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Klingon Research Science Vessel

omegaphallicomegaphallic Member Posts: 101 Arc User
http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10278793-science-modern-bundle-stats

Because after all the years of KDF players begging for proper Klingon one, it seems only fitting this subforum have a thread on it now that the day has arrived
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  • potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    I think it looks really cool. All the ships do.

    Sadly in this case, my KDF Science Gorn has a Krenn, Korath, Rozenko, and Paradox, so already quite good to go.

    Might just get the Fleet version and skip the C-store version. Now the Nebula is the ship my one Fed captain I play hasbeen waiting for. Using a fleet Jupiter in the mean time.

    It is a good day for the Empire none the less. Still waiting for the T6 Vor'cha or Kamarang, those are the ships that make my Klingon heart beat.
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  • tom61stotom61sto Member Posts: 3,673 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    It would be handy if they were actually buyable with Zen. Price is listed as "-" in the shipyard for what I'm guessing is the C-Store version and it doesn't let me grab it. Neither the ship or bundle appears in the C-Store proper, for any of the factions.

    The Fleet version seems buyable at 5 Fleet Ship Modules, but I'd rather get the C-Store to get much needed Science Admiralty cards for all my KDF chars.

    Hopefully, it'll actually arrive tomorrow during the sales.
  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    I'm kinda' addicted to Klingon ship designs and I really like how this one turned out. I think it looks really cool.
    I'm not even bothering discussing the fact that it finally arrived, we've been asking for this for so many years that the only thing I feel at the moment is a big sigh of relief at finally having a proper Klingon designed (I don't dislike the Gorn ships, on the contrary) cloaking science ship. I can finally play a science Klingon to the fullest and set it up thematically.
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  • admiralkogaradmiralkogar Member Posts: 875 Arc User
    I get cards for my fleet ships. I don't understand why you prefer the C-store in this case. Unless you mean ... ah, the light comes on. All your toons get the cards! Ok, so maybe I'd go for both. Lotsa grinding for that ...

    Qapla'!
  • potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    If only it could use DHC...

    But after watching some videos, really digging the ship. Could see a DBB build with Vaudwaur DBBs to look like cannon fire at least.

    Might be a fun set for my Ferasan Tact Captain.
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  • f8explorer#7814 f8explorer Member Posts: 1,328 Arc User
    Just waiting for the sales to hit for the zen and the ships to officially be released.

    I've got the Paradox but I want a true KDF ship as this new one represents. Gonna be fun.
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  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    genhauk wrote: »
    Just waiting for the sales to hit for the zen and the ships to officially be released.

    I've got the Paradox but I want a true KDF ship as this new one represents. Gonna be fun.

    Exactly! That's what I was looking for as well - a true Klingon design and a faction specific ship.
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  • geekysoldiergeekysoldier Member Posts: 156 Arc User
    I like the ship, shame it didn't come with a cloaking device. It also doesn't list the Type 4 skin as being usable after you try to customize it.
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  • tom61stotom61sto Member Posts: 3,673 Arc User
    I just got one and it doesn't have a cloaking device. It's listed as having a cloaking device in the blog about the ships here: http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10278793-science-modern-bundle-stats

    @crypticspartan#0627 @ambassadorkael#6946 What's up with this?

  • potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    No cloak, well that certainly makes me not regret just getting the Nebula.
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  • admiralkogaradmiralkogar Member Posts: 875 Arc User
    No cloak ...? NO CLOAK?! :(

    Well does it only fly in reverse too?!

    Well! I guess the Federation DO need all the help they can get!

    Well it won't matter anyway!

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  • stofskstofsk Member Posts: 1,744 Arc User
    This has to be a bug. It makes no sense for a klink science vessel to not be able to cloak.
  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    stofsk wrote: »
    This has to be a bug. It makes no sense for a klink science vessel to not be able to cloak.

    Yeah, I agree. Everyone that has the problem, please report it to the bug forum, post screenshots and tag a dev. I still haven't bought it yet, so I can't do that atm, but just as @stofsk said, I bet it's a bug - this ship is definitely supposed to cloak, the Romulan one is listed to have a battlecloak.
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  • admiralkogaradmiralkogar Member Posts: 875 Arc User
    I have the Varanus ... It looks like a Varanus. :)

    Kind of thinking why not just sell us a costume token then?

    Qapla'!
  • autumnturningautumnturning Member Posts: 743 Arc User
  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    patrickngo wrote: »
    actually, Nikeix has made a strong case for it being a design decision based on the shipyard entry and the disclaimer at the bottom of the Blog.

    Which, y'know, makes the Naj'sov the Tier Six Varanus, so if you LIKE the way the Varanus flies, you'll like the Naj'sov, and if you don't...well...hey, you know, it's not like they care.

    Yeah, but truth be told - that disclaimer is set in stone there in every single blog. You know, the corporate protectionism mumbo-jumbo and all that jazz. That has always been there, it's not unique to this blog. And as far as shipyard descriptions go....well, that entire ordeal went south of hell ever since Stahl left from the EP position. I've reported stuff numerous times, but since there is no one to read those reports I gave up. What I'm saying is - it wouldn't be the first shipyard decision sloppy written or gone berserk - check the T5 Bortasqu' ships, in the shipyard 2 different models have the exact same name and description.

