and I'm technically a veteran Sovy Captain having started back with the level up Sovy as soon as I was able to fly the Assault Cruiser.
    • Can she be better? Sure. But that is true of any ship.
    • Is she a brick? No. Couple Fleet Turn Neutroniums alone and I can make her dance. Probably could do the same with an Ody if I had one.
    • How good is the Customization? Pretty awesome. Depending on some factors she's got quite a few options for kitbashing, including the T5 Regent parts, Fleet Imperial parts, and even a Mirror skin if you got the Mirror Star Cruiser.
    • Do you need the console? Like any ship, its depending on if it will fit in with your build or not. Not using the Phase Cloak thing won't kill you, but does give a couple decent passives like all T6 ship consoles.

    The Archon is an overall decent ship with a bit of a Tactical lean for a cruiser. The lt. Commander Universal/specialist seat would kinda lean more towards Science as there is no dedicated sci station, but still affords some flexability if you want. If you've flown a Guardian, you can easily convert your Guardian build into an Archon.

    Short version: It all comes down to who's flying her and how you set her up.
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