    Anyway, I'm not saying that you or @nikeix are wrong - you could very well be right. I'm just giving them the benefit of the doubt that this was a mistake and not going "full TRIBBLE". Because I know only one person related to STO development that fits the description of "full TRIBBLE" and that one is not with the game anymore.
    Plus, the Nebula doesn't cloak and the Laeosa has a battlecloak. It's natural for the Naj'sov to have a cloak, otherwise the Laeosa wouldn't have one as well - if we're looking about development priorities, they don't really fancy the Romulans either.
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  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    Posting this here just so the word goes through:
    Hey folks,

    The ship is supposed to have a cloak. We're looking into the bug.
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  • nikeixnikeix Member Posts: 3,972 Arc User
    Hey folks,
    The ship is supposed to have a cloak. We're looking into the bug.

    Well that's pleasant news.

    Making people understand they have the option to change stuff between blog and launch doesn't mean I want them to exercise it :).

  • admiralkogaradmiralkogar Member Posts: 875 Arc User
    shpoks wrote: »
    Posting this here just so the word goes through:
    Hey folks,

    The ship is supposed to have a cloak. We're looking into the bug.

    Well I had decided to add it to my list for acquisition in any case, but this makes me much happier about it. :)

    Qapla'!
  • stofskstofsk Member Posts: 1,744 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    I got the pack before the new CM posted that, because as annoyed as I was about the absence of the cloak I felt it was still a good step forward for the faction to finally have a T6 science vessel and so I wanted to send the right message. I doubt the ship will be enough to entice my klingon scientist chick to step out of the Kor though. On the other hand, maybe it will. I've got a couple more klink characters, one (an orion eng) still has to finalise her endgame ship. (I'm holding out hope though she'll get a 5/1 5 tac console T6 Hegh'ta. A man can dream. A man can dream)
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited December 2016
    I get cards for my fleet ships. I don't understand why you prefer the C-store in this case. Unless you mean ... ah, the light comes on. All your toons get the cards! Ok, so maybe I'd go for both. Lotsa grinding for that ...

    Qapla'!
    If you buy the C-Store version:
    1. You get the console
    2. You get the Starship Mastery Trait
    3. You get the Admirality Card
    4. You get a discount on Fleet Modules for the Fleet Version of the ship (1 Module instead of 4).
    5. You can claim it on every character that is allowed to fly that ship on your account.

    And when you finally get the Fleet version, you get another Admirality Card.


    I think the only reason to buy the Fleet version straight is because you have no way to get sufficient Zen for the C-Store version, but you have the EC to buy Fleet Modules from the Exchange. But it seems to me there would be some way to turn that EC in Dilithium (Contraband, Master Keys in hope of VIP Mining Claims?) that you can then in turn change to Zen, too.


    Of course I am saying this as someone that just buys Zen with cash, so I never really need to use the Dilithium Exchange to get Zen, unless I feel the desire to play one of those market flippers that buys low and sells high. But I can usually not be bothered to do so.
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  • geekysoldiergeekysoldier Member Posts: 156 Arc User
    I'm glad they fixed the cloak but they kind of forgot about the Type 4 material, this one may take a while lol
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  • stofskstofsk Member Posts: 1,744 Arc User
    patrickngo wrote: »
    Just get the Kelvin if you want a 5/1 layout.
    Hundreds of millions of EC for a lockbox ship that's a single character unlock vs 3k zen for an account wide ship that all my KDF characters can pick up plus a chance at a starship trait that might be worth slotting. My preference is on the latter.
    changing the Heggie into some kind of mutant isn't really necessary. (yes, that means some of us actually don't have any problems whatsoever with the 4/2 layout.)
    Yeah but honestly it looks like a 5/1 ship.
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  • admiralkogaradmiralkogar Member Posts: 875 Arc User
    I get cards for my fleet ships. I don't understand why you prefer the C-store in this case. Unless you mean ... ah, the light comes on. All your toons get the cards! Ok, so maybe I'd go for both. Lotsa grinding for that ...

    Qapla'!
    If you buy the C-Store version:
    1. You get the console
    2. You get the Starship Mastery Trait
    3. You get the Admirality Card
    4. You get a discount on Fleet Modules for the Fleet Version of the ship (1 Module instead of 4).
    5. You can claim it on every character that is allowed to fly that ship on your account.

    And when you finally get the Fleet version, you get another Admirality Card.


    I think the only reason to buy the Fleet version straight is because you have no way to get sufficient Zen for the C-Store version, but you have the EC to buy Fleet Modules from the Exchange. But it seems to me there would be some way to turn that EC in Dilithium (Contraband, Master Keys in hope of VIP Mining Claims?) that you can then in turn change to Zen, too.


    Of course I am saying this as someone that just buys Zen with cash, so I never really need to use the Dilithium Exchange to get Zen, unless I feel the desire to play one of those market flippers that buys low and sells high. But I can usually not be bothered to do so.

    Yeah I don't use cash so I don't get into the habit of it, but I do have a lot of C-Store stuff in spite of that. I save up Fleet modules because for me the Fleet ships are the main goal, and C-Store ships are just a step in the road. My more narrow focus will always probably be about what I want for a certain character, and what the best 'empty' version of the ship is, so I look at it from an 'end goal' point of view.

    It seems we are both happy to get all the account unlocks and consoles we can. The numbers are the same, we just do the math differently I think. :)

    Qapla'!
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    I'm glad they fixed the cloak but they kind of forgot about the Type 4 material, this one may take a while lol
    I also can't apply the Fleet Material to the Fleet version. I can hover over the Fleet Material (it is in the list), but when I select it, it jumps back to my previous material.

    :(
